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Do you do this? If so, WHY???????!!!!!!

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ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 12/10/2024 14:32

It’s my birthday. 47 years on this planet. Had the same name for all of them.

Just two cards through the post, one from each of my mum’s sisters. Both of whom came to my wedding 20 years ago, where the words Mr + Mrs Hisname never appeared, and the cheques they each kindly gave us had to be corrected because neither of us changed our names. (They noticed we hadn’t cashed them and we had to tell them we couldn’t pay them in as we had no joint account (still don’t) and so no account existed that would recognise me as Sarah Hisname.

So why, 20 years on, with a few gentle reminders on the way, are the envelopes addressed to Mrs S Hisname and Sarah Myname-Hisname?

It’s very sweet of them to send cards at all, as a text would be absolutely fine, but I’m bamboozled by why anyone would go to the effort of buying and sending a card to someone and using a name they have NEVER used?

So if you do this, WHY?!

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BoldAmberDuck · 13/10/2024 17:40

ahemfem · 12/10/2024 15:34

Because they don't give a shit. That's it really. It's very rude though

Really? Rude? Of course not. They’re sending her a card which is nice and probably forget the name situation. If you think that’s rude get over yourself!

WinterOfMyLife · 13/10/2024 17:35

pinkyredrose · 13/10/2024 11:57

Your husbands name is also his father's name.

Yes, so what difference does it make?

WinterOfMyLife · 13/10/2024 17:33

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 12/10/2024 21:21

Ah the old “men own their names but women just borrow them” shit.

It’s 2024. My name is my name. Calling me by anything other than that is a fucking insult.

Fair enough. Mine wasn’t worth the hassle.

TeatimeForTheSoul · 13/10/2024 15:22

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 12/10/2024 23:02

It's not that I think it's polite to address a woman by her husbands name, it's that, when I was growing up, it was less likely to cause offence than calling them by their pre-marriage name.

Lots of things have changed since I was growing up. Kids don’t do PE in pants and vest. Police vans aren’t called Paddywagons. Smacking kids is banned, as is smoking in public places.

Presumably you’ve learned to cope with this. How come this is worth retaining?

The difference is this is, usually, about just women having to make a change to accommodate men.

Reading through this thread I’ve wondered how those who believe addressing a card incorrectly to Mrs HisName is ok. Would you also feel addressing a card to Mr HerName is fine?

SerafinasGoose · 13/10/2024 12:26

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 13/10/2024 10:20

It would take at least 12 hours to “pop round” to each of them. Which is why they are the only ones to send cards through the post. And which makes it even more ridiculous because how is DH’s surname so memorable to them when they see him less than once a year on average but they see mine on Facebook several times a week?! And they remember to use my surname for DD!

I asked my mum to mention it last year, because each additional year it happened (the gentle reminders but the next card being addressed the same way) was affecting me. Even that hasn’t landed. Who knows if she reminded them in the run up as well this year.

They're not going to change, @ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat. This should be evident after such a long period of time. Who knows why they're doing it?; but this is a 'them' issue, not yours.

My DH repeatedly asked his mother to stop addressing me by his name rather than my own. She subsequently sent one card to my name (misspelled, but of course!) and then reverted to Mrs Hisname. DH's conclusion was that either she's not very bright or she's doing it purposely, in which case we both concluded we were better off not giving her the reaction she wanted.

Were I a pettier person, I'd have started addressing her by her former married name (my DH's family name). I could argue that she has far more claim to that name than I do, given she's actually used it and I never have. But I haven't the right sort of energy to descend to that level. It boils down to whether I consider a person worthy of my time, or I don't. If I don't, I simply step back.

Who knows what is motivating your aunts? Perhaps it's a statement that you've stepped out of line in daring to keep your own name. Perhaps it's motivated by nothing more than a stubborn conviction that they are 'right', and that others are not as well-versed in etiquette as they are. IME, 'etiquette' is quite often rude in itself and 'tradition' a blunt instrument to hammer others into doing what the traditionalist believes appropriate. I personally have no time for either.

I would never make a 'political' point of addressing friends by Ms Hername when she's chosen Mrs Hisname - why make a present of a cheap dig to someone you care about on their birthday? I suspect most recipients will know what kind of place the sender is coming from with their stubborn adherence to a name they know is not yours.

Therefore, stop pointing out their 'error'. They know. It's a pure waste of your time. If they're looking for a reaction the best one you can give them from this point onwards is silence.

pinkyredrose · 13/10/2024 11:57

WinterOfMyLife · 12/10/2024 17:03

I didn’t want to change my name. Wanted DCs to have my name as it’s rarer than DH’s. We had a massive barney over this and didn’t speak for a while. It was ridiculous. Then I thought to myself—why am I so attached to my father’s name? If I wanted to make a point I would have taken an old maternal surname, but no matter how far back I went, it would still be a man’s name imposed on a woman. So I gave up and accepted it for what it is. Just a name.
Those cards were sent with love. Try not to tie yourself in knots over a genuine mistake.

