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Do you do this? If so, WHY???????!!!!!!

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ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 12/10/2024 14:32

It’s my birthday. 47 years on this planet. Had the same name for all of them.

Just two cards through the post, one from each of my mum’s sisters. Both of whom came to my wedding 20 years ago, where the words Mr + Mrs Hisname never appeared, and the cheques they each kindly gave us had to be corrected because neither of us changed our names. (They noticed we hadn’t cashed them and we had to tell them we couldn’t pay them in as we had no joint account (still don’t) and so no account existed that would recognise me as Sarah Hisname.

So why, 20 years on, with a few gentle reminders on the way, are the envelopes addressed to Mrs S Hisname and Sarah Myname-Hisname?

It’s very sweet of them to send cards at all, as a text would be absolutely fine, but I’m bamboozled by why anyone would go to the effort of buying and sending a card to someone and using a name they have NEVER used?

So if you do this, WHY?!

OP posts:
aoeoew · 12/10/2024 16:57

Cannot believe some of the responses. It is a big deal. It's as bad as being called Sarah and having aunts continuously refer to you as George. It's rude and after all of these years clearly intentional.

LadyMacbethWasMisunderstood · 12/10/2024 16:56

I did not charge my name upon marriage 28 years ago. It does not bother me one bit that a few people (mostly older than I but one contemporary) call me Mrs HisName. They are not making a point or being unkind. They just forget. I do not care at all. I think you are overly sensitive. Unless you think they are doing it deliberately to upset you.

AspirationalTallskinnylatte · 12/10/2024 16:55

That's with a to Mrs His first name his second name though

TalkSomeSense1 · 12/10/2024 16:55

Itsmahoneybaloney · 12/10/2024 15:20

Get over yourself

Being someone this has happened to - from a parent and aunt no less - I’d suggest you ‘get over yourself’. What the bloody hell is the point of coming on here, reading the op and then bothering to type that?

OP - I hear you and I’ve had the conversation with my parents about how I’m still NotHisName. And yet they take no a blind bit of notice and still send birthday cards addressed to Mrs HisName. Gives me the rage! So I started sending birthday cards to my mum addressed Miss MaidenName. Petty but gives me a shred of joy 😂

Ednoreilojal · 12/10/2024 16:55

MereDintofPandiculation · 12/10/2024 16:17

Because, although you are my niece, you are only one of 4 nieces and 35 cousins once-removed, cousins twice removed, second cousins, third co9usins, and I can't remember how you all style yourselves, especially as in every day life I know you only as "ThatIsNotMyName" and not by your surname, so when I have to address an envelope, well, I can't just put your first name one, and for my generation, calling someone wrongly by their own surname is more likely to upset someone than calling them (wrongly) by their husband's name

You can actually write just a first name on an envelope. Nobody will actually arrest you. In fact there's no requirement to write anything except the house number and postcode on an envelope. On the rare occasion I send something to a friend in the post I literally just put their first name, or Firstname surname (their own one!) Never Mrs/Ms/Miss. The whole concept of titles is archaic and should be done away with in a society when almost everyone uses first names in almost every situation.

AspirationalTallskinnylatte · 12/10/2024 16:54

My FIL does this and I've always assumed he was trolling me

DressOrSkirt · 12/10/2024 16:54

It's pretty 50/50 with my peers who have and haven't changed their names so it's hard to remember. I don't see the big deal as long as the post gets to you.

mathanxiety · 12/10/2024 16:54

ThatIsNotMyNameSoWhyAreYouCallingMeThat · 12/10/2024 15:44

They’re in their 50s. The youngest is 8 years older than me.

That makes it a lot more puzzling.

I'm in my 50s, and I'd say at least half the women I know kept their own family names when they married and the rest make sure not to get names wrong.

DietrichandDiMaggio · 12/10/2024 16:52

MereDintofPandiculation · 12/10/2024 16:17

Because, although you are my niece, you are only one of 4 nieces and 35 cousins once-removed, cousins twice removed, second cousins, third co9usins, and I can't remember how you all style yourselves, especially as in every day life I know you only as "ThatIsNotMyName" and not by your surname, so when I have to address an envelope, well, I can't just put your first name one, and for my generation, calling someone wrongly by their own surname is more likely to upset someone than calling them (wrongly) by their husband's name

Even if a woman has married and changed her name, if you can't remember what her husbands name is then you could address the card to her original name. I think that is less offensive than addressing someone by a name that they have never had, especially if they have had the same name since birth.

BunnyLake · 12/10/2024 16:49

OneDandyPoet · 12/10/2024 16:11

Because they have known OP since the day she was born, and they have been told numerous times, by the OP that that is not her name. Just utterly arrogant. If your name was Amanda but I kept calling you Felicity, even after you’ve told me many times not to, because that’s not your name, would this not upset you?

Yes but why are they being so arrogant about it (was my question).

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/10/2024 16:47

SnapdragonToadflax · 12/10/2024 16:44

We're not even married and I get Mrs Hisname off my partner's sister. Utterly bizarre.

And yes, I am an 'ultra mad feminist' 😂 Any woman who isn't is an idiot.

Preach!

SnapdragonToadflax · 12/10/2024 16:44

We're not even married and I get Mrs Hisname off my partner's sister. Utterly bizarre.

And yes, I am an 'ultra mad feminist' 😂 Any woman who isn't is an idiot.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/10/2024 16:44

ScrollingLeaves · 12/10/2024 16:40

That etiquette existed until quite recently. Definitely in the ‘50s 60s 70s and actually even up to this century if not beyond.

It is probably still the correct form
in the U.K. even if someone’s maiden/own name is also now equally correct, according to choice.

