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Why are teachers so rude?

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Van34 · 10/10/2024 07:14

I will preface this by saying I do not have kids and therefore my last interaction with teachers was when I was at school. I'm not going to let my teenage years cloud my judgement.

I have recently taken on a job that involves visiting schools (think cleaning supervisor, but not) I spend a couple of hours walking round with the team, talking about challenges, reviewing paperwork and doing a general checks. I don't have to interact with the teaching staff at all (thank god). But I find them so rude. They think nothing of just butting in mid conversation, no "sorry, I can see your talking, could I just ask X a question" they just start talking. They stare with a frown constantly and consistently. They don't thank you or the children for holding doors open for them. And they never smile back if you smile at them...

It takes me back to being at school all those years ago and now I wonder if it wasn't just me hating the place. I wonder if the teachers were all like that too.

This isn't an isolated incident. I travel to many schools and they are all the same...

OP posts:
Maddy70 · 10/10/2024 08:57

stravagante · 10/10/2024 07:16

I was once told, by a very wise mentor that if I was regularly finding everyone around me to be an arsehole then the problem wasn't them, it was me.

I've worked in loads of schools and they've had their fair share of idiots but most folk are nice. Like in the rest of life.

I have to say i have to agree. Ive worked in many many schools and have never witnessed anything like you describe. You always get the odd one in any environment

Hoppinggreen · 10/10/2024 08:56

Teachers are in generally very stressed and overworked BUT the ones I interact with still mostly manage to be pleasant and polite, even in situations that would probably make me lose my shit.
Having said that there can be a tendancy to speak to people like they are pupils not adults in some cases

Hannahspeltbackwards · 10/10/2024 08:56

SidekickSylvia · 10/10/2024 07:45

We're really busy.

So am I as an unpaid carer 24/7, dealing with a non verbal teenager, changing nappies of a 14 year old, coping with toddler style tantrums in a child that is big and strong.....longing for just a little break and feeling completely burnt out.
It doesn't mean I disrespect others though.
No matter how stressful my day is, I would never be rude to another person.

Nolongera · 10/10/2024 08:55

stravagante · 10/10/2024 07:16

I was once told, by a very wise mentor that if I was regularly finding everyone around me to be an arsehole then the problem wasn't them, it was me.

I've worked in loads of schools and they've had their fair share of idiots but most folk are nice. Like in the rest of life.

This.

AutumnalCosiness · 10/10/2024 08:55

SidekickSylvia
We're really busy.

This.

Everyone's busy!!!

AutumnalCosiness · 10/10/2024 08:54

HarrietTheFireStarter · 10/10/2024 07:57

I find teachers as a cohort bossy and arrogant. The God complex thing. There are some nice ones with manners but there are a disproportionate number of bloody awful ones.

I know a head teacher. She's a nightmare 😱

Cycleaway · 10/10/2024 08:48

Youre getting a lot of flack her OP. Lots of teachers are absolutely amazing, but I do also think it’s fair to say that some really aren’t. I think for some types of personality, demanding respect from everyone you encounter - as teachers pretty much do - isn’t very particularly mentally healthy. Very few people are so busy that they wouldn’t have the time to say ‘sorry to interrupt’ before doing so. Teaching can be a pretty stressful and thankless profession these days, so I think the chances of you encountering a stressed teacher are pretty high if you go into a school, but as for the encounter you’ve described, it’s more the case that some people are rude, and some of those rude people happen to be teachers, than all teachers are rude.

Zimunya · 10/10/2024 08:48

I'm on the fence with this one. I don't condone rudeness in any setting - simply no excuse for it. But I also really feel for teachers - massive expectations on them for very little reward.

ZippyDenimBear · 10/10/2024 08:46

Van34 · 10/10/2024 07:34

It's a complicated job, but the teams I visit I do not directly supervise. Cleaning supervisor was a bad example... I actually work for a different company so they wouldn't know who I was. I am by nature, a very friendly smiley person and have never encountered this in any other public sector area.

Agree that there are some schools that are worse than others. And it's unfair to tar everyone with the same brush. But it is unfortunately, more common than not.

We were deep in conversation yesterday about a troubling incident to be rudely interrupted by a teacher (who didn't apologise) wanting to know if they could hang a flag off the railing... not exactly urgent or safeguarding information.

You sound like you think you and your team think they are more important than they are.

Teaching involves lots of rushing around and interrupting! That teacher may only have had two minutes to get that question answered before they had to be in class/ a meeting/ on the phone etc.

It was a yes or no answer- a min or less to do so.

BaconMassive · 10/10/2024 08:43

I've visited hundreds of schools and I find 99% of teachers to be polite, courteous and helpful.

Any spikiness tends to be in those schools with the most draconian rules, zero tolerance and so forth. My conclusion is that sometimes those teachers must find it hard to get out of 'strict' mode / switch off.

DoreenonTill8 · 10/10/2024 08:39

Silverbook · 10/10/2024 08:10

I think you are absolutely right OP.

The entire teacher profession is rude. All of them. In every school and at every level. It’s myth that teaching is a vocation generally attracting nurturing individuals. They are rude.

You, being naturally smiley, friendly and an all round good egg spend your time online providing the service of alerting us all to this. Hero.

