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My sister’s husband has made her ill

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Setroinh · 11/10/2024 20:09

My lovely sister has been extremely destroyed by her pathetic husband. He’s completely vanished. Six weeks ago he sent her an email telling her he “couldn’t do it anymore”. BIL was working in Stockholm, we obviously speculate he has met someone. Completely left sister in the lurch - school fees, bills etc. Sister helped with the business admin but BIL did the actual work (she is not trained to do). She has cried, stopped eating, had panics attacks, contemplated suicide. It’s been horrendous.

My immediate family are supportig sister - our non-mum sister moved in to help with the three young kids, my mum’s cooked meals, my dad has done the food shop etc. My brother and SIL have taken the dogs and hamster.

She is on sertraline. She’s still a shell. She can do basically one activity a day ie the school run but then spends hours and hours in bed sleeping. She looks 20 years older.

I’ve suggested the cinema, spa day, dog walks. You name it. I just am at a loss. How can I help her? Brother is helping sister with business side of things. Is it an only time will heal thing? She’s so bad I can’t see her getting over this.

Any advice would be great. I’ve lost weight from seeing her like this. As I type my stomach is in knots. I’m just scared for her (don’t tell her this obviously). As she won’t be able to live off savings forever.

OP posts:
Janesuperbrain · 12/10/2024 15:18

Carabelliana · 12/10/2024 07:05

kkloo

There's no such thing as normal. But it's the mundane tasks, routine & desire to survive that provides strength & new hope. Look at what atrocities people are coping with around the world to ensure their children survive. I do have sympathy at this situation but she's not putting her children above her own feelings.

Is it really just as primitive as her feelings though? Her whole body and nervous system has shut down, that is called a nervous/mental breakdown. That’s is mental illness territory not merely some hurty feelings.

Janesuperbrain · 12/10/2024 14:59

Carabelliana · 12/10/2024 06:24

This is very sad and a terrible shock for your poor sister & distressing for the children, but I agree with the comments that she needs to get on with things now. Six weeks is a long time, even longer in the poor children's eyes.

He has behaved awfully, men often do when they have young children, it's unforgivable.

Why have the dogs & hamster been taken from the home? Pets provide normality to a home, it's very difficult to be depressed when you have a demanding animal around. This would surely be upsetting for the children too, losing their pets. You all need to be pragmatic & practical. Tell her she needs to get up & plan for the children's future, assuming now that he's not coming back.

Doesn't she work? Many mothers work & this provides a focus & reason to carry on.
You say she's crying about the house & schools but she should be worrying about the impact this is having on the children & finding some resilience for them.

You say she won't be able to live off savings forever, no, she'll have to get a job & change things to support the children like millions of abandoned mothers do. Downsize, get a lodger, whatever.

The husband will undoubtedly reappear at some point. I would be over there looking for him to find out the truth behind his behaviour & to confront him about the future so she knows where she is & what to do next.

She should be cooking, doing all the normal things etc which will help her. Wallowing in bed for hours every day is ridiculous when you have three young children, normality is essential, she's making it worse for the poor children.
Don't get me wrong, it's a horrible shock, but reading between the lines he may have left her because:

a)She doesn't work & contribute to the household & he's tired of being the main breadwinner
b) she has zero resilience & is too dependent on him & he's met a strong, independent woman (possibly a single mother) & has made unfavourable comparisons, possibly fallen for her

There's no mention in your post about the relationship being good to begin with or any happy family times.

I feel there's more to this story. You say she can do one activity a day. This is because you're letting her do one activity a day. This enormous safety net isn't helping, not are the medications.

So she can access an Apple account, have a consultation with a lawyer, but not cook for her children or walk the dogs? People are surviving wars & atrocities in the world far worse than this right at this moment & surviving. Was she quite a weak person before all this? Did she have a good friendship network, activities/playdates for the kids etc? You don't say how old they are except that they are young, but they need both a semblance of normality & distractions right now.

The human spirit is strong when it needs to be & she needs to toughen up for her children, they are the priority here, seeing their mother completely fall apart is the worst thing she can do.

That’s a lot of whataboutary and projection.

The bit about people being in the middle of wars etc, well everything’s relative isn’t it. Op sister may never have had one bad thing happen to her in her life then boom 💥

Janesuperbrain · 12/10/2024 14:25

GhostCicada · 11/10/2024 23:13

Does the Dad know what is happening? The children need a parent. If mum can't do it then perhaps it's best that they move to dad for a while. The children don't deserve to be the victims in a family where the adults can't get their shit together. It's all well and good calling him a bastard and saying that she is grieving but meanwhile there are children being seriously let down by both parents. If his side of the family don't know what is happening then they should be filled in so they can pass it on to him and hopefully he will do the right thing and take custody for a while.

