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MIL for Xmas

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NavigatingAdulthood · 12/10/2024 09:09

This is following on from a previous post of mine where my partners family have found out my FIL was having an affair and the family is now completely split.

This year, it’s my 5mo First Christmas (yes he’ll be 7mo and may not remember it well) and it’s the first Christmas in our new house.

My partner has never liked Christmas. He often chose to spend lunch time alone with the dog and worked whilst I went to my parents before he came over there in the afternoon to socialise. After spending the afternoon at my parents house, we would then go to his parents house for the evening.

Obviously this year is now up in the air due to his parents situations. Prior to the affair, my partner made a big ‘song and dance’ about celebrating Christmas with the two of us, and our son, at our home. He wanted us to have lunch at our own house and then go about visiting people. I feel a bit upset by this as the idea of not keeping up with my families tradition is a big change for me — however, I understand it and agreed to celebrate it as a new family in our home.

Yesterday, whilst my MIL was over the house, I found out that my partner had invited her over for Christmas. Without asking or even telling me. His reason being he doesn’t want her to be alone but he also has a Brother who will be home and a Sister who has a big family.

For some reason, I feel hurt by the fact he’s invited her over without telling me. I feel like I can’t challenge it, the same way he challenged me when I mentioned about going to my parents. I haven’t spoken about it to him yet but I don’t know how to approach it. My partner has ALWAYS done everything for his Mum but I want his siblings to step up so that I can celebrate my babies first Christmas with the original plan. AIBU to think that? How do I even approach that conversation?

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TheShellBeach · 12/10/2024 12:11

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 12/10/2024 09:13

Sorry, i voted yabu by mistake!
You are not.
He should have discussed this with you, particularly as you are trying to start your own family tradition.
I would just take my baby to my parents for the day and let him cook for and entertain his mother.

You also quoted the entire OP despite being the first responder.

oakleaffy · 12/10/2024 12:11

thepariscrimefiles · 12/10/2024 12:09

OP has said that her DP did everything for his mother even before her husband left her. She's early 50s, hasn't worked for over 10 years and can't use the internet. This learned helplessness obviously pre-dated the shock of being left by her husband.

OP has said that she doesn't get up until 2.00 pm and does no housework. When OP was heavily pregnant, she made OP cut her (MIL's) toenails. Some of this behaviour may be the result of being floored emotionally but not all of it is.

I just read OP's other posts...and replied to her {crosspost!}

Yes...this MIL is deffo lazy!

oakleaffy · 12/10/2024 12:10

NavigatingAdulthood · 12/10/2024 10:04

We always do everything for her. We make sure she is looked after all the time. This isn’t about whether we look after her. We just always do everything and I’m honest enough to say I want to be selfish for once. It’s the fact I have to plan my days around what my partner is doing for her every day or when he’s seeing her each day that has created this negative view. Absolutely nothing wrong with being there for family but even whilst she was surrounded by her then husband, her son and her other daughter in law (who all lived in the same house) we still went out of our way to do everything and she began to expect it. She even got used to me doing her toenails after I did it once and even asked me to do them whilst heavily pregnant; so..

Oh @NavigatingAdulthood - I do owe you an apology!
I'd only read your first post.

I'd assumed a woman {Your MIL} living on her own, entirely, seeing you maybe every couple of weeks.

I didn't realise she was this dependent - I can see that this could get annoying.

Sounds like your MIL is lazy.

I was initially sympathetic, imagining a woman on her first Christmas alone {which can be tough!} after a break up.

I do know men who are lovely to their mums, but they only see them every couple of weeks.

thepariscrimefiles · 12/10/2024 12:09

oakleaffy · 12/10/2024 11:49

She's been abandoned by her faithless husband, and her first Christmas alone may seem hard for her to bear.

It doesn't mean she's ''Useless''...Just look at the threads on here where women are left by their husbands - They are floored emotionally.

OP has said that her DP did everything for his mother even before her husband left her. She's early 50s, hasn't worked for over 10 years and can't use the internet. This learned helplessness obviously pre-dated the shock of being left by her husband.

OP has said that she doesn't get up until 2.00 pm and does no housework. When OP was heavily pregnant, she made OP cut her (MIL's) toenails. Some of this behaviour may be the result of being floored emotionally but not all of it is.

LetsSeeHowFarWeveCome · 12/10/2024 12:08

I also think you need to have a long hard clear -eyed look at his mother and his relationship with her.

She's only in her 50s and acting like she's in her 80s ... and he's catering to this shit.

It will only get worse.

LetsSeeHowFarWeveCome · 12/10/2024 12:07

NavigatingAdulthood · 12/10/2024 10:29

No, I 100% know that he is the person at fault. I just know he’s having a hard time with everything but I don’t want to seem like an utter bitch. I’ll approach him and have that conversation with him. I just want to get across my points without feeling like I’m being horrible towards his MIL.

You're being too nice and this is why he has been able to lie to you and walk all over you with his behaviour.

Who cares what if he thinks you're being a bitch about this. Seriously. His opinion is irrelevant at this point.

