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My sister’s husband has made her ill

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Setroinh · 11/10/2024 20:09

My lovely sister has been extremely destroyed by her pathetic husband. He’s completely vanished. Six weeks ago he sent her an email telling her he “couldn’t do it anymore”. BIL was working in Stockholm, we obviously speculate he has met someone. Completely left sister in the lurch - school fees, bills etc. Sister helped with the business admin but BIL did the actual work (she is not trained to do). She has cried, stopped eating, had panics attacks, contemplated suicide. It’s been horrendous.

My immediate family are supportig sister - our non-mum sister moved in to help with the three young kids, my mum’s cooked meals, my dad has done the food shop etc. My brother and SIL have taken the dogs and hamster.

She is on sertraline. She’s still a shell. She can do basically one activity a day ie the school run but then spends hours and hours in bed sleeping. She looks 20 years older.

I’ve suggested the cinema, spa day, dog walks. You name it. I just am at a loss. How can I help her? Brother is helping sister with business side of things. Is it an only time will heal thing? She’s so bad I can’t see her getting over this.

Any advice would be great. I’ve lost weight from seeing her like this. As I type my stomach is in knots. I’m just scared for her (don’t tell her this obviously). As she won’t be able to live off savings forever.

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Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 12/10/2024 08:53

neverstartingstory · 12/10/2024 08:47

You are right to support your sister. I think people can’t comprehend how shattering this is. Not only has she very suddenly lost her husband, And the kids’ their father, in a traumatic way. But she has lost her ability to support herself and the kids. It sounds like they had a very affluent life and she is now looking at living in poverty. Realistically, she is likely to lose her friendship circle and community too, as well as her home. This is a devastating amount of multiple loss to suddenly face.

You need to make sure she gets the best financial settlement from a divorce possible. Some women when they get depressed don’t fight for themselves and get shafted. He has doubtless already planned how to shaft her financially. She’ll need you to support her in navigating the divorce negotiations.

Edited

Living in poverty is a bit dramatic.

At worst she might be council housed, not begging on the street.

Some people act like being housed with the social is the worst thing that can ever happen

PennyCrayon1 · 12/10/2024 08:53

Atishooo · 12/10/2024 08:41

Fuck my life, some of the comments on here.

It’s ok to not cope when you have a life changing situation thrown at you.

The most earth shattering event has just happened to this woman. She needs to be able to fall apart and know that there are people there to help her build herself back up.

It’s perfectly normal to fall apart. When I found out about my ex’s affair there were days that if the DC were fed I counted it as a win as that was all I could manage. I couldn’t eat, couldn’t sleep and lost a huge amount of weight.

Fuck being strong. It’s the same as people saying ‘you’ve got this’, without actually being of any use at all.

Edited

Ok but lots of people don’t have the luxury of “falling apart” to be honest. I’m heart sorry for this woman but she’s very lucky to have her family around her. I feel more sorry for her children who have effectively lost both parents and won’t understand why.

Fran2023 · 12/10/2024 08:52

When I was 18 my Dad did exactly this except he buggered off to France and Italy with another woman. He was away six weeks. Told people he was dying of cancer. Told me he was going to kill himself.
Then he re-appeared and my mother let him come back. Not a word said, no apologies, we were expected to act as if nothing had happened.
He wasn’t depressed or ill. Just supremely selfish.

neverstartingstory · 12/10/2024 08:50

CherubEarrings · 11/10/2024 20:13

I am so sorry to hear this. Not making excuses but could her husband be depressed?. You and your family sound wonderful. Hopefully someone will come along with suggestions.

Astonishing that someone can read the OP and their first thought is for how the poor man is feeling.