Is this the same dad that irresponsibly and callously ghosted his children with no warning and no contact details. He’s also in another country.

What part of that made you think he’d want to have his children come and live with him.

More to the point why would you think he’s a responsible parent who would do the right thing after reading his treatment of his family.

Janesuperbrain · 12/10/2024 14:01

Choochoo21 · 11/10/2024 22:40

Then she is not currently fit to parent a child and SS need to be involved or the child needs to be taken somewhere else.

It’s not a tragedy.
It’s awful and heartbreaking but it’s not a tragedy.

The most important person in this is the child.
OP will get over this in time but the child will not if she is not protected.

You obviously know nothing about SS because they wouldn’t dream of interfering if the children have other responsible family members to take the reigns for the time being.

Janesuperbrain · 12/10/2024 13:51

Choochoo21 · 11/10/2024 22:27

I personally would be losing my patience with her.
This poor child.

He isn’t dead, he’s just left her and no matter how hurt she is she needs to be getting it together for her child.

6 weeks is long enough to get over the initial shock.
Now it’s just a long, slow process of coming to terms with it, being angry, sad, hurt etc.

I think it’s great that you are all so supportive but you are enabling her behaviour.

If she doesn’t want to eat, then that’s her choice.

If she cannot look after her child, then SS needs to be involved.

You’ve tried one way of being overly supportive and now it’s time to start backing off, so she can start leading a more normal life again and her poor child can also start living a more normal life again.

Some people are just more fragile when life changing circumstances happen, she may never fully recover from what her husband has put her through.

I know people who have chosen to never trust in relationships again after something like this. It can be really damaging to another human when they put all their love and trust into a partner and are treated so callously.

I don’t think a ‘just pull your socks up and get over it’ attitude works for everyone.

Some people actually break.

TammyJones · 12/10/2024 13:12

@PennyCrayon1

Ok but lots of people don’t have the luxury of “falling apart” to be honest. I’m heart sorry for this woman but she’s very lucky to have her family around her. I feel more sorry for her children who have effectively lost both parents and won’t understand why.
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Agree ..,those poor kids

TammyJones · 12/10/2024 13:06

Geranen · 12/10/2024 06:41

@Carabelliana

a)She doesn't work & contribute to the household & he's tired of being the main breadwinner
b) she has zero resilience & is too dependent on him & he's met a strong, independent woman (possibly a single mother) & has made unfavourable comparisons, possibly fallen for her

Your comments are grotesque, victim-blaming shit.

Bit harsh.
There are always 2 sides.
People split up
By taking some responsibility gives you the strength to move forward and build a better life for yourself.
And I'm coming from a place of going through similar.
I know someone who got up every for work , kept going , was there for the children and cried when no one was looking.
It's horrible and worse than death but at some point you are just wallowing.
Agree about the pets ..,.can't one go hime at least ?

UncharteredWaters · 12/10/2024 12:43

I’d empty the bank account - he’ll soon get in touch then.

it’s only time before he does it.

WearyAuldWumman · 12/10/2024 12:42

Thevelvelletes · 11/10/2024 21:03

I don't I'm afraid, sertraline takes weeks to work,I ended up on 150 mg a day eventually and it stopped working.
Dr might do diazepam but it would be very short term perhaps 3 days max

I was given a fortnight's supply of Diazepam - 2.5mg, to be take once a day if required - when my husband died.

Doc later tried me with sertraline. Felt worse on it. Doc gave me another diazepam script. I don't take it every day - just when things are overwhelming. It's the lowest dose and I only get a script for 14 at a time.

MissTrip82 · 12/10/2024 12:06

There’s nothing ‘luxurious’ about one’s response to a major bereavement and that’s what this is. Your poor sister. She needs a psychologist to support her in this I think, if she can afford to do that. There’s a lot to process in different stages and a skilled professional is best placed to do that without making the trauma worse.

Like others I’ve been back at work days after a major bereavement. So? There’s no medal
for that. Nobody is losing because they can’t do that; I wasn’t winning because I could. I can’t imagine having so little empathy or thinking that my own experience and response must be universal.

