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MIL for Xmas

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NavigatingAdulthood · 12/10/2024 09:09

This is following on from a previous post of mine where my partners family have found out my FIL was having an affair and the family is now completely split.

This year, it’s my 5mo First Christmas (yes he’ll be 7mo and may not remember it well) and it’s the first Christmas in our new house.

My partner has never liked Christmas. He often chose to spend lunch time alone with the dog and worked whilst I went to my parents before he came over there in the afternoon to socialise. After spending the afternoon at my parents house, we would then go to his parents house for the evening.

Obviously this year is now up in the air due to his parents situations. Prior to the affair, my partner made a big ‘song and dance’ about celebrating Christmas with the two of us, and our son, at our home. He wanted us to have lunch at our own house and then go about visiting people. I feel a bit upset by this as the idea of not keeping up with my families tradition is a big change for me — however, I understand it and agreed to celebrate it as a new family in our home.

Yesterday, whilst my MIL was over the house, I found out that my partner had invited her over for Christmas. Without asking or even telling me. His reason being he doesn’t want her to be alone but he also has a Brother who will be home and a Sister who has a big family.

For some reason, I feel hurt by the fact he’s invited her over without telling me. I feel like I can’t challenge it, the same way he challenged me when I mentioned about going to my parents. I haven’t spoken about it to him yet but I don’t know how to approach it. My partner has ALWAYS done everything for his Mum but I want his siblings to step up so that I can celebrate my babies first Christmas with the original plan. AIBU to think that? How do I even approach that conversation?

OP posts:
Turnups · 12/10/2024 13:10

He should have consulted you first. But you should be pleased to have a husband who is a kind and loving son to his mother who has had a terribly upsetting year. YABU - Christmas is a time for families, extended families not just nuclear families, and your baby won’t know what’s going on and will never remember it anyway.

Littys · 12/10/2024 13:00

Well done for speaking up OP.
Having her for Christmas really isn't the issue.
The issue is you not being consulted.
It is basic manners to consult with your partner about these things.
The greater issue going forward will be her completely un-normal helplessness.

Speak to your partner about this.
She is a middle aged woman that needs to be able to care for herself.

Support her with kindness absolutely.

Allowing her to behave like a frail infirm geriatric incapable of her most basic self care? Absolutely not.

LushLemonTart · 12/10/2024 12:59

Good update.

She really needs some life skills though.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 12/10/2024 12:58

Stormyweatheroutthere · 12/10/2024 09:17

Tell him it's great he is hosting his dm this year and what is he cooking? Because you will be sat enjoying your dc's first Christmas...

This!

As long as he knows this is the expectation I can understand him wanting to have his Mum there, and not sitting alone.

He should have consulted you first though!

Gymnopedie · 12/10/2024 12:57

NavigatingAdulthood · 12/10/2024 12:24

Okay, so an update! I’ve had the convo with him this morning.

He understood. I can tell he’s a bit hurt but he respects that he’s gone against the initial plan that he made. He said he would speak with his siblings to arrange something for her. Then we agreed we would see her at some point in the day. I explained I was not trying to be horrible and inconsiderate and he understood.

Thank you to those for the support. Postpartum anxiety is driving me insane so I’m glad this gave me the courage to approach it.

Good update OP.

Reposting it so that more people see it.

PS And hoping that it can be the start of him resetting the relationship with his mother. Not abandoning her but recognising that he has another family besides her.

FrostFlowers2025 · 12/10/2024 12:55

NavigatingAdulthood · 12/10/2024 10:29

No, I 100% know that he is the person at fault. I just know he’s having a hard time with everything but I don’t want to seem like an utter bitch. I’ll approach him and have that conversation with him. I just want to get across my points without feeling like I’m being horrible towards his MIL.

For the sake of your child, learn to "offend" by setting boundaries. You don't need to get angry or confrontational. Just say what you will do and what you won't do and stick to it rigidly untill the message has sunk in. Nobody can make you do anything you don't want to. The reverse is true as well.

The reason I am saying this is because your child will be dealing with similar situations as they grow up. They will be looking at you on how to deal with this. They will take their cue from the examples you set today.

You are a new mom and there couldn't a better time to set some precedents. People will learn quickly what they can expect of you. They will get angry at first if they don't get their way, but when they learn their anger is as pointless as their requests, they will give up and treat you the way you want.

VictoriaSpungecake · 12/10/2024 12:52

YaWeeFurryBastard · 12/10/2024 09:17

Family are always welcome to come for Christmas as our house, that goes for both sides. I can’t imagine excluding a parent that has recently gone through a traumatic separation. Pretty shocking to me.

But you're a good person. There are some people on MN who really aren't.