Your husbands name is also his father's name.

ahemfem · 13/10/2024 11:43

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 13/10/2024 10:20

It would take at least 12 hours to “pop round” to each of them. Which is why they are the only ones to send cards through the post. And which makes it even more ridiculous because how is DH’s surname so memorable to them when they see him less than once a year on average but they see mine on Facebook several times a week?! And they remember to use my surname for DD!

I asked my mum to mention it last year, because each additional year it happened (the gentle reminders but the next card being addressed the same way) was affecting me. Even that hasn’t landed. Who knows if she reminded them in the run up as well this year.

Oh my goodness that's even worse! They get DD's name right but not yours!

Perhaps get them an address book for Christmas with yours already pre populated? Or just send them a card and tell them not to bother sending cards any more as they can't even get your name right so it is causing more upset than good.

sammylady37 · 13/10/2024 10:28

MereDintofPandiculation · 13/10/2024 09:06

That’s one of the first things people learn about you when they meet you. Really? First name, yes. But don’t you have friends who don’t even know your surname?

Friends who don’t know my surname? No. Acquaintances, perhaps, but someone close enough to be called a friend would know my surname and I theirs.

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 13/10/2024 10:20

ahemfem · 13/10/2024 09:48

Yeah Exactly. Do they think OP is just going to cave and go actually I'll change my name to that?

OP I suggest your DP goes round and asks if they've got an address/birthday book and he can write your name down for them if they are so incapable of remembering themselves. That or make sure you get their names wrong every single time

It would take at least 12 hours to “pop round” to each of them. Which is why they are the only ones to send cards through the post. And which makes it even more ridiculous because how is DH’s surname so memorable to them when they see him less than once a year on average but they see mine on Facebook several times a week?! And they remember to use my surname for DD!

I asked my mum to mention it last year, because each additional year it happened (the gentle reminders but the next card being addressed the same way) was affecting me. Even that hasn’t landed. Who knows if she reminded them in the run up as well this year.

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ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 13/10/2024 10:13

Katypp · 13/10/2024 08:40

Rude response, don't you think?
Family harmony would dictate someone has to be the bigger person and let it lie. The OP clearly thinks that's not her and other pps are egging her on to cause a family rift over - in the grand scheme of things - complete trivia.

That’s not compromising. But you’re right. Compromise is best.

The next flowers I send will be addressed to Aunty Jack and Aunty Bob accordingly and we’ll see how they like compromising.

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ahemfem · 13/10/2024 09:48

OneDandyPoet · 13/10/2024 09:30

Yes, so this slight of hand or a lapse of concentration has been made every year, for 20 years, by 2 separate individuals? How conveniently synchronised.

Yeah Exactly. Do they think OP is just going to cave and go actually I'll change my name to that?

OP I suggest your DP goes round and asks if they've got an address/birthday book and he can write your name down for them if they are so incapable of remembering themselves. That or make sure you get their names wrong every single time

OneDandyPoet · 13/10/2024 09:30

Katypp · 13/10/2024 09:05

I've never said keeping your own name is an issue. I have kept my own name as it happens. I have no issue with women doing this, clearly.
What I do take issue with is turning this into a huge deal and assuming your choice is at the forefront of everyone's mind
My choice is my choice but I honestly can't get worked up about this. The OP and you are choosing to interpret it as some sort of grand gesture from the aunts to show their disapproval of something that incredibly commonplace.
I would choose to interpret it as a slight if hand or a lapse of concentration and nothing to make a fuss about.
But then I don't go through my lufe looking for drama where there is none.

Yes, so this slight of hand or a lapse of concentration has been made every year, for 20 years, by 2 separate individuals? How conveniently synchronised.

OllyBJolly · 13/10/2024 09:29

Works both ways in this house. DH family always address me as Mrs DH. However, my work colleagues assume DH is Mr Jolly and at dinners the seating plan will have him with my name.

No big deal.

OneDandyPoet · 13/10/2024 09:21

Yes, like her aunts who are also women, who in turn refuse to use their niece’s correct name, after knowing her entre life, and who have been continuously told, over a 20 year period, that they are using the wrong

NotSoHotMess24 · 13/10/2024 09:17

Well you're obviously absolutely fuming about it OP. Why don't you call your Auntie's up and have a massive go at them about it? You can relay everything you've said here. See if you feel better 🙄

OrdsallChord · 13/10/2024 09:09

Katypp · 13/10/2024 09:05

I've never said keeping your own name is an issue. I have kept my own name as it happens. I have no issue with women doing this, clearly.
What I do take issue with is turning this into a huge deal and assuming your choice is at the forefront of everyone's mind
My choice is my choice but I honestly can't get worked up about this. The OP and you are choosing to interpret it as some sort of grand gesture from the aunts to show their disapproval of something that incredibly commonplace.
I would choose to interpret it as a slight if hand or a lapse of concentration and nothing to make a fuss about.
But then I don't go through my lufe looking for drama where there is none.

Read the post again. I said you'd complained about women wanting to be called their own names. Which you clearly have.

And actually, you sound quite worked up. Multiple posts about how people are looking for attention, accusations of family rifts, all because someone wants to be called a name. Dare I say it, bit dramatic really.

