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SparkleShineRainbow · 11/10/2024 06:27

If you have paid off your mortgage without a cash injection from family / inheritance / lottery, how did you do it?
Would you recommend it?

Live with DH and the 2 DC, both in secondary school, in London. Been in our house 10-15 years on interest only, lots of equity due to value increase. I have a good job, salary in low 6 figures, no reliable annual bonus although some years it’s a decent 4-figure sum. Husband self employed, earns a bit above UK national average.
We enjoy a good standard of living, holidays and kids activities etc. We spend most of what we earn. I save about 10% but only started recently. Not been brought up with money. Disposable spending money has been more important until now. But I don’t want to work forever and I don’t have a plan. I now want to pay mortgage so I feel more secure long term eg if I lose job or want to cut down.

Mortgage principal is a bit over 3x combined annual income (after tax).
We have never and will never receive cash injection from family or inheritance. I sometimes play the lottery though!

We are v privileged, I recognise that and apologise to those struggling who might find the question a bit grotesque.
NC in case outing.

OP posts:
SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 11/10/2024 08:42

Dibbydoos · 11/10/2024 07:40

OMG I can't believe some of the answers here having a go at you for having an interest only mortgage. Right now, I wish I'd done the same!

Check if your mortgage allows you to pay any capital off. It may not, so save alongside it until any deal you have is drawing to an end. When you remortgage, use your savings to reduce the mortgage amount. Your savings should be at least equivalent to the number of years your deal is as a fraction of the total years left in the mortgage. Eg 5 year deal, 25 year mortgage = 5/25 or 1/5 of mortgage value.

Paying off your mortgage may not be the most financially advantageous thing to do with your savings though. So as an alternative, use your savings to invest in another property, tenant or Airbnb it and save the profit. The property will accrue in value and your income will cover the mortgage plus profit. Do it via a LTD company as that is more tax efficient. Or invest in an ISA (stocks and shares but relatively safe ones)
Lastly, engage a financiaadvices to help you plan for the future, use one that can access the whole market. They are in the best place to review your circumstances and advise you on what is best for your long term financial security, not a load of MN commentators, albeit some may be FAs.

Good luck!

Genuinely confused. Do you mean you wish you had an interest only mortgage? Why?

BuzzieLittleBee · 11/10/2024 08:41

Possibly a daft question... but how can you overpay an interest only mortgage? I thought overpayments reduced came off the amount you owe, rather than the interest?

Mandylovescandy · 11/10/2024 08:41

We are downsizing to get rid of ours but we have also been on repayment mortgage and regularly overpaying. We have savings for the kids plus have worked out pensions and what we can afford and when we can retire. We earn a little more now but have mainly been at about £40k so I think on your salary you'd be able to save loads. Make a budget - how much of your income is spent on food, holidays, going out, bills etc and see what you can adjust and where you can save

DonttouchthatLarry · 11/10/2024 08:41

We had an offset mortgage and put all savings and salary into that account to reduce the interest, and paid more than the minimum monthly payment. Paid off in 12 years rather than 25.

ExquisiteIyDecorated · 11/10/2024 08:40

We had a tracker repayment mortgage which we took out when rates were 5 or 6% in the early 2000s (it was base rate plus a small percentage), when rates dropped we kept paying the same monthly amount. We also didn’t upsize, we stayed in a 3 bed semi. Also, forgot, it was an offset mortgage so we kept all our cash savings in the offset pots to reduce the amount of interest accumulating. Not sure if these are still available.

BuzzieLittleBee · 11/10/2024 08:39

WatchingReacher · 11/10/2024 07:02

We're interest only. We overpay by £600 a month and have been putting lots into pensions. Our aim is to use 25% tax free lump sum to pay off the 200k that will be left on the mortgage in 3 years when we're 55. Fingers crossed it's not removed/ reduced in the budget!

The difference between your interest only mortgage and OP's is that you have a clear and sensible plan to pay it off.

We started with interest only (took it out when endowment policies were still a thing), but over the years we gradually switched to part repayment/part interest only, and latterly all repayment. We still had the endowment, which paid out a decent lump sum in the end, and also had an offset mortgage which tracked base rate + 0.25%.

Interest only with no plan to pay off seems very foolish these days, especially with the higher rates, and I'd be amazed if your mortgage provider wasn't writing to you regularly (annually) with letters saying 'make sure you have something in places to pay your mortgage off'. We were forever getting them from Barclays - we were in no doubt about the situation.

If I was you OP, I'd be doing some pretty extensive scenario planning, as paying off the entire balance in 10-15 years is going to be a challenge!

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 11/10/2024 08:37

repayment mortgage for 10 years, overpaying a bit, then a small inheritance cleared the rest. A much better use of the money than an expensive holiday or regular luxuries and it left me lots of choices.

Idontmindmondays · 11/10/2024 08:37

I would suggest you both need to be on the same page regarding spending, because paying off the mortgage will reduce your disposable income, which I am guessing has been plentiful.