Lemonadeand · 12/10/2024 12:42

He definitely should have had the conversation with you before offering. I’d be tempted to take the kids to your parents, honestly.

NavigatingAdulthood · 12/10/2024 12:42

Red0 · 12/10/2024 12:41

Glad you spoke up OP and voiced your opinion. Also glad he agreed and sees your point. Hopefully now he will follow through and not be as thoughtless in future. Fingers crossed for a happy Christmas for you all!

Thank you! Just to clarify to everyone, she is always welcome here. We will still be involved with her at Christmas - it was not a ploy to “get rid” of her.

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PeggyMitchellsCameo · 12/10/2024 12:42

OP as someone older than this lady I cannot begin to imagine how and why she wants to live like this.
I am older, I have some significant health issues which mean I do need some physical help from my DP.
But I do the lion’s share of admin at home, I WFH when I am able to, and I would hate to be a burden on anyone.
This lady sounds like she needs to have friends of her own age, hobbies, interests and a routine. If she is sleeping until 2pm she is going to decline in health rapidly. To be relying on her son of 26 is not doing either of them any good.
But I have to say props to him for caring for her, as a lot of men ‘gift’ the care of their mothers to their significant others.
At 24, you are already very mature, a mum, with your own career and a loving family. You have spoken up and that’s brilliant - never worry about causing offence.
In families, people tend to just carry on when one person is providing the support. But over time your DH will need more time for his own family especially if there are a few young children in the mix.
What struck me from reading your posts is that you both work hard, you have made a solid commitment to each other, and are both caring and responsible. (I am just remembering myself at 24 - my mum was still doing my washing and ironing for me - I hold my head in shame!)
Maybe create a space just for MIL between Christmas and the New Year and take her out and make a bit of a fuss of her.

Red0 · 12/10/2024 12:41

NavigatingAdulthood · 12/10/2024 12:24

Okay, so an update! I’ve had the convo with him this morning.

He understood. I can tell he’s a bit hurt but he respects that he’s gone against the initial plan that he made. He said he would speak with his siblings to arrange something for her. Then we agreed we would see her at some point in the day. I explained I was not trying to be horrible and inconsiderate and he understood.

Thank you to those for the support. Postpartum anxiety is driving me insane so I’m glad this gave me the courage to approach it.

Glad you spoke up OP and voiced your opinion. Also glad he agreed and sees your point. Hopefully now he will follow through and not be as thoughtless in future. Fingers crossed for a happy Christmas for you all!

ClairDeLaLune · 12/10/2024 12:38

NewIdeasToday · 12/10/2024 09:14

It’s a shame he didn’t discuss it with you first. But it sounds like he’s trying to do a thoughtful thing for his mum who’s life has been changed so unexpectedly.

Your baby won’t remember a thing about this Christmas anyway. So I’d make the most of the day with his mum as well and make her feel welcome.

⬆️ This. And next Christmas it’s the turn of your parents. Next year will be so much better with your baby, he’ll be much more aware of what’s going on.

zeitweilig · 12/10/2024 12:35

Woolftown · 12/10/2024 12:31

Could you all go to your parents and then start ‘your’ tradition next year. Not ideal but at least that way you get to see your family.

She gets to see her family but he doesn't even get to see his mum?

Woolftown · 12/10/2024 12:31

Could you all go to your parents and then start ‘your’ tradition next year. Not ideal but at least that way you get to see your family.

Ozanj · 12/10/2024 12:31

NavigatingAdulthood · 12/10/2024 12:24

Okay, so an update! I’ve had the convo with him this morning.

He understood. I can tell he’s a bit hurt but he respects that he’s gone against the initial plan that he made. He said he would speak with his siblings to arrange something for her. Then we agreed we would see her at some point in the day. I explained I was not trying to be horrible and inconsiderate and he understood.

Thank you to those for the support. Postpartum anxiety is driving me insane so I’m glad this gave me the courage to approach it.

You’ve set a precedent now. Be prepared for him not to give you any leeway now if you need to spend Christmas with your family in the future for legitimate reasons. This wasn’t a conversation for this year - it should have been for next year. This year you should have accepted that your mil was suffering and allowed it.

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 12/10/2024 12:30

TheShellBeach · 12/10/2024 12:11

You also quoted the entire OP despite being the first responder.

Edited

Oh, my god
I will flagellate myself immediately

zeitweilig · 12/10/2024 12:28

Is your mum coming over OP?
Is it just MIL who isn't welcome in her son's house to see her grandchild, or your mum too?

Silvers11 · 12/10/2024 12:26

flyingmice · 12/10/2024 12:15

Death!? He just met another woman!

