Cheshire Police are an incompetent bunch of useless bastards

https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/08/30/the-case-against-lucy-letby/

Evans didn’t even examine the bodies / carry out the autopsies himself - his loudly declared ‘certainty’ came from reading notes and observations recorded by others (who hadn’t reached the conclusion he had).

Evans' certainty came from his belief that "babies don't just die".

The unit was chaotic, filthy, and should have been downgraded to level one (the least sick babies) long before the management team eventually took that action, having finally been left no alternative.

Care was substandard and the babies she was convicted of killing were not flagged as having died ‘suspiciously’ until Dr Evans got involved. Multiple highly experienced and senior consultants, pathologists and coroners all ‘missed’ the signs that Dr Evans declared were “obvious” (to him).

Evans didn’t even examine the bodies / carry out the autopsies himself - his loudly declared ‘certainty’ came from reading notes and observations recorded by others (who hadn’t reached the conclusion he had).

No I fully believe white blond haired women can kill. - just look at another murder case this week. She's blond, white and female 🙄

The statistical evidence is exactly what is being called into question! It's far far from being conclusive.

There is not forensic evidence linking her to any of the cases.

There's no proof that at least one of the supposed murder methods would actually kill.

Nobody witnessed her actually provably doing anything wrong. Despite numerous other people being present.

Oh and actually death rates across both maternity care and neonatal care were both high during that period.

More babies died that could not be pinned in anyway back to Letby so we're not included in the trial.

The 'evidence' has been used to fit the verdict not the evidence proving the verdict. The doctors handed the police their suspect and they have used the information they could to support that narrative.

I am in no way saying she is definitely innocent! She may well be guilty. But as this stands this is a very unsafe conviction.

The statistical evidence alone is incontestable.

Honestly, it’s really not. That’s why the Royal Statistical Society have expressed concerns.

Some people just refuse to believe a pretty lady could be bad

She did it.

The statistical evidence alone is incontestable.

If it were failings within the nhs then all the nurses who worked on her ward and shared her conditions would also have higher than national average death rates.

There are so many worth causes you could throw your energy behind better funding of nhs, financing investment in environmentally sustainable technologies, human rights abuses within our police and court system/cafcass

Stop wasting your energy on that sick fuck just because she’s too angelic (ie blonde and pretty) to be a murderer

She did it and she knew what she was doing

This calls into question the evidence though. The x-ray allegedly showed proof of air in the baby's system - the questionable idea of air administered through an NG tube causing "splinting". As this was in a period when she hadn't met the child, the opinion was revised to fit the new facts. So it shows a flaw in the theory as she could not have caused this as she was not there.

This severely undermines the proposed mechanism of death and therefore whether similar findings can be attributed to her in other cases.

The issue of being with the baby when it collapsed (and alleged "desperation" to be which might indicate concerns about him rather than murderous intent depending on interpretation) comes across as desperation to pin another case on her. It's the "she must have done something" attitude that has permeated this case from the beginning.

I have seen speculation that she was sneaking onto the ward in her downtime to harm infants. Without evidence to support that, it shouldn't be a consideration. If she was so desperate to be there, all the time, feeding the "compulsion" to kill (for which there is zero in the way of forensic psychological evidence - indeed no psychological evaluation was provided at trial on either side, so if it was done at all, it cannot have supported either side) then having a nice holiday abroad must have been torture for her. Of course you may say "but as soon as she got near that baby it died" but given the prematurity and fragility of that particular baby who had issues before her return, there is a strong case for unfortunate coincidence here.

From the telegraph articles and the bbc articles about baby c it seems she was on shift the day he died and was desperate to be in his room and was stood over his cot when he collapsed. See wasn't in work when the X-rays of baby c used in the evidence were taken.

The usual rate is pretty high, especially in neonatal units.

In NICUs, ME [medication error] rates ranged from 4 to 35.1 per 1000 patient-days and from 5.5 to 77.9 per 100 medication orders

https://research.manchester.ac.uk/en/studentTheses/medication-safety-in-neonatal-and-childrens-intensive-care

Don't read the following overview for England if you suffer from health anxiety

https://bmjgroup.com/237-million-medication-errors-made-every-year-in-england/

Obviously Letby's hospital took this seriously, but there's no sense that it was an astonishing or incomprehensible event.

Oh don't worry just accessed a telegraph article on archive ph

Sorry your message was supposed to be in bold but it did t work for some reason.

@GossIsAGit

Genius enough to kill her first victim in full view of at least three people, and then Baby C when she wasn’t even in the hospital that day.

Have you got a link for her not being in the hospital that day?

Cheshire police have always been shite

No one ever thought she was a genius? Attacking two of the triplets and another baby within just days of returning from Ibiza wasn't smart. But then she couldn't control her compulsions.

The astonishing fact that someone could go from ‘not competent to administer controlled drugs’ to often being the most senior nurse on the unit within as little as 2 years really does say something about how short of experienced staff that setting was. Regardless of whether there were serial killers about would you really want your very vulnerable baby to be cared for somewhere like that?

There’s a very good chance she didn’t have the competence required to cope in an understaffed, chaotic unit with a shortage of experienced staff when she was only a year into the job. You would really need to know the usual rate of misdrugging under those circumstances.

I've often pondered if it was that she was grossly incompetent in a unit that was totally chaotic.

What is the 'usual' rate of mis-drugging? We need that to put LL's incidents in perspective.

Two nurses are required to administer controlled drugs. Presumably the other nurse involved should now be under suspicion.