Grow a backbone and stand up for yourself. Think long and hard if he's actually a positive in your life or if it's all about him and what he wants. I suspect it is.

flyingmice · 12/10/2024 12:06

Looblou72 · 12/10/2024 12:02

He was trying to be nice to his Mum! If you have sons it's important to remember that you too will be a MIL one day, treat her now as you wish to be treated in the future.

It’s also important to read OP’s posts before replying.

Looblou72 · 12/10/2024 12:02

He was trying to be nice to his Mum! If you have sons it's important to remember that you too will be a MIL one day, treat her now as you wish to be treated in the future.

oakleaffy · 12/10/2024 11:59

StMarieforme · 12/10/2024 11:53

He should have consulted you but bloody hell! He's trying to support his devastated mother and you're the one that's hurt?

Would you leave your mother all alone at Christmas following a traumatic year?

Would you want your DC to do it to you one day?

It's his mother fgs.

Remember this is Mumsnet.

It's normal to make an enemy of your Mother in Law, and to detest a son who is decent to his mother, and call him ''enmeshed''.

The only way is to go ''No Contact'' - again, only on Mumsnet do I hear this term.

Yet- people who have baby sons forget that they too will one day be mothers in law.

Therein lies the irony.

UncharteredWaters · 12/10/2024 11:59

I’d take the attitude that I’m going to my parents regardless.
‘Dp why does your mum think baby and I will be here Xmas day?’
’well obviously since you decided you didn’t want your first choice new tradition anymore I’ll be going to my first choice - my parents?’

rainbowstardrops · 12/10/2024 11:54

I'd be bloody fuming if my partner announced he'd invited his (extremely dependent) mother for Christmas Day when you'd already agreed to have a quiet one with your baby but I never understand why people don't air their views there and then!
I'd have had the conversation right then, not stew on it and wonder how I should bring the problem up!
Maybe I'm a bitch but the lack of communication that I read on MN absolutely baffles me.

StMarieforme · 12/10/2024 11:53

He should have consulted you but bloody hell! He's trying to support his devastated mother and you're the one that's hurt?

Would you leave your mother all alone at Christmas following a traumatic year?

Would you want your DC to do it to you one day?

It's his mother fgs.

thepariscrimefiles · 12/10/2024 11:51

MrBojangles1983 · 12/10/2024 10:57

You are being unreasonable… 100%

He doesn’t want his mom alone at Christmas and you are trying to find every excuse under the sun to justify your opinion!

He should of asked but he didn’t- so say you could of asked but that is fine

She doesn't need to find an excuse. Her MIL is a needy pain in the arse in her early 50s who cannot do anything for herself.

Littys · 12/10/2024 11:50

OP, you are so young.
You have had a baby so young.
His mother is 50?
Which is also her absolute prime.
Yet she is deliberately completely helpless.
Please, please think long and hard about what your future may be with a partner who has such a deeply unhealthy enmeshment with his mother.
There will now be 3 of you in this relationship and you are going to be the odd one out.
Not his mother, as she clearly comes first.
Bullet proof your contraception because I think you are going to find the future very difficult, parenting alone while you work, and he works and runs after his mothers every need.

Keep your family close to you, I have no doubt you are going to need them.

oakleaffy · 12/10/2024 11:49

thepariscrimefiles · 12/10/2024 11:46

It is a DP problem but the fact that her MIL is completely helpless in her 50s is a massive contributory factor.

She's been abandoned by her faithless husband, and her first Christmas alone may seem hard for her to bear.

It doesn't mean she's ''Useless''...Just look at the threads on here where women are left by their husbands - They are floored emotionally.

oakleaffy · 12/10/2024 11:46

NewIdeasToday · 12/10/2024 09:14

It’s a shame he didn’t discuss it with you first. But it sounds like he’s trying to do a thoughtful thing for his mum who’s life has been changed so unexpectedly.

Your baby won’t remember a thing about this Christmas anyway. So I’d make the most of the day with his mum as well and make her feel welcome.

Baby will have a lovely time anyway, and the poor mum has been left, so it will feel very tough on her first Christmas alone.

{Subsequent ones aren't as bad}

Your husband should have asked first, but some adult sons are close to their mums, like it or not.

Extended families are always a bit of a juggle.

thepariscrimefiles · 12/10/2024 11:46

arethereanyleftatall · 12/10/2024 10:26

You're ignoring the 50% of posters who are telling you loud and clear what the actual problem is.

It's not the MIL.

It's the fact that HE has invited someone so that he gets the praise for it, but expects YOU to do all the work.

That is beyond shocking.

If you can't quite grasp how shocking it is, reverse it - would you ever invite your friend over, expect him to do all the cooking, and then would he be worried about your feelings in telling you no?

No he wouldn't. You are too nice. Too kind. And he exploits that.

He's so used to it now that he exploits it totally subconsciously, it's ingrained in the two of you, that he will do precisely what he wants and you will pedal furiously in the background to make it happen.

Say no.

Ironically - saying no now, you can do it politely, will actually SAVE your relationship long term.