Oh God! Yes you are right and I do not know why I said that as I was also trying to work out whether MIL was still living in the same house at the moment, as that wasn't clear.

Can't change it now either😧😧

NavigatingAdulthood · 12/10/2024 12:24

Okay, so an update! I’ve had the convo with him this morning.

He understood. I can tell he’s a bit hurt but he respects that he’s gone against the initial plan that he made. He said he would speak with his siblings to arrange something for her. Then we agreed we would see her at some point in the day. I explained I was not trying to be horrible and inconsiderate and he understood.

Thank you to those for the support. Postpartum anxiety is driving me insane so I’m glad this gave me the courage to approach it.

OP posts:
LushLemonTart · 12/10/2024 12:21

Soozikinzii · 12/10/2024 12:18

I agree with you 100%. This is the kind of thing my DH would do . It's not consulting. That's annoying .if he'd asked you, and you'd discussed it, that's entirely different. Then it makes you look and feel like the bad guy because you're annoyed about it. Make it clear as to why you're annoyed, so this doesn't happen again!

How do you cope with that?

Soozikinzii · 12/10/2024 12:18

I agree with you 100%. This is the kind of thing my DH would do . It's not consulting. That's annoying .if he'd asked you, and you'd discussed it, that's entirely different. Then it makes you look and feel like the bad guy because you're annoyed about it. Make it clear as to why you're annoyed, so this doesn't happen again!

flyingmice · 12/10/2024 12:15

Silvers11 · 12/10/2024 12:13

I KNOW my partner has made the issue. Yes, it makes me somewhat selfish. However, I don’t want anyone to be left hurt or upset because I know how I would feel. However, am I wrong to try and put myself first for once?

@NavigatingAdulthood No. You are looking at this the wrong way. Your partner didn't just "make the issue" he IS the issue. And you are not selfish. Quite understandable in the circumstances. He wanted to stay home with you and your child and not be involved with your parents but then invites his Mum over.

A kind thing to not want his Mum being on her own, following the death of your FIL and if that were all, yes, it would probably be selfish - but the situation is much more nuanced than that, so you are not being selfish at all.

You're very young and if you've been together for 6 years, it means you were only 18 when you met. Both of you were still growing up and people change as they grow up into full adults. Gently, You sound completely passive and lacking in self confidence and letting people walk all over you. Nothing wrong with making your point of view. The fact that you are scared to have the conversation with your DP is a very red flag about your relationship.

Your DP is still very much under his Mum's thumb and if his siblings don't want to see their Mother over Christmas, it would appear to me that they have got the measure of your very selfish and self-centered MIL, while your DP and your MIL seem to be in a codependent relationship.

This situation is unlikely to change, unless you are able to stand your ground - and things will only get worse as MIL ages. She could be around another 40 years. Is that what you really want ?

Death!? He just met another woman!

hot2trotter · 12/10/2024 12:15

You are being a doormat in all aspects, it seems. Stop worrying about "offending" people (do you think they care if they offend you?) and stand your ground.

oakleaffy · 12/10/2024 12:14

@thepariscrimefiles
Cutting MILS toenails..
That's a hard nope.

Why the hell can't she cut her own toenails?

That's just grim.

If she cannot cut her own nails, she needs a podiatrist to do it.

@NavigatingAdulthood That's seriously not a healthy ask.

That reminds me...I need to clip dog's toenails! 😆

Silvers11 · 12/10/2024 12:13

I KNOW my partner has made the issue. Yes, it makes me somewhat selfish. However, I don’t want anyone to be left hurt or upset because I know how I would feel. However, am I wrong to try and put myself first for once?

@NavigatingAdulthood No. You are looking at this the wrong way. Your partner didn't just "make the issue" he IS the issue. And you are not selfish. Quite understandable in the circumstances. He wanted to stay home with you and your child and not be involved with your parents but then invites his Mum over.

A kind thing to not want his Mum being on her own, following the death of your FIL and if that were all, yes, it would probably be selfish - but the situation is much more nuanced than that, so you are not being selfish at all.

You're very young and if you've been together for 6 years, it means you were only 18 when you met. Both of you were still growing up and people change as they grow up into full adults. Gently, You sound completely passive and lacking in self confidence and letting people walk all over you. Nothing wrong with making your point of view. The fact that you are scared to have the conversation with your DP is a very red flag about your relationship.

Your DP is still very much under his Mum's thumb and if his siblings don't want to see their Mother over Christmas, it would appear to me that they have got the measure of your very selfish and self-centered MIL, while your DP and your MIL seem to be in a codependent relationship.

This situation is unlikely to change, unless you are able to stand your ground - and things will only get worse as MIL ages. She could be around another 40 years. Is that what you really want ?

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