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To feel let down by Sandi Toksvig's Bake Off Comments?

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BishyBarnyBee · 11/10/2024 17:00

Sandi has given a few interviews saying her brain was atrophying on Bake Off and she had to leave for her own sanity. I know she's a comedian so her words are partly for effect - but it's so disrespectful to the people who love the show.

Richard Osman tweeted "I honestly don't think you should present shows you wouldn't watch" and I think that's right. She's really gone down in my estimation.

It would have shown more integrity to not take the huge pay cheque in the first place rather than phone it in for 3 years and then rubbish the show that's been paying your mortgage for you.

For the record, it's quite possible to be a very intelligent and well educated person and still be interested in cake - or at least, in other people, which is what that role is really about.

I've gone right off her!

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SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun · 13/10/2024 15:05

Actually can't stand Alison Hammond. Talentless and loud, loud, loud.

I have to admit that was my impression of her so didn't think she'd do well in bake off tent - but I was wrong I think she actually more talented presenter than I thought and found so far this series it's been one of more enjoyable ones since it got to channel 4 and I think she is a huge part of that.

Whenwillitgetwarm · 13/10/2024 15:05

I do like Alison’s infectious enthusiasm. She always comes across as though she knows she’s got a great job and really happy to be there no matter what she’s presenting. Akin to the fan of a band being invited onstage to play tambourine!

There was a long period where many presenters affected a cynical style and I think it’s nice to see someone who appears to be genuinely happy.

AutumnMagpies · 13/10/2024 14:39

DisabledDemon · 13/10/2024 14:15

Actually can't stand Alison Hammond. Talentless and loud, loud, loud.

I can’t either. She’s incredibly irritating.

DisabledDemon · 13/10/2024 14:15

Actually can't stand Alison Hammond. Talentless and loud, loud, loud.

TheKeatingFive · 12/10/2024 20:43

Of all the people negatively affected by TWAW it is lesbians.

Exactly this. It's quite something for her to pretend she can't see the implications.

Even if she's in a long term relationship, you'd think she'd understand what that means for those on the dating scene.

LindorDoubleChoc · 12/10/2024 20:19

She's a gay woman and totally at odds with all the gay women I know and love (quite a number including my sister and a few of my closest friends for decades) so her opining on TWAW is completely relevant.

Of all the people negatively affected by TWAW it is lesbians. So it's completely relevant - her comments on Bake Off prove is that she is happy to go along with whatever to ensure her income. I'm glad that Mumsnet at least has picked up on this.

Didimum · 12/10/2024 20:17

BishyBarnyBee · 12/10/2024 19:15

Plenty of tiresome young twats around, not sure her age has anything to do with it. And this post is specifically about her bake off comments. Not every Mumsnet discussion has to revert to the trans debate.

It’s Mumsnet. Of course it does 😉

Didimum · 12/10/2024 20:14

Working on a show is very different from watching it. Working isn’t for entertainment and she’s entitled to say it wasn’t challenging or enjoyable for her after 3 years.

I love M&S but my brain would also atrophy if I worked there.

TheKeatingFive · 12/10/2024 19:52

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/10/2024 19:23

I think it's relevant though, isn't it?

You said in your OP that you expected her to have more integrity and you refer to intelligence.

Well I think her comments on the trans stuff have shown that either she hasn't got any integrity or she's not very intelligent (or both).

She's just someone who will say and do whatever is expedient to keep the pay cheques coming in, whether that's presenting a show that bores the arse off her or obediently chanting the TWAW mantra.

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Yeah, it certainly feels like aspects of her character are shining through

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/10/2024 19:23

BishyBarnyBee · 12/10/2024 19:15

Plenty of tiresome young twats around, not sure her age has anything to do with it. And this post is specifically about her bake off comments. Not every Mumsnet discussion has to revert to the trans debate.

I think it's relevant though, isn't it?

You said in your OP that you expected her to have more integrity and you refer to intelligence.

Well I think her comments on the trans stuff have shown that either she hasn't got any integrity or she's not very intelligent (or both).

She's just someone who will say and do whatever is expedient to keep the pay cheques coming in, whether that's presenting a show that bores the arse off her or obediently chanting the TWAW mantra.

BishyBarnyBee · 12/10/2024 19:15

user47 · 12/10/2024 18:50

She appears to have entered the "Margoyles" phase of life and has become a tiresome old twat. She doesn't even know what a woman is anymore - of all things. Shame.

Plenty of tiresome young twats around, not sure her age has anything to do with it. And this post is specifically about her bake off comments. Not every Mumsnet discussion has to revert to the trans debate.

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LizzieSiddal · 12/10/2024 19:04

PaminaMozart · 11/10/2024 17:06

I do not give a toss about ST and GBBO.

However, she dropped WAY down in my estimation when she started talking nonsense about gender politics and getting on a soapbox claiming that Transwomen are Women.

Agree with this. She even said she can’t understand all the “fuss” women are making about transwomen in womens’ toilets because toilets they often have a man cleaning them. Utterly stupid comment which dismisses women’s issues about sports, personal care, prisons etc etc etc.
She really is stupid.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 12/10/2024 19:02

DogsAkimbo · 11/10/2024 17:07

Quite.

I was thinking the below explained a lot:

Sandi has given a few interviews saying her brain was atrophying

Lol.