Start saving chunk of money every month that equates to your mortgage being on a repayment plan (I'd say a minimum of £1000 month considering the size mortgage I think you have), then use that lump sum to reduce the mortgage when you can (that will depend upon the terms of the mortgage) until you are able to remortgage to a repayment plan.

You don't mention if you have other debts, there's usually an order for addressing theses for financial health, and clearing those are often a step towards clearing your mortgage.Take a look at Dave Ramsey videos on FB, he is very straight talking.

Osco · 11/10/2024 08:36

We are in London and paid off mortgage after 14 yrs. We made the same payment from the start despite it decreasing and benefited for several years by being on a very low base rate tracker. We had no support from anyone. It was paid off by using some of our savings. The house price was only £250k when bought in 2005. Felt great to pay it off. I’d recommend it but we had a repayment mortgage so different position to you.

Theonewhogotaway · 11/10/2024 08:32

Op. When you’re on a repayment mortgage. The capital sum reduces. Which means the interest does, as the more you pay off the capital sum, the more it reduces and then the interest is applied to the continuing reduced capital sum, so it’s less as its interest charged on a Lower amount.

most people then keep their repayments higher, basically the same as before, or close to, as the interest reduces, meaning they overpay the capital sum each year to what is permitted in the mortgage terms, often ten percent, which then again reduces the interest due, as the capital sum is constantly being paid down.

after 15 years a significant amount of the initial amount borrowed would be paid down, giving vastly reduced interest due, allowing many people to pay off early. Or they just pay the reduced amounts and clearing it after the 25 years or however long they borrowed for.

a mortgage is simply a loan, like a credit card or any other type of loan. You need to pay back what you initially borrowed, not just the interest on it.

paying it down means your home is protected, should anything happen to either of you or your jobs. As a mortgage is a loan where you used the property as security, the lender has a charge over it. And any inability to pay can see them force a sale and take their money back, inc Any interest owed. A repossession. Every single person whose home has been repossessed could comfortably afford the repayments when they first borrowed.

the amount of interest you have paid will be shocking. As your capital sum you borrowed bas never been touched, as such the interest was always on the maximum amount, it never ever reduced as you never touched the initial borrowing.

as such, the choices you’ve made have cost you thousands and thousands in additional interest payments, if you did the exercise to total up how much more in interest you’ve paid every year as the repayment sum was never reduced and interest applied to the full amount, it would be horrifying. Plus at the end of the mortgage, the full sum is still repayable.

in reality you’ve not just spent what you’ve earned, you’ve been basically borrowing heavily to do it, every single day you don’t pay anything to that initial sum is another day you’re borrowing it.

librathroughandthrough · 11/10/2024 08:32

If you know you’re not gettting inheritance and you only started saving recently how did you plan to pay off the capital of approx £400k? Moving?

Dashel · 11/10/2024 08:29

We cleared ours a few years ago and went hardcore on it to clear it.

I would suggest

  1. Draw up a budget on Excel, list any debts, savings etc there is a statement of affairs template on money saving expert website
  2. Find the details of your current mortgage, what interest rate are you paying, are their early repayment fees, can you overpay without fees, if so how much
  3. Is it worth remortgaging?
  4. Are your bills as efficient as they could be? Any money you can save on renegotiating phone contracts, cut down on subscriptions can go on the mortgage
  5. setup an account on money saving expert forum and post on the mortgage free wannabe board. You will get constant advice and support and read other threads for ideas. You can keep a diary and it’s a long journey that will change constantly
  6. Play with the budget and figures, we decided to have one old car, cut all subscriptions but Netflix, keep the heating down, budget for holidays was small etc
  7. Don’t forget to pay into pensions

We had a repayment mortgage which allowed 10% overpayment per year and there were no restrictions on payment size. I transferred any spare cash I could, whether it was a £50 bonus, 50p I found on the floor, money from decluttering etc. Our mortgage statement was pages. But the sooner you pay the money in, the sooner you start saving on interest

We kept the mortgage payments the same or increased them when we remortgaged by decreasing the term. At the very end we were paying about £1500 a month or more for a tiny mortgage. If we had any spare cash we also paid a lump off when we remortgaged.

Chewbecca · 11/10/2024 08:29

Using your pension is effectively ‘stealing from your own retirement’, and will result in even lower income then, definitely best to pay your mortgage out of income earned whilst working (i.e. much higher!) if at all possible!

ComingBackHome · 11/10/2024 08:29

UnemployedNotRetired · 11/10/2024 08:26

Another route is using any pension savings, particularly taking a lump sum from a pension. Are you saving anything into a good pension?

I wouldnt touch pension.
The state pension is already quite low. You really dint want to end up with just that.

