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Why are teachers so rude?

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Van34 · 10/10/2024 07:14

I will preface this by saying I do not have kids and therefore my last interaction with teachers was when I was at school. I'm not going to let my teenage years cloud my judgement.

I have recently taken on a job that involves visiting schools (think cleaning supervisor, but not) I spend a couple of hours walking round with the team, talking about challenges, reviewing paperwork and doing a general checks. I don't have to interact with the teaching staff at all (thank god). But I find them so rude. They think nothing of just butting in mid conversation, no "sorry, I can see your talking, could I just ask X a question" they just start talking. They stare with a frown constantly and consistently. They don't thank you or the children for holding doors open for them. And they never smile back if you smile at them...

It takes me back to being at school all those years ago and now I wonder if it wasn't just me hating the place. I wonder if the teachers were all like that too.

This isn't an isolated incident. I travel to many schools and they are all the same...

OP posts:
Spottydotty268 · 10/10/2024 13:53

Tattoonew · 10/10/2024 10:48

@Spottydotty268
The teachers are all really nice, but I don't think that they say please and thank you when talking to the kids! I guess that's not necessarily rude as they're in an authority position to the children, but it's just what I've noticed.
Generally I think teachers have a hard job and I'd not want to do it myself, plenty of other occupations that come across as rude but just my experience!

Why do you think they don’t say please and thank you?? I’d be more inclined to think it’s the influence of her classmates than her teacher. It makes a teacher’s job a lot easier modelling please and thank you especially when they are constantly reminding children to say please and thank you.

Katielovesteatime · 10/10/2024 13:50

I'm a teacher. We have a secret society which it's compulsory for every teacher in the world to belong to. We all have to have training to ensure that we behave in exactly the same way, say the same rude words, scowl the same rude scowl. That's why literally every teacher in the entire world is exactly the same, and that's why we are all always rude. All of us. Every one. All the time.

Member869894 · 10/10/2024 13:38

Interesting. My experience of teachers is that they often act as they are the only people.who have stressful jobs.

Malaguena123 · 10/10/2024 13:32

BurntBroccoli · 10/10/2024 09:22

I don't think you need to be rude though! Lots of jobs are similar, not just teaching (thinking of places like Starbucks and Tesco when it's manic).

You can be busy but still have manners.

It's more the OPs perception of rude - if I've really got 2 minutes to get something sorted and I interrupt a long conversation by saying "excuse me can I just .." I wouldn't consider it rude but OP does!

Zimunya · 10/10/2024 10:55

Rain11 · 10/10/2024 10:39

Oh, look, another thread bashing teachers.

How original...

Has this become a trend?

Have you read the thread? Sure, some posters are bashing teachers, but the majority of the responses are in support of teachers and reflect on the amazing job they do and the enormous workload they carry.

Tattoonew · 10/10/2024 10:48

@Spottydotty268
The teachers are all really nice, but I don't think that they say please and thank you when talking to the kids! I guess that's not necessarily rude as they're in an authority position to the children, but it's just what I've noticed.
Generally I think teachers have a hard job and I'd not want to do it myself, plenty of other occupations that come across as rude but just my experience!

Rain11 · 10/10/2024 10:39

Oh, look, another thread bashing teachers.

How original...

Has this become a trend?

Mumwithbaggage · 10/10/2024 10:38

I've taught in all kind of schools and have four children (adult now). Of course there are some rude teachers just as there are some rude people in all work environments.

I don't think a lack of time makes it OK to be rude to anyone. Sometimes people can be caught at a bad moment.

At the school I work at now, we always model please and thank you to the children, encouraging kindness and good manners. It makes our lives better as well as the children's. A previous headteacher on the other hand was one of the rudest most unpleasant bullying people I have ever had the misfortune to meet.

It upsets me when all teachers are tarred with the same brush. It's a tough job (like many many others) and so many people think it's fair to have a go at all of us. It's demoralising.

RaraRachael · 10/10/2024 10:32

I daresay there are as many rude people in teaching as there are nurses, solicitors, policemen etc.
As PPs have said, maybe it's you, not them.

You remind me of our neighbours. When I moved in they told me they'd had to move from Leeds because they had horrible neighbours. Over the 10 years they were here they fell out with virtually everybody because they were just horrible people.
They finally moved away but are probably telling their new neighbours that they had to move from Aberdeen because the neighbours were horrible.

adorablecat · 10/10/2024 10:30

The chances are that your presence is adding to the teachers' workload or otherwise making the teachers' job more difficult than it already is, and they don't want you there. Which is not your fault, but you can't really expect them to make you feel welcome.

DadJoke · 10/10/2024 10:27

Teachers are constantly busy. If you start from a POV that you are interrupting their day, and be apologetic that you are taking their time, you’ll get a better response.