While floatily, ambling around the school being disturbed in their valuable work by bloody TEACHERS!! In a school of all places!!

Matronic6 · 10/10/2024 08:38

Tbh, it kind of sounds like a busy school day. Everyone is just so busy and you don't all catch up in the staff room daily, if you pass the person you need to ask something or clarify you basically go for it on the spot. I'm sure I have interrupted people in this manner but it will definitely have been a situation where I am the way to collect from playground or on way back to class and I will see the site manager or accountant and quickly ask a question or remind them of something.

greenday16B · 10/10/2024 08:36

When you step away from this type of work environment , you realise how wrong it all is. Not to have time to go to the toilet all day, not to have time to decompress for half and hour and eat a sandwich. People have forgotten how to behave. No Good Mornings or Have a nice weekend.

Teachers are no more rude than anybody else.

Malaguena123 · 10/10/2024 08:36

Inspireme2 · 10/10/2024 08:04

Teachers choose to teach..
Find another job.
You get more hoildays than the rest of the work force!

When you work 60 hours a week, it's less like holiday, more likeTOIL!

LovingCritic · 10/10/2024 08:28

Van34 · 10/10/2024 07:34

It's a complicated job, but the teams I visit I do not directly supervise. Cleaning supervisor was a bad example... I actually work for a different company so they wouldn't know who I was. I am by nature, a very friendly smiley person and have never encountered this in any other public sector area.

Agree that there are some schools that are worse than others. And it's unfair to tar everyone with the same brush. But it is unfortunately, more common than not.

We were deep in conversation yesterday about a troubling incident to be rudely interrupted by a teacher (who didn't apologise) wanting to know if they could hang a flag off the railing... not exactly urgent or safeguarding information.

If you work for one of the big facilities management companies you will be viewed as the devil incarnate by teachers.

Thankfully my school still has its own superb estates and caretaking team, the one down the road is managed under a PFI contract by a facilities management company.

They scalp the tax payer, and us teachers know this - so anyone associated will get short shrift from me.

CrushingOnRubies · 10/10/2024 08:26

Not as bad as what op is describing

And it's not as bad but when I first started as being a member of support staff in a school, there was very much an upstairs downstairs attitude.

Some teachers can still be like this

Fizbosshoes · 10/10/2024 08:26

Some people are unfortunately rude
Some of them might be teachers, there will be some crossover.....but quite ridiculous to say they all are.
(I know several teachers socially IRL and none of them are rude or unpleasant, and in 14 years of having kids at school I can only think of one who I found unpleasant)

MrsMitford3 · 10/10/2024 08:19

I'm not going to let my teenage years cloud my judgement

Interesting sentence in first post-I think that is exactly what you are doing.

Think this is all you @Van34

GoldyHorn · 10/10/2024 08:17

Teachers choose to teach..
Find another job.
You get more hoildays than the rest of the work force
!

I've done this, found another job. I only work part time now to earn the same that I was earning when I was a teacher so the holidays are easily balanced out by that.

SoupDragon · 10/10/2024 08:15

BabyR · 10/10/2024 08:03

I have been a parent for 15 years so I known exactly what you mean. They’re so miserable except for the odd ones.

We had two teachers bullying my child and they were caught out doing it by other staff. I think the power of being in charge went to their heads.

I was in the school years for 20 years over 3 children and never came across miserable, bullying teachers.

MILLYmo0se · 10/10/2024 08:14

Where are you having these conversations about troubling incidents etc? I had assumed you meant you were just in hallways so could understand people jumping in to ask a question, but by sounds of that you are presumably having these conversations in a room with the door closed, so are teachers just bursting in to interrupt?

BlackOrangeFrog · 10/10/2024 08:13

BabyR · 10/10/2024 08:03

I have been a parent for 15 years so I known exactly what you mean. They’re so miserable except for the odd ones.

We had two teachers bullying my child and they were caught out doing it by other staff. I think the power of being in charge went to their heads.

So 2 teachers out approximately 640,000 teachers... Definitely a representative example.

Gogogo12345 · 10/10/2024 08:13

HarrietTheFireStarter · 10/10/2024 07:57

I find teachers as a cohort bossy and arrogant. The God complex thing. There are some nice ones with manners but there are a disproportionate number of bloody awful ones.

Maybe it's that bossy arrogant people like to become teachers. A girl who was at school with my eldest DD was very like this. Also involved in the church youth clubs and used to like to pick on my younger DD ( because officially was 6 weeks young for the group) and this girl rule obsessed.

When she grew up she became a teacher. First in a private school then in China. Still bossy and arrogant to this day

BlackToes · 10/10/2024 08:12

There are many nice teachers and also arsehole teachers. However schools are regularly a dog eat dog type of place and dynamics can reflect this. A lot of what goes on would not be tolerated in adult work places, the shouting, the violence, intimidation,

Silverbook · 10/10/2024 08:10

I think you are absolutely right OP.

The entire teacher profession is rude. All of them. In every school and at every level. It’s myth that teaching is a vocation generally attracting nurturing individuals. They are rude.

You, being naturally smiley, friendly and an all round good egg spend your time online providing the service of alerting us all to this. Hero.

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