I agree though that ideally OP’s aunts should remember her preference.

I can’t find an U.K. etiquette guide on line, but here is the well-known US one still including Mrs Hisname Hissurname as well as the choice for the woman using her own name.

(From Emily Post)

Addressing a Woman

Maiden name
Ms. Jane Johnson
Miss Jane Johnson*
*Usually ‘Miss’ is for girls under 18

Married, keeping maiden name
Ms. Jane Johnson

Married, uses husband’s name socially
Mrs. John Kelly
Mrs. Jane Kelly*
*Nowadays this is acceptable
Ms. Jane Kelly

Separated, not divorced
Mrs. John Kelly
Mrs. Jane Kelly
Ms. Jane Kelly

Divorced
Mrs. Jane Kelly
Ms. Jane Kelly
Ms. Jane Johnson (maiden name)

Widowed
Mrs. John Kelly*
*If you don’t know the widow’s preference, this is the traditional and preferred form
Mrs. Jane Kelly
Ms. Jane Kelly

I shouldn’t think the Palace would address Victoria Starmer as Ms Victoria X. if they were to send her an invitation as an individual.

I'm not sure that etiquette from a time when women always changed their names on marriage and had no real choice in the matter is all that relevant.

We live in an era where if someone asks you to use opposite sex pronouns for them and you continue to use the pronouns associated with their biological sex that can be considered harassment. So how can it be proper etiquette to address someone by a name you know isn't their name, because you feel they should have changed it?

Skyrainlight · 12/10/2024 16:43

Agreed. I've been married for over 20 years too and Mrs His Name has never existed. I've also had to send cheques back because I can't deposit them. It's just rude to call someone by a name they have never been.

OrdsallChord · 12/10/2024 16:43

RosesAndHellebores · 12/10/2024 16:31

Was it deliberate rudeness to remember the birthday and send a card too? Especially when nobody else bothered as the op only got two cards.

A gracious thank you is all that's required.

Edited

I'm always impressed at the lack of self awareness whenever you, of all people, downplay anyone being unhappy about how they're addressed.

OhAThreebe · 12/10/2024 16:42

This happens to me too. I don't really care. Why would I?

I've even had relatives refer to me by my (imaginary) married name in official documents. It's fine, I just flash my marriage certificate, if needed. Job done.

OneDandyPoet · 12/10/2024 16:40

CasaBianca · 12/10/2024 16:14

Get over yourself, honestly. They care enough about you to send you a card, they have old fashioned views but why choose to make it a big deal? Just say thank you and move on.

Just because something is old fashioned doesn’t mean it can’t be challenged or criticised, especially as this clearly upsets the OP?

ScrollingLeaves · 12/10/2024 16:40

That etiquette existed until quite recently. Definitely in the ‘50s 60s 70s and actually even up to this century if not beyond.

It is probably still the correct form
in the U.K. even if someone’s maiden/own name is also now equally correct, according to choice.

I agree though that ideally OP’s aunts should remember her preference.

I can’t find an U.K. etiquette guide on line, but here is the well-known US one still including Mrs Hisname Hissurname as well as the choice for the woman using her own name.

(From Emily Post)

Addressing a Woman

Maiden name
Ms. Jane Johnson
Miss Jane Johnson*
*Usually ‘Miss’ is for girls under 18

Married, keeping maiden name
Ms. Jane Johnson

Married, uses husband’s name socially
Mrs. John Kelly
Mrs. Jane Kelly*
*Nowadays this is acceptable
Ms. Jane Kelly

Separated, not divorced
Mrs. John Kelly
Mrs. Jane Kelly
Ms. Jane Kelly

Divorced
Mrs. Jane Kelly
Ms. Jane Kelly
Ms. Jane Johnson (maiden name)

Widowed
Mrs. John Kelly*
*If you don’t know the widow’s preference, this is the traditional and preferred form
Mrs. Jane Kelly
Ms. Jane Kelly

I shouldn’t think the Palace would address Victoria Starmer as Ms Victoria X. if they were to send her an invitation as an individual.

PurpleChrayn · 12/10/2024 16:39

It's infuriating.

We are Mr DH and Dr P Chrayn.

I didn't slog away for a decade in academia to have my identity swallowed up in DH's.

NotSoHotMess24 · 12/10/2024 16:37

I get this, despite having never been married to my partner (or anyone else). From his relatives, who are in their 30s. I always assumed it's because they can't remember my name. Fair play, I can't remember theirs either, and am terrible generally with names both first and last! There's no malice in it.

RosesAndHellebores · 12/10/2024 16:36

I still wonder if Mrs Jane Smith is divorced when I see it.

DIL took DS's name but calls herself Mrs Susie surname. It seems odd to me but is today's way so I nod and smile and respect it.

scarboroughcaravan · 12/10/2024 16:36

I can see why you find this irritating. My in-laws have done the same for the past 30 years. It bothered me at first as it seemed they were making the point that I should have (in their view) changed my name. I mentioned it to them at first, but just ignore it nowadays.

OhMyGodAChicken · 12/10/2024 16:35

Fucking hell, the ageism on this thread. These aren’t doddery old lady stereotypes, incapable of changing their ways; they’re perfectly with-it women in their middle age who are being rude and a bit twattish.

MrRobinsonsQuango · 12/10/2024 16:35

Stupidity and / or laziness. It’s not your name

SouthLondonMum22 · 12/10/2024 16:33

DalRiata · 12/10/2024 16:26

Wouldn't bother me. You sound like you have a chip on your shoulder about being someone's wife. Quite odd tbh. It's only your husbands surname, not some derogatory slur.

It isn’t her name. That’s the point.

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