It is a DP problem but the fact that her MIL is completely helpless in her 50s is a massive contributory factor.

WildFlowerBees · 12/10/2024 11:41

I'd be saying that as he's changed his mind about starting our own family tradition this year and it's lovely he's invited his mum you'll be spending Christmas with your parents. Given he didn't speak with you before inviting her it shouldn't be an issue that you have taken the independent decision to take you and your baby to your folks for the day.

See your MIL in the evening before she goes home. Don't let it turn into a war it's Christmas, yes it's crap when your plans are upended but he's not going to un invite her so now you make plans that suit you and make you happy. It's your Christmas too.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 12/10/2024 11:39

And how does someone in their 50’s not know how to use a computer and live life independently? She’s not old. You’d have possibly another 40+ years of this 🤮

Codlingmoths · 12/10/2024 11:39

NavigatingAdulthood · 12/10/2024 11:23

So he is my partner, not husband, and we’ve been together 6 years.

Our relationship has always been quite positive. I’ve understood him helping his Mum from time to time and I've never ever stopped him from doing so. I’ve never stopped her from being involved with my DS, seeing him or whichever. I made rules very early on about smoking, visiting etc. It’s not my fault she got ‘butt hurt’ because I got the final say.

For those referencing his work, he works for an international company as well as himself. I’ve never had a problem with it, and I don’t so no need to worry about that.

We live in a rented house (sorry boomers) because we couldn’t get a mortgage for our own personal reasons.

Anyone who works in the NHS knows that it is a fight to try and get Christmas off. This year, as I’m on Mat Leave - I don’t have the stress of trying to do so. So whilst ‘babies are portable’ and ‘babies don’t remember’ - this is a crucial experience for me.

I KNOW my partner has made the issue. Yes, it makes me somewhat selfish. However, I don’t want anyone to be left hurt or upset because I know how I would feel. However, am I wrong to try and put myself first for once?

Op, if in your relationship no one else is respecting you and looking after you, then you have to look after and prioritise yourself. That’s not being selfish, that’s just being fair. He looks after himself and his priorities and doesn’t bother about his family or yours.
As well as now making sure you look after yourself is being a good mum, since I bet you do everything for the baby so it’s in the baby’s best interest that you’re happy and not stressed tired and angrily resentful. Go to your parents and have a lovely Christmas.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 12/10/2024 11:38

I’d be off to my parents. Leave him to it. He can arrange stuff without discussion then so can you. I’d be reconsidering my future as well-I’d this really what you want your life to look like? Enmeshed with a Mama’s boy who always puts you at the bottom of the list?

flyingmice · 12/10/2024 11:37

For clarity, she’s not disabled. She hasn’t worked in 10 years. Can’t use the internet (chooses not to learn) and doesn’t order her own prescriptions, book her own doctors appointments, attend them herself, pay for anything and just hopes that someone will pay for stuff like shopping, tobacco etc. She sleeps in until 2pm every day, she doesn’t do any housework etc

She may not be disabled but she is not normal. This is not normal. I’d actually call this being disabled because she can’t live a normal life in the society. You are making it so much worse by doing everything. So much worse. She is lazy and you are enabling it. Imagine being 50 and not use the internet. This is serious OP. I’d actually move away. This is not a life you want to have, being a fucking unpaid carer 24/7 for a lazy 50-year old.

thepariscrimefiles · 12/10/2024 11:37

Indianajet · 12/10/2024 10:01

I obviously missed the bit about staying in bed till 3p.m. - no I am generally up by 6.30 a.m. Our family look after each other, and it just makes me sad that others don't seem to want to.
No, I don't 'freeload' but I do accept offers to take me shopping occasionally, or to doctors appointments as I don't drive and have mobility problems. I also help out with childcare - as I say, our family look after each other.

The help seems very one way in OP's family. It makes sense in families where help is reciprocal but OP's MIL just sounds lazy and completely helpless.

Crumpleton · 12/10/2024 11:37

However, I don’t want anyone to be left hurt or upset because I know how I would feel. However, am I wrong to try and put myself first for once?

But in a way you are the one that's hurt and upset and are definitely not wrong in wanting to put yourself first.

You're both still very young...
Coming from someone that's been with their DH since I was 17, now in our 60's you've really got to set your boundaries with his DM...
It was more my family that we did everything for...and it took me years of being put upon before I finally said no more...

I'm not saying that's the way you need to go or he has to stop helping his DM all together but you really do need to sit your DP down and have a conversation about how he needs to start putting you and his DC first.

NavigatingAdulthood · 12/10/2024 11:35

It’s crazy how I posted about a specific situation but people are choosing the slate the way we parent. My partner steps up when I need him to and does to some of the stuff around the house but he also works and I’m not going to dwell on the ideology that he shouldn’t continue his life. I don’t think we need to drag on about that tbh. Thanks anyway though. Also, to the person who commented about “choosing to have a baby with someone like that” I don’t really think that’s even relevant but thank you for the input.

I’ll chat with my partner. I’m sure we’ll come to an agreement and thank you to everyone who’s given sound advice, I appreciate it :)

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