So we have the tedium of Bake Off to blame for the fact that her brain rotted so much that she no longer knows what a woman is, huh?

user47 · 12/10/2024 18:50

She appears to have entered the "Margoyles" phase of life and has become a tiresome old twat. She doesn't even know what a woman is anymore - of all things. Shame.

BishyBarnyBee · 12/10/2024 08:46

I didn't know Sandy had started off in children's TV and just had a look. Wow! Full on 80s nostalgia including big hair and shoulder pads.

And a very young (obviously) Sandi. With a much less posh accent than she has now. I wonder if she was dialling it down to fit in with the vibe of the show or if she's developed the upper class drawl to fit in with the super-intelligent QI persona? Possibly a bit of both.

The sidebar then brought up this interview with Lorraine where Sandi says how much she loves working with Noel and how it's all about the bakers putting their heart and soul into their creations. Probably should have left it at that, Sandi!

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AutumnMagpies · 12/10/2024 08:46

They need presenters who are actually interested in baking themselves. Sandi isn’t, neither are Alison and Noel. They just make increasingly off colour ‘jokes’ and behave as if they don’t care .

AutumnMagpies · 12/10/2024 08:44

Now we have Noel and Alison though. Right at the other end of the scale. I really liked Mel and Sue and preferred Mary Berry to Prue Leith.

RedToothBrush · 12/10/2024 08:27

SidewaysOtter · 11/10/2024 22:29

Steven Fry is similar but he exudes a little more vulnerability

Only when it suits him. He strikes me very much as someone who can dish it out but not take it.

Can't stand either. Both were hosts of QI. I feel they are employed to appeal to a certain type of person with incredible intellectual snobbery. They would be caught dead in certain parts of the country mixing with the riff raff. Sandy's comments about the bake off tent stink of it. The whole, ugh why do I have to deal with THESE people. I'm so much better than this. To the point that she says she felt her brain rotting.

It's classism. It's really rather repellent.

BishyBarnyBee · 12/10/2024 08:10

Thanks everyone. I posted on impulse after seeing a new wave of headlines expanding on the comments a few weeks ago and didn't expect a big response. There is the usual sprinkling of AIBU "get a life" comments but most people seem to agree with me.

I thought the original comment might have been a humorous quip taken out of context, but she has doubled down on it this week. Particularly irritating to frame it as an act of integrity to leave, when she managed to put up with it for 3 years. And also managed to swallow her scruples and present the Tiny Design Challenge, which was about dolls houses and featured lots of slightly cringey jokes about tiny Sandi.

Obviously it's fine for her to not enjoy it and move on. But framing it in terms of her superior intellect and saying she couldn't see the point of the show is pretty disrespectful of the people who watch it.

@Mirabai said "Don't do a Ratners on your own show" and I think that sums it up. Yes, TV is an illusion and the Bake Off is a machine and not a family. But that illusion stands and falls by the relationship with the viewer. To be dismissive of the audience that keep you where you are is unprofessional and rude.

@CanINapNow described it as a "woe is me" attitude at being paid megabucks to present a lovely show". I think that's what prompted me to post. Many people work bloody hard in thankless jobs for a much smaller paycheck. Her comments were entitled and unnecessary.

I agree with everyone who has said Alison is wonderful. She looks like she loves being there, loves the bakers, and is having the time of her life. Of course, that could all be an act too - but IMO she has transformed the show and it is back on track after a few years where Prue seemed to be the only one who really wanted to be there. Noel is much better with Alison than with Matt too. I don't think he's that bothered about cake, but he does seem to really care about the bakers. It's shaping up to be a cracking series.

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zeitweilig · 12/10/2024 06:53

I think she's being honest about how it affected her - that doesn't mean she's criticising everyone who enjoys the show or who enjoys working there, it's just not stimulating enough for her. We all enjoy and are stimulated or turned off by different topics.
I do think GBBO has gone more and more down hill recently, AH might be a nice lady but she has been awful in every presenting role so far.

ruffler45 · 12/10/2024 06:36

chocolatemademefat · 12/10/2024 04:32

I’m with her - I find it boring now. It’s way past its sell by date. Series after series, same old stuff. Time to find something else to entertain us with.

There are a lot of programmes like that at the moment..

ruffler45 · 12/10/2024 06:34

Lets be honest, watching a cake bake is not the most simulating of experiences especially when it gets slagged off by the judges cos it not just x or y etc. Must be hours of boredom.

EngineStartStop · 12/10/2024 06:22

chocolatemademefat · 12/10/2024 04:32

I’m with her - I find it boring now. It’s way past its sell by date. Series after series, same old stuff. Time to find something else to entertain us with.

I’d agree it’s gone stale, and is maybe ready for a rest. It’s very “same old” now. It’s still pleasant enough to watch but I do so over my phone these days, never really pay much attention, and if I miss an episode, I don’t watch on catch up.

Kitkatcatflap · 12/10/2024 04:54

I think it highlights her snobbery. She claims she had never watched it, didn't understand it - when you could go to the shop and buy cake and hadn't watched it since leaving She joined in series 8. At a professional you'd have done some research. Clearly she thought she was too good for it. Don't blame anyone for following the coins as she has a family to feed but there was no need to act so superior when it didn't work out.

All worked out hough Allison is better.

chocolatemademefat · 12/10/2024 04:32

I’m with her - I find it boring now. It’s way past its sell by date. Series after series, same old stuff. Time to find something else to entertain us with.

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