Sandytoesandcrabs · 12/10/2024 08:48

Could you play nice positive mediations in her room for her. You can even get subliminal ones that have positive affirmations under the music. Nice aromatherapy smells and fresh air. Fresh new bedding. Just thinking how to make her bedroom nicer if that’s where she is most the time.

neverstartingstory · 12/10/2024 08:47

You are right to support your sister. I think people can’t comprehend how shattering this is. Not only has she very suddenly lost her husband, And the kids’ their father, in a traumatic way. But she has lost her ability to support herself and the kids. It sounds like they had a very affluent life and she is now looking at living in poverty. Realistically, she is likely to lose her friendship circle and community too, as well as her home. This is a devastating amount of multiple loss to suddenly face.

You need to make sure she gets the best financial settlement from a divorce possible. Some women when they get depressed don’t fight for themselves and get shafted. He has doubtless already planned how to shaft her financially. She’ll need you to support her in navigating the divorce negotiations.

Atishooo · 12/10/2024 08:41

Fuck my life, some of the comments on here.

It’s ok to not cope when you have a life changing situation thrown at you.

The most earth shattering event has just happened to this woman. She needs to be able to fall apart and know that there are people there to help her build herself back up.

It’s perfectly normal to fall apart. When I found out about my ex’s affair there were days that if the DC were fed I counted it as a win as that was all I could manage. I couldn’t eat, couldn’t sleep and lost a huge amount of weight.

Fuck being strong. It’s the same as people saying ‘you’ve got this’, without actually being of any use at all.

PennyCrayon1 · 12/10/2024 08:36

So what’s the MIL saying to things?? My MIL would be in Sweden dragging my husbands arse back home to see his children. If she’s doing anything less than that, then she’s as bad as he is.

(His whole family are - not just her - but I note that she is the only one mentioned)

Bethany83 · 12/10/2024 08:35

CherubEarrings · 11/10/2024 20:13

I am so sorry to hear this. Not making excuses but could her husband be depressed?. You and your family sound wonderful. Hopefully someone will come along with suggestions.

The post is about the O.P's sister and the terrible state SHE is in! Don't think we need to be worrying about the husband.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/10/2024 08:16

Errors · 12/10/2024 08:05

I don’t think that’s great advice. As someone else said, now she is on them, coming straight back off then is likely to make her feel even worse. Or if she is taking them erratically. I appreciate that situational depression isn’t the same as clinical depression.
I took sertraline for a while after my marriage broke down (nowhere near as traumatic as what the OP’s sister is going through but he was abusive and I had a small child and had to move out etc)
I personally think I used it correctly. It gave me enough of a boost to be an effective mother, to carry on working and to move home and I came off it 6 months later and haven’t been back on it since.

Yep. Agree. And if OP’s sister’s GP is a good one, the circumstances, and the continuing appropriateness of the prescription will be regularly reviewed.

PollyPut · 12/10/2024 08:09

Setroinh · 11/10/2024 21:05

We know BIL’s mum has spoken to BIL post email. We have left the seeing if he is okay to her and his side.

perhaps someone can talk to BIL's mum about whether BIL's parents can step in to help pay the school fees?

Errors · 12/10/2024 08:05

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 12/10/2024 08:01

I know, this is the problem is the withdrawals.
I personally don't think she should have been put on them in the first place because it is a situational depression not clinical. This is how drug companies get so many people dependant for life because they become addicted and struggle to withdraw. As I said I'm not talking about true, clinical depression or mood disorders.
All it will do in her case is mask the emotions which is natural to go through then once she comes off it will all come back and she could relapse.
I know in the scheme of things 6 weeks isn't a long time, but as a mother her sense of protection should have overridden anything else she is feeling by now.
I think she needs to get off those meds they're probably making her feel worse. Unpopular opinion I know. There was a mother in my area who had post natal depression, she went on anti depressants and 4 weeks later jumped off a motorway bridge. It was awful and right before Christmas as well.

I don’t think that’s great advice. As someone else said, now she is on them, coming straight back off then is likely to make her feel even worse. Or if she is taking them erratically. I appreciate that situational depression isn’t the same as clinical depression.
I took sertraline for a while after my marriage broke down (nowhere near as traumatic as what the OP’s sister is going through but he was abusive and I had a small child and had to move out etc)
I personally think I used it correctly. It gave me enough of a boost to be an effective mother, to carry on working and to move home and I came off it 6 months later and haven’t been back on it since.