Wouldhavebeenproficient · 10/10/2024 10:22

Having worked in various schools, I think they're busy and stressed and you're just not really on their radar in terms of what they're dealing with that day. Different schools have different cultures, some are happier and friendlier than others but generally that's the issue.

howshouldibehave · 10/10/2024 10:20

Fizbosshoes · 10/10/2024 09:54

I think unless you've done any job you probably don't understand it fully. I don't think time pressure is exclusive to teaching though. I've heard GPs and nurses say they're so busy they don't get time for the toilet.

And I’ve met some really rude doctors and nurses. I wouldn’t ever start a blanket post asking why they are all rude though.

Some people are arses, whether they are parents, dentists, physiotherapists, cleaners or traffic wardens.

StaunchMomma · 10/10/2024 10:18

Yes, teachers are just one homogenous mass of frowning and interruptyness.

Definitely ALL cunts.

🙄

Have you considered the possibility that they're wary and mistrusting of people who swoop in and 'check paperwork' for good reason?

2Little · 10/10/2024 10:16

I don't know. I think that the school environment is rather toxic. I was once in a lesson when the history teacher was talking about feudal system. He related the system to the school environment. The headteacher as the king, the SLT as nobility, the teachers as the soldiers and the cleaning staff and TA''s as the peasants. I was absolutely horrified. I'm not sure he realised the impact of his lesson on the kids behaviour or his colleagues.

I think saying all teachers are rude is a massive generalisation. I know lots of very lovely teachers. However, some are absolute arseholes. Obviously, being overworked, exhausted and never getting a break doesn't help. That mixed in with the shitty environment is just a bad mix.

Saltedbutter · 10/10/2024 10:05

I’ve met a fair share of teachers through DC schools and, of course, some are arseholes. The majority have been lovely.

You seem to have a very blanket view - are you sure you’re not the problem?

Nothatgingerpirate · 10/10/2024 09:58

Good post.
They always have been.
Obviously I'm ancient, however in my time they just took their own failures and frustrations on the kids.
(Another country).

Fizbosshoes · 10/10/2024 09:54

WomanFromTheNorth · 10/10/2024 09:13

I think it's down to lack of time. Teachers literally don't have time to go to the toilet. Unless you've done it, you wouldn't understand the time pressure.

I think unless you've done any job you probably don't understand it fully. I don't think time pressure is exclusive to teaching though. I've heard GPs and nurses say they're so busy they don't get time for the toilet.

isntitalwaystheway · 10/10/2024 09:54

I have a peripatetic job that takes me into lots of schools.

Some schools just have a 'culture' that is, as has been said, abrasive. Most secondary schools are absolutely toxic places (as evidenced by the current attendance crisis, one in five kids can't cope with being in them).

I something it's just teachers though, I've met some really rude pastoral staff.

Spottydotty268 · 10/10/2024 09:54

Tattoonew · 10/10/2024 09:37

Agree!
My polite little DD who always says please and thank you has stopped since she started reception and I can only assume this is because she isn't hearing anyone say those words to her! She will role play schools with me in the evenings and the way she speaks playing the 'teacher' is blunt and pretty rude by our standards!

Oh yes let’s blame her teachers for her not saying please and thank you anymore 😆😆😆😆

DrinkElephants · 10/10/2024 09:41

My husband is school support staff and my mum worked as school support staff and they’ve both experienced what you’ve mentioned.

Its 50:50 some teachers really lovely and chatty to support staff but other literally look down their noses at them as those they are superior.

Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 10/10/2024 09:40

I agree and they are so bloody patronising. I recently highlighted that my son would be triggered by something at the time of Gcse exams and the teacher replied “well we can’t change the date of the exam”. No shit Sherlock.

Boobygravy · 10/10/2024 09:38

NoOffButton · 10/10/2024 09:31

One teacher appeared to be rude, not all teachers. They were were most likely really busy and didn’t have time for niceties. Sorry but you’re overthinking this.

Prefacing a conversation with ‘sorry to interrupt’ takes 2 seconds.

I was a nurse, I know what busy is.

Tattoonew · 10/10/2024 09:37

Agree!
My polite little DD who always says please and thank you has stopped since she started reception and I can only assume this is because she isn't hearing anyone say those words to her! She will role play schools with me in the evenings and the way she speaks playing the 'teacher' is blunt and pretty rude by our standards!

Boobygravy · 10/10/2024 09:36

I’ve known lots of teachers, they’re not usually rude but they are abrupt and definitely bossy - skills that they perhaps need.

My dd wanted to be a teacher and I successfully put her off. She’s got a lovely job now, still dealing with schools and says teachers accompany the pupils to the event where dd has to give a talk and invariably teachers will butt in and interrupt the talk which is dd’s area of expertise. She has learned to shut them down.

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