Why are teachers so rude?

But that isn't what strawberry said. Did you miss the sentence, "It's not all of them by any means" ?

At no point did I say I found everyone else rude. Just a few of the teachers I have worked with. I actually said multiple times that it wasn’t all of them. Many if not most teachers are lovely but some do the job for the wrong reasons and seem to enjoy looking down on others. I was treated awfully in my last teaching job by a select few teachers and it really effected my mental health. Maybe stop telling people that they’re the problem in situations you know nothing about. It really doesn’t make you look intelligent.

People who state that they find everyone else rude….,

They certainly should be paid far better than they are. How can the best and brightest be attracted into the profession otherwise?

Your post shows your complete lack of understanding of the relentless stress and pressure of a teaching job. Maybe if teachers had their workload halved and their pay doubled, they’d have the capacity for pleasantries.

You're right that there is a sort of toxic thread through teaching though. It's created by underfunding, a crisis in lack of support for increasing numbers of children with SEND and traumas, and an excessive workload, leading to disastrous recruitment and retention levels. Lots of teachers leave. The rest stay (because they like the actual teaching bit but either can't afford to quit and start another job from the bottom and/or have never done anything else.

I know, don't blame me - I didn't vote for the Tories. But nobody should teach because they need the money if they aren't up to the job.

Whoever said teachers shouldn't be challenged - that's ridiculous. Some teachers shouldn't be there. Standards have slipped so that now people who are not qualified are in posts they should not be.

What a horrible post. Maybe you are the problem. Teaching is not a nice profession to be in anymore, constant observations, no proper breaks and people being constantly rude. Maybe you are rude and don't realise.

The problem with teaching is that everyone went to school so therefore feel like they know what goes on in teaching. That's when they don't like to be challenged. You may have teachers in your family but if you're not there day in day out then you won't know what goes on. Can you give an example of these challenges?
No one denies that the holidays are a perk of the job so could you also give an example of another perk? I saw colleagues miss important events at their own children's school as they were not allowed the time off. I saw people miss weddings and even funerals of family / friends because you can't just take a day's leave. I saw colleagues with and without children paying through the nose for the holidays because they can't go on the Thursday and come back on the Tuesday etc. I see teacher after teacher taking in boxes of stationery because the budget for that didn't cover what they need. I've seen teachers go in when they're not well because work had to be set and sometimes that's harder than going in.
I've been left a good few years now so sorry if some of my examples are out of date. Please do enlighten me as to which perks I'm missing out on

Doesn't sound like a victim complex to me.
Teachers are challenged often. Do they like being challenged by people with no experience in teaching? No. No expert would.

The challenges in teaching are sometimes worse than in lots of jobs. Not always, and not worse than in all other jobs. I have never heard a teacher say they were (though other people love to interpret it this way).

There are indeed shit teachers and amazing teachers. The vast majority are somewhere in between. Just like in all jobs, in fact.

You're right that there is a sort of toxic thread through teaching though. It's created by underfunding, a crisis in lack of support for increasing numbers of children with SEND and traumas, and an excessive workload, leading to disastrous recruitment and retention levels. Lots of teachers leave. The rest stay (because they like the actual teaching bit but either can't afford to quit and start another job from the bottom and/or have never done anything else.

Oh yes I can explain what I mean.

They think that they should never be challenged. They think that the challenges they face in their job are worse than people have in other jobs. They don't appreciate the perks of the job. They often are not teachers because they wish to inspire their students and do not see why they should try.

I come from a family of teachers and I have 4 children so I am more than entitled to my opinion. And it does not apply to all teachers but certainly it does to some. and seems to be a sort of toxic thread throughout the profession itself. The good teachers are truly amazing though and have the ability to change the lives of their students.

Could you explain what you mean?

A lot of teachers have a victim complex which is annoying.

How long should they have waited for you to finish your chin wag so they could get on with their job?

It’s not like they don’t have to teach children and then do all this additional things in the 2.5 hours a week outside of teaching plus their breaks.

It is their workplace and their timings are fixed because of their lessons.

I often don't get time to go to the toilet each day, let alone eat my lunch without shoving down in 2 minutes and racing off to duty, or sit with a cup of tea for 5 minutes. I worked in a very high pressure, high responsibility environment managing a large and complex portfolio of clients and a challenging team for many years before I switched to teaching and I can hand on my heart say that nothing compared to the stress, challenge, fast pace, soul-sucking never ending demand of teaching. Forgive us if we don't stop and hold polite conversations with you - we've probably just copped a mouthful from a student, have emails from demanding parents to respond to and admin who don't have our backs. Plus we have to find the time to teach and class starts in a minute across the other side of campus. Be nice.

This is a really weird statement. What evidence is there to suggest that Strawberry was the problem?

I had a very similar experience when I was teaching - worked with some incredible teachers and some who were not nice people at all and should not have been teaching.

Teachers don’t have time to wait for answers. They have that time to do something before they have to go get the class and then it goes back on the never ending to do list.

it’s perfectly acceptable to walk out mid conversation if you have somewhere to be. Nobody minds.

nobody holds doors any more unless they are older. Young folk are too engrossed in their phone.

so many visitors go round school that you don’t have time to stop and chat.

get over yourself

Apart from the statutory holiday requirements, teacher holidays are unpaid.

Based on what exactly? You know nothing about me. You’ve never met the people I worked with or heard how they spoke to me. I was a newly qualified teacher. I progressed well and passed all of my observations. I did nothing but work every hour that I possibly could to try and please everyone, and a few (not all) of the more experienced teachers did nothing but put me down because it made them feel superior. Other members of staff (TAs, cleaning staff etc) also felt this way about them and some complained, so it wasn’t just me. Working in that completely toxic working environment ruined my mental health for a long time. Don’t speak about a situation you know nothing about.

Sounds like you might have been the problem in that situation.

You do realise that they choose to work with children because they care about them and work hard at the job? Or are you lacking intelligence. I guess it’s the latter.

What a horrid post. Teachers are some of the kindest, most compassionate and down-to-earth people you will ever meet. They have to work long hours and prioritise all the children under their care, sometimes at the expense of their own families. You need to get back under that rock.

Oh wow. This is a whole new MN low on how to slate teachers type post.

I’m a teacher. I treat all the staff and adults and children at my school in the same curious way. I hold doors open for them or thank those who open them for me. I smile and say good morning/afternoon when passing. I say please and thank you when making requests to cleaners/maintenance staff etc. And generally all the staff at my school are the same. In a previous school I had a TA who enjoyed being in my class and that o talked to her on the same level as everyone but there were teachers she had come across who did speak down to staff who weren’t teachers but who weren’t management. So some teachers can be rude. However this is not all teachers.

I could probably make the same general sweeping statement about most professions I encounter but o don’t generalise poor interactions and being representative of the wider group. And in general you don’t know what’s going on for them at the time.

I have the opposite experience.
I visit schools regularly. I have found the teachers & support staff friendly & accommodating in the main. We offer a service that interrupts their days but even so they are lovely.

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I don't like teachers - didn't like them in school, haven't liked the personality of any I've met as an adult. I think they're rude because most of them don't treat children with respect and they forget they can't treat other adults like that while they're in "teacher mode".