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 12/10/2024 08:01

I know, this is the problem is the withdrawals.
I personally don't think she should have been put on them in the first place because it is a situational depression not clinical. This is how drug companies get so many people dependant for life because they become addicted and struggle to withdraw. As I said I'm not talking about true, clinical depression or mood disorders.
All it will do in her case is mask the emotions which is natural to go through then once she comes off it will all come back and she could relapse.
I know in the scheme of things 6 weeks isn't a long time, but as a mother her sense of protection should have overridden anything else she is feeling by now.
I think she needs to get off those meds they're probably making her feel worse. Unpopular opinion I know. There was a mother in my area who had post natal depression, she went on anti depressants and 4 weeks later jumped off a motorway bridge. It was awful and right before Christmas as well.

LoveTheRainAndSun · 12/10/2024 08:00

Medication won't help fix things but it can take the edge off while going through the trauma. It's a tool, not the be all and end all.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/10/2024 07:46

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 12/10/2024 07:40

All of this.

You can't medicate your way out of life's unexpected albeit traumatic events.
The shock will subside naturally, humans are built and designed to deal with these things without the use of drugs. She is not ill just experiencing a trauma.
It's obviously horrible for her and the children but with your help she will pull through this and come out the tunnel the other side.

A bit of chemical help is no bad thing if she’s this distressed. It doesn’t need to be long term - just to get her over the worst bits until she’s ready to face things. Sertraline is a very effective drug, it just takes time to work. And taking her off it six weeks into treatment is likely to make things worse, not better. The withdrawal symptoms aren’t very nice either.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/10/2024 07:44

Thevelvelletes · 11/10/2024 20:56

Bloody hell sertraline won't touch the side's of such a traumatic event.
She will need all the support family and friends can provide, emotional and practical.

My DH takes Sertraline to help with bipolar disorder, and it’s very effective. She’s only been on it six weeks - in some people it takes longer to work, it just needs time. Not saying that family support isn’t the most important thing, but this is similar to a bereavement, and many people need support in the form of this kind of drug. And taking her off it now will cause more harm than good, because she’ll have withdrawal symptoms to cope with on top of everything else.

BrownBirdsFly · 12/10/2024 07:44

I would urge you to look at the book ‘runaway husbands’ and the website that accompanies it.

Written by a woman who went through the same thing and containing the stories of many others. It will help her and you all feel much less alone and provide much needed hope.

I echo what other posters have said that this is worse than death. If someone dies they’re gone but you’re not faced with your whole past that you knew being destroyed and being totally betrayed by the one person you probably trusted most in the world. It is a loss of the past as well as the present and future.

It is a different level of trauma.

I did get up and go to work but I lost two stone, I contemplated suicide. I didn’t have a very supportive family and without my friendship group and a new partner I’m not sure I’d be here.

I would advise her to read the book. To feel less alone. To see the stages she will go through. To get her outside each day and most of all to provide her with hope. One day she will feel happy again. Most likely she will realise lots of things weren’t what she thought and he wasn’t the man she thought.

sending lots of love for the journey.

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 12/10/2024 07:40

hettie · 11/10/2024 21:39

Gently, your sister is reacting entirely normally to a very abnormal event. Unless this has tipped her into a mental health crisis she doesn't need a psychiatrist, you can't medicate your bway out or profound loss, trauma and grief. I'm slightly dismayed she's been given sertraline tbh. The physical manifestation of trauma and loss are what your seeing. Not sleeping, no appetite, very tearful, struggling to carry out normal daily activities it's all 'normal'. She needs your support and help with daily tasks, she needs you to reassure her that her feelings and actions are understandable and she needs time..... It's brutal. Of course it goes without saying that her ex is a total and utter grade a shit. Marriages end, people have affairs, but to walk out on your wife and kids without any communication or thought is despicable. I hope the lawyer is a grade A bulldog who ensured your diss gets a decent settlement and I hope the ex is dumped by the new squeeze

All of this.