Anyotherdude · 11/10/2024 08:29

You still have time if you’re only 15 years in.
Keep your mortgage as is until the low rate runs out, then change to a different plan for repaying it (that allows you to over-pay).
Use this time to start building up savings. Don’t do the lottery - invest in NS&I premium bonds instead and every £1 invested has a chance of winning.
Set up ISA’s for both of you (and the DC) and set up meal plans, date night plans, holiday plans to save for these rather than spending Willy-Nilly.
Economise - make packed lunches if you find you’re paying shop rates for sandwiches, cook from scratch and fill the freezer at the weekend for the week ahead.
Decide how much to spend on kids activities, clothing and “stuff” from Amazon - and stick to it!
You can definitely do this on the income you have, so good luck😁

ComingBackHome · 11/10/2024 08:28

So yes we are mortgage free.
It happened because
1- we were repaying the mortgage, not interest only. You should have done that as soon as you could really. Before hols, renovations etc….
2- we actually repaid more than the minimum .

If your mortgage is fixed for a while now, you need to put the money you’d pay for the mortgage aside. Not just as ‘savings’ but as the mortgage, in the top of the savings.
Look at it that way. At some point, you had children in nursery. You could pay for it. Use that same amount to pay the mortgage. It will be at least £1000 a month?
It will eat you need to budget. You might have to scale down your hols.
But the relief of knowing you have and always have a roof over your head is immense imo.

MiddleAgedDread · 11/10/2024 08:27

Late 40’s and i have 4yrs left on my fixed deal (9yrs in total) and have the funds to clear it now but going to wait until the end of that period as it would wipe my savings out to an a uncomfortable level. How…..single income, no kids, haven’t moved house in 16yrs so mortgage is relatively low….also saved quite a lot during lockdowns.

UnemployedNotRetired · 11/10/2024 08:26

Another route is using any pension savings, particularly taking a lump sum from a pension. Are you saving anything into a good pension?

MumDoingMyBest · 11/10/2024 08:26

Speak to an independent financial advisor.

I'd also suggest looking at the moneysavingexpert website both on your own and with your teens. Financial literacy isn't really taught in schools so they may also have gaps in their knowledge.

You've got this. You've noticed an issue with your finances in ten years time and are acting now to fix things.

KnottedTwine · 11/10/2024 08:24

When we bought our first house in 1997 or 1998 we had interest only with endowment, that was a very common way of funding the purchase at that time. But by the time we moved into our second house in 2002 and remortgaged, the advice had changed and everyone was advising against interest only unless it was investment.

It was a very risky decision OP and agree with everyone else that all you can do is to make the switch to repayment as soon as you possibly can.

Londonrach1 · 11/10/2024 08:22

We overpaying what we can without penalty and putting money aside. We remortgaged when it came up just before the jump at least at 1% on a repayment mortgage. After 20 years caught in the rent trap I still pinch myself we got no landlords coming in unannounced. (We knew they can't but they did). Try and save if you are on interest only. I didn't know they still did them. I don't think you can pay off at the moment.

forgotmyusername1 · 11/10/2024 08:20

If you have had an interest only mortgage for the last 15 years with the low rates your payments must have been small - it is a shame you didn't save the money as now interest rates are higher and you have to pay it back in a shorter time period so a double whammy

You definitely need to make a plan for repayment. Work out using a mortgage calculator what the monthly payment would be for your current mortgage balance over your current term left at your current interest rate and start paying that at the minimum.

Dinosweetpea · 11/10/2024 08:19

Interest only on your income is madness.

TrumpIsACuntWaffle · 11/10/2024 08:17

SparkleShineRainbow · 11/10/2024 06:27

If you have paid off your mortgage without a cash injection from family / inheritance / lottery, how did you do it?
Would you recommend it?

Live with DH and the 2 DC, both in secondary school, in London. Been in our house 10-15 years on interest only, lots of equity due to value increase. I have a good job, salary in low 6 figures, no reliable annual bonus although some years it’s a decent 4-figure sum. Husband self employed, earns a bit above UK national average.
We enjoy a good standard of living, holidays and kids activities etc. We spend most of what we earn. I save about 10% but only started recently. Not been brought up with money. Disposable spending money has been more important until now. But I don’t want to work forever and I don’t have a plan. I now want to pay mortgage so I feel more secure long term eg if I lose job or want to cut down.

Mortgage principal is a bit over 3x combined annual income (after tax).
We have never and will never receive cash injection from family or inheritance. I sometimes play the lottery though!

We are v privileged, I recognise that and apologise to those struggling who might find the question a bit grotesque.
NC in case outing.

Start making capital payments to reduce the interest ASAP.
Overpay where you can.

Chewbecca · 11/10/2024 08:16

We did yes, and of course I would recommend it!

We did it via a repayment mortgage, wouldn’t dream of IO, plus overpaying monthly, increasing the amount of overpayment annually and paying lump sums off when possible.

We then put the extra ££ into pensions and ISAs fir a few years, then retired early. Definitely recommend.