Page 4 | To think sometimes people use words without fully understanding them?

Oodiks · 2024-10-09T21:34:37+00:00

There were a few examples in my previous AIBU thread. Including, but not limited to: [[https://www.oed.com/dictionary/genocide_n?tab=factsheet#3073666 Genocide]] [[https://www.oed.com/dictionary/anti-semitism_n?tab=factsheet#1281195 Antisemitism]] [[https://www.oed.com/dictionary/zionism_n?tab=factsheet#13691072 Zionism]] [[https://www.oed.com/dictionary/ethnic-cleansing_n?tab=factsheet#11256340 Ethnic Cleansing]] These are strong trigger words for many people, myself included, but I think they are often misused and/or misunderstood. Thoughts?

AgentJohnson · 10/10/2024 04:44

I find it weird when people claim someone is a narcissist and then go on to ask if a narcissist would do x, y and z. People can be shitty without being a narcissist but some on MN need shout narcissist to absolve them of their responsibility to put as much distance between them and the shitty behaviour.

There was an excellent piece on Woman’s Hour about narcissist mothers and how the overuse of the term undermines the experience of those growing up with narcissistic mothers.

ChampagneLassie · 10/10/2024 04:02

IceCreamIsTheDream · 09/10/2024 23:49

I have used all four of those very emotive words in the last year when discussing or reacting to, the horrors endured by thousands of innocent civilians, mainly children, in Gaza.

I understand the words very well. I am very clear on their meaning. I know fully well what I mean when I use those four words, and the intent behind my use of them.

If someone's opinion differs to mine, it does not mean I am ignorant or do not have a good grasp of language. It just means their opinion differs from mine. To suggest my difference of opinion is simply due to ignorence or incorrect language use is incredibly patronising!

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Oodiks · 10/10/2024 03:47

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 10/10/2024 03:33

Puerile

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I’m hurt. And we were all getting along so well.

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marshmallowfinder · 10/10/2024 03:41

Loose, thinking it means lose.

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 10/10/2024 03:36

ATenShun · 10/10/2024 02:35

Oops sorry I just put words up I did understand the meaning of.

But that's not how you are supposed to be playing this game!!
Honestly, you just can't get the PPs these days....
Wasn't like that in my day, etc, etc.....

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 10/10/2024 03:33

Oodiks · 10/10/2024 03:11

Oooh, you got me! Feel better about yourself now?

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Puerile

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 10/10/2024 03:23

ATenShun · 10/10/2024 02:54

Thank you. I will rewrite the sentence. Many use the term warmonger when describing Benjamin Netanyahu.

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Or you could use bellicist as a descriptor
Not quite synonymous, but close enough.
Both used correctly in your example

Grimgrump · 10/10/2024 03:21

Rickrolypoly · 09/10/2024 23:57

But you can literally die of embarrassment. The phrase means to be extremely embarrassed. So you can literally be extremely embarrassed.

www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/die-of-embarrassment-shame#:~:text=From%20Longman%20Dictionary%20of%20Contemporary,I%20just%20died%20of%20embarrassment.

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You can literally be embarrassed to the point of wishing for death. You can’t literally (actually) be dead from embarrassment. Where you place the ‘literally’ matters.

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 10/10/2024 03:19

ATenShun · 10/10/2024 03:06

''in this one I'm intentionally riffing off the previous one''

Riffing. Verb: to speak for a long time on a particular subject, especially in a humorous way.

Do let us know when the humorous part starts.

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🤣🤣
Take a bow!

ATenShun · 10/10/2024 03:12

Oodiks · 10/10/2024 03:11

Oooh, you got me! Feel better about yourself now?

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I feel truly amazing. Thank you for asking.

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Oodiks · 10/10/2024 03:11

ATenShun · 10/10/2024 03:06

''in this one I'm intentionally riffing off the previous one''

Riffing. Verb: to speak for a long time on a particular subject, especially in a humorous way.

Do let us know when the humorous part starts.

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Oooh, you got me! Feel better about yourself now?

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ATenShun · 10/10/2024 03:06

Oodiks · 10/10