You can't medicate your way out of life's unexpected albeit traumatic events.
The shock will subside naturally, humans are built and designed to deal with these things without the use of drugs. She is not ill just experiencing a trauma.
It's obviously horrible for her and the children but with your help she will pull through this and come out the tunnel the other side.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 12/10/2024 07:39

Rosscameasdoody · 12/10/2024 07:35

I agree. I think it’s harder in the sense that as well as processing the grief you feel at the end of your life as you know it, you have a sense of rejection by your partner because they have left voluntarily.

And at least if he’d died, she wouldn’t have all the financial turmoil/worry about what to do… assuming they had life insurance etc.

fastforwardplay · 12/10/2024 07:38

She sounds like she's had a complete breakdown. Please ask the GP to visit her if she won't go to the doctor herself l. Please be there with her because she's unlikely to be able to describe her current condition or will give a misleading statement. She's needs urgent professional medical help - she won't be able to get better by herself.
And big credit to her wonderful family (you guys) for the support and intervention

Rosscameasdoody · 12/10/2024 07:35

LoveTheRainAndSun · 12/10/2024 07:33

I wonder if something like this is harder than a death, in a way. If he was dead through an accident, at least she'd know where she stands and could process more readily. Someone being dead is so final, you know what you're dealing with, you know what needs to be done and that there is only one way forward. The not knowing is more like having a missing person and no answers. The uncertainty and not knowing could be so much harder.

I agree. I think it’s harder in the sense that as well as processing the grief you feel at the end of your life as you know it, you have a sense of rejection by your partner because they have left voluntarily.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/10/2024 07:33

Quaver9 · 11/10/2024 23:58

Feel free to put forward your suggestion for further intervention but you’re replying directly to me who is not disputing that.

I’m disputing the insinuations that her response is not normal, 6 weeks is a long time and she should be ‘better by now’ or that the support should be withdrawn.

Here’s some examples for you (there’s many more)

6 weeks is long enough to get over the initial shock.

I think it’s great that you are all so supportive but you are enabling her behaviour.

It’s time to start backing off

As harsh as it seems six weeks on she perhaps needs some tough love.

I think you’re doing too much.

She needs to be better. 6 weeks is a really long time.

6 weeks is long enough to get to a point where self preservation ought to take over.

she kind of needs a big of taking in hand and told to get on with things

There's a thing called learned helplessness.

I realize she is suffering from bereavement but many of us have been bereaved and back at work the following week.

I don’t know anyone who has been bereaved of a life partner and been back at work the following week.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 12/10/2024 07:33

She’s probably grieving not only him but their lives. It sounds like things will have to change like schools, home unless she can get legal help to claim money from him.

He is one of the biggest pricks I’ve ever heard about on here. How he can just not contact his children? Does his mother know the little girl is vomiting herself sick with crying? She needs to. If I was his mother I’d go and drag him back from Stockholm to face his responsibilities or he’d never see me again.

I hope she gets out of the hole soon. Try and make her see he’s not worth ruining her life.

LoveTheRainAndSun · 12/10/2024 07:33

readysteadynono · 12/10/2024 06:23

You’re really wrong. Psychologically it’s as traumatic as a death. This is a cataclysmic event in her life that has removed all her sense of who she is, who her family is, what her future looks like. I doubt tough love would do anything other than push her to a sucide attempt.

I wonder if something like this is harder than a death, in a way. If he was dead through an accident, at least she'd know where she stands and could process more readily. Someone being dead is so final, you know what you're dealing with, you know what needs to be done and that there is only one way forward. The not knowing is more like having a missing person and no answers. The uncertainty and not knowing could be so much harder.

Rosscameasdoody · 12/10/2024 07:30

Sparklfairy · 11/10/2024 20:34

Not making excuses but could her husband be depressed?

Who gives a fuck.

The family should. Because if that is the case, he’s going to come slithering back at some point begging for forgiveness. And it sounds very much as though if that happened in the near future he’d worm his sorry arse back in.