Whyherewego · 12/10/2024 11:57

Oh my God. So awful and I think you're all doing a great job rallying around.
Get the kids into some form of counselling ASAP, right now they've lost their dad and their mum, understandably but they haven't really got her either. They'll need to get some support even if they're young.
Get practical for your sis as she can't be, so get all money moved out of joint accounts etc ASAP. He'll soon run out of the 2k and will need more. Just get everything shifted so he can't get at it. Then get the paperwork started for a financial settlement and divorce. I know it's not what she probably can process right now but she will need to be ready when he does finally contact and she needs to make the most of any guilt he'll feel to secure the best possible outcome.
Horrendous though

blackrabbitwhiterabbit · 12/10/2024 11:51

blackrabbitwhiterabbit · 12/10/2024 11:51

I had this almost-exact situation when my husband left me. Shock, could eat, couldn't sleep at night (but slept all day), went from 9 stone to 6 stone 10. I'd say it took me 18 months to feel any better and that only antidepressants saved me. And time.

couldn't eat.

blackrabbitwhiterabbit · 12/10/2024 11:51

I had this almost-exact situation when my husband left me. Shock, could eat, couldn't sleep at night (but slept all day), went from 9 stone to 6 stone 10. I'd say it took me 18 months to feel any better and that only antidepressants saved me. And time.

ShinyAppleDreamingOfTheSea · 12/10/2024 11:48

@Setroinh can I just check whether your sister is aware that you are posting about her here? It's a lot of personal stuff about someone else's life and recognisable circumstances.

Whatachliche · 12/10/2024 11:48

Itsdefinitelytimeforanamechange · 11/10/2024 20:48

I think it would be very unusual for a loving father to randomly go no contact at all with his children for 6 weeks, without some sort of mental illness / breakdown or major issue going on. Has anyone actually spoken to him on the phone?

it is actually not that uncommon. read runaway husbands by vikki stark

Atishooo · 12/10/2024 11:44

ItsOhSoTiresome · 12/10/2024 11:34

Then I’d say your MIL did a shit job of bringing up her son to be accountable for his actions, and if she wants to blame anyone, blame herself for bringing up a coward.

Thanks, yes I agree. All her DC had affairs but holds all the wives responsible. She took my ex in when I kicked him out, looked after him, took him out for dinner, even moaned that he was still having to work and then spend time with his own children whilst I was running myself into the ground. She also told me my role was to facilitate him. She’s an awful person. I no longer have anything to do with her. It’s made a hideous situation even harder.

user1492757084 · 12/10/2024 11:42

Terrible.

Can the family intervene and request that your exBIL please meet for explanation and plan for how his children will be provided for? - It's the least he can do.

Would your parents meet with him and a mediator (and your sister if she is well enough)? They could plan to meet a couple of times until until things are more clear.

ItsOhSoTiresome · 12/10/2024 11:34

Atishooo · 12/10/2024 11:20

I’ve already told my sons that if I see them treating their wives and DC badly, I’ll take it as a personal insult as a woman, as misogyny, and they’ll be in serious trouble with me.

My MIL told me it was all my fault.

Then I’d say your MIL did a shit job of bringing up her son to be accountable for his actions, and if she wants to blame anyone, blame herself for bringing up a coward.

Atishooo · 12/10/2024 11:20

I’ve already told my sons that if I see them treating their wives and DC badly, I’ll take it as a personal insult as a woman, as misogyny, and they’ll be in serious trouble with me.

My MIL told me it was all my fault.

Hippobot · 12/10/2024 11:15

You say you've lost weight and your stomach is in knots so I'm sure you can therefore understand the impact physically this has had on your sister. You didn't manage to look after yourself enough to avoid the weight loss so don't expect your sister to be able to look after herself right now either. You sometimes need to hit absolute rock bottom to pull yourself back up. It's a process she needs to go through. The problem with taking psychiatric meds (sertraline) is they can numb some of the pain which is incredibly unhelpful in terms of sorting yourself out in such instances. She will eventually heal and be strengthened by this but won't be the same.

NameChangeUser183794639 · 12/10/2024 10:52

PennyCrayon1 · 12/10/2024 10:26

Not “having the luxury of falling apart” means, if I fall apart my kids will go into care, I’ll lose my job and therefore income etc. So therefore I need to pick myself up and keep going no matter the cost to myself and my own mental health.

The ones you mention who did end up not coping and lost their kids because they didn’t have the right support around them, did not have the luxury of falling apart. They just did it anyway.

I don’t agree that it’s misogyny to expect women to put first the children they chose to have, in this situation. If I died or walked out on my family my husband would be expected to pick himself up and deal with the children, same way as I would. It’s not misogyny to expect the children to be put first.

I cannot disagree with you more strongly.

Not “having the luxury of falling apart” means, if I fall apart my kids will go into care, I’ll lose my job and therefore income etc. So therefore I need to pick myself up and keep going no matter the cost to myself and my own mental health.

I'm sorry but this is what I mean by naive. You just gave a nice linear, normal, reasoned way of thinking as an example.