MereDintofPandiculation · 13/10/2024 09:06

That’s one of the first things people learn about you when they meet you. Really? First name, yes. But don’t you have friends who don’t even know your surname?

Katypp · 13/10/2024 09:05

OneDandyPoet · 13/10/2024 09:03

Being responsible for and doing things for the sake of „”family harmony”, usually falls on the women in the family, often to their detriment. Keeping quiet and keeping the peace, has sometimes meant that those women have to carry the burden of putting up with some unbelievable shit because it’s „”family”.

You mean like the aunts, who are also women?

Katypp · 13/10/2024 09:05

OrdsallChord · 13/10/2024 08:43

No, rude is the multiple posts you've made on this thread with strangulated, double standard whining about why women wanting to be called their own names is a problem.

I've never said keeping your own name is an issue. I have kept my own name as it happens. I have no issue with women doing this, clearly.
What I do take issue with is turning this into a huge deal and assuming your choice is at the forefront of everyone's mind
My choice is my choice but I honestly can't get worked up about this. The OP and you are choosing to interpret it as some sort of grand gesture from the aunts to show their disapproval of something that incredibly commonplace.
I would choose to interpret it as a slight if hand or a lapse of concentration and nothing to make a fuss about.
But then I don't go through my lufe looking for drama where there is none.

OneDandyPoet · 13/10/2024 09:03

Katypp · 13/10/2024 08:40

Rude response, don't you think?
Family harmony would dictate someone has to be the bigger person and let it lie. The OP clearly thinks that's not her and other pps are egging her on to cause a family rift over - in the grand scheme of things - complete trivia.

Being responsible for and doing things for the sake of „”family harmony”, usually falls on the women in the family, often to their detriment. Keeping quiet and keeping the peace, has sometimes meant that those women have to carry the burden of putting up with some unbelievable shit because it’s „”family”.

ahemfem · 13/10/2024 08:58

If I were to call the transwoman in my office the wrong name I'd probably and rightfully be given a stern warning. But if someone called me the wrong name it would just be shrugged off because I'm expected to take it? Well I'm not having it. I've deliberately chosen my last name it should be used correctly.

OrdsallChord · 13/10/2024 08:57

OneDandyPoet · 13/10/2024 08:55

Why would she be determined to be offended? Your name is central to your identity. That’s one of the first things people learn about you when they meet you. She has every right to be upset, with her aunts arrogance, regarding this. She’s been reminding them of this for 20 years. It shows a fundamental lack of respect and acknowledgment. If the OP is genuinely upset and irritated, about this, are her feelings and thoughts not important, or are the feelings and thoughts of her aunts, more important, and OP has to just put up and shut because it’s „”family”?. No she doesn’t.

The feelings of the aunts are more important, because OP has made a decision that the poster disagrees with.

OneDandyPoet · 13/10/2024 08:55

Katypp · 13/10/2024 08:30

I agree with this. The OP is on a mission to make her point and is determined to be offended.
Can people not compromise these days and just move on in the interest of family harmony? Why do people seem to think they are the front middle and centre of everyone else's world and their every whim must be remembered and attended to?
Yes it's the op's name, yes it's important to her but she has chosen to not follow the usual pattern after marriage - which is becoming more usual, I realise this - but her choice really isn't important to anyone else and her aunts have probably gone onto automatic pilot when sending the cards.
The idea that going to the bother of sending a card but addressing it incorrectly is considered rude but RETURNING IT UNOPENED is perfectly OK showscme that some on this thread lost a grip on common sense in the pursuit of making their point.

Why would she be determined to be offended? Your name is central to your identity. That’s one of the first things people learn about you when they meet you. She has every right to be upset, with her aunts arrogance, regarding this. She’s been reminding them of this for 20 years. It shows a fundamental lack of respect and acknowledgment. If the OP is genuinely upset and irritated, about this, are her feelings and thoughts not important, or are the feelings and thoughts of her aunts, more important, and OP has to just put up and shut because it’s „”family”?. No she doesn’t.

ahemfem · 13/10/2024 08:52

Katypp · 12/10/2024 17:55

You see, I read it as someone who thinks they are making some grand feminist point and want to draw attention to it. Change your name or don't change your name - it's no big deal, no-one but you is bothered and the constant need to point it out is attention-seeking.

They only point it out when people are rude enough not to get it right

ahemfem · 13/10/2024 08:51

Katypp · 13/10/2024 08:30

I agree with this. The OP is on a mission to make her point and is determined to be offended.
Can people not compromise these days and just move on in the interest of family harmony? Why do people seem to think they are the front middle and centre of everyone else's world and their every whim must be remembered and attended to?
Yes it's the op's name, yes it's important to her but she has chosen to not follow the usual pattern after marriage - which is becoming more usual, I realise this - but her choice really isn't important to anyone else and her aunts have probably gone onto automatic pilot when sending the cards.
The idea that going to the bother of sending a card but addressing it incorrectly is considered rude but RETURNING IT UNOPENED is perfectly OK showscme that some on this thread lost a grip on common sense in the pursuit of making their point.

It's really offensive though. If she'd changed gender and changed her name it wouldn't be acceptable so I don't see why this is seen as unimportant.

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