How much experience do you have working with people suffering with MH issues or going through a mental breakdown? They cannot 'reason themselves' out of it! Hence the GP will prescribe ADs. If you can reason linearly and if you can care for something outside your present anguish and follow through, you are coping!
You might be suffering the agonies of hell. But you are still putting one foot in front of the other. You might find other things, counselling, CBT, reiki, acupuncture, your relatives, a holiday in Marbella, exercise, botox, a few one night standers all or any help you to keep coping and cope better.

Not coping is I cannot reason normally, I cannot do that. I cannot think about the children. I cannot get my body to move when I need it to. I cannot get out of bed, get washed and put my clothes on, without huge energy, leaving me with nothing for the kids, let alone seeing to the children's needs. Even if people take the children, I cannot give attention to anything except my distress. I cannot give. There is nothing to give right now.

Mental health isn't something you can just push aside. People have different tolerance to coping. Some can cope better in the same situation that others cannot cope in. This is obvious in all other situations (even a death) except being abandoned by your husband for some reason. Being well off, rich, having help, ultimately won't prevent a person from sliding into a mental crisis if they cannot cope.

I absolutely do think misogyny has a great influence and women have imbibed it. They give grace to men to F off through not coping, but afford to the mother no such grace or time of absenteeism . It's as if we have a hangover from centuries old religious views of women 'Mother Mary and her seven sorrows' for e.g. and it's just expected that women will always find a way to be a good mother to the kids no matter what private hell she is going through. Plenty of women to castigate you even the midst of a MH crisis if you dont. 'Come on, get up!' It's no wonder it's easier for men to get up and leave. They know the kids will be alright. Because the woman/women will see to it.

Toffeelover · 12/10/2024 10:47

I’m so sorry your sister is going through this. She is lucky to have you. Sadly, this is more common than you think. There is a group on Facebook called “Runaway Husbands” that she can join & get support from other women who have been through this

Autumnleaveswhenthegrassisjewelled · 12/10/2024 10:38

These guys currently have a six month waiting period for responding to some emails, so I would get onto them asap. It's for chasing up child maintenance if the absent parent is abroad.

www.gov.uk/child-maintenance-if-one-parent-lives-abroad/other-partner-lives-abroad

Floppyelf · 12/10/2024 10:28

Edingril · 12/10/2024 10:17

If she doesn't start caring for the children like a parent should then social services may have to involved

Yea the father sounds useless but someone has to care for the children parents split up all the time life carries on

This is appalling for the children they have to deal with their father disappearing and their mother is no use they are the victims

There is only so long they can have irresponsible parents for, hopefully they will get help at school

This. I do have sympathy for @Setroinh sister but its been 6 weeks. She need to step up. I would see a divorce solicitor asap. As he has at the moment abandoned her, she has a better chance of being granted the house and pensions etc. once his money starts to run out abroad he will be back and a divorce will be trickier. Either way she needs to ensure that things are rolling. Find her a part time job so that she can rebuild her life. Staying in bed will make the inevitable much more difficult.

PennyCrayon1 · 12/10/2024 10:26

NameChangeUser183794639 · 12/10/2024 10:04

I was going to suggest that book. It is truly eye opening and helped me tremendously when I went through the intense shock and hurt of my ex suddenly up and leaving with zero lead up or heads up. Your sister's situation is actually not that uncommon. It is selfishness (on the part of these men) of the highest order.

A PP said "some women don't have the luxury of falling apart" That's at best, a naive statement.

All women have the luxury of falling apart. You can either cope or you can't (no shame at all if you can't) You'll either have support or you won't. I have seen in my own anecdotal experience, two single mothers with no support fall apart following similar spousal abandonment. In one the kids went into emergency fostering while the mother was sectioned after attempting suicide. In the other the kids were placed by SS with the ex's grandmother and stayed there. The kids will either suffer or family and friends will support.

And lets not forget all the women who immediately jump into another relationship with a really inappropriate man as a coping mechanism.

I think that this happens and women are expected to pick up the pieces and carry on with the children is an example of the hidden misogyny in our culture. Women are always expected to cope. Always expected to see to the children. Expected to be uncomplaining super-resilient martyrs. Mental health and wellbeing be damned.

Not “having the luxury of falling apart” means, if I fall apart my kids will go into care, I’ll lose my job and therefore income etc. So therefore I need to pick myself up and keep going no matter the cost to myself and my own mental health.

The ones you mention who did end up not coping and lost their kids because they didn’t have the right support around them, did not have the luxury of falling apart. They just did it anyway.

I don’t agree that it’s misogyny to expect women to put first the children they chose to have, in this situation. If I died or walked out on my family my husband would be expected to pick himself up and deal with the children, same way as I would. It’s not misogyny to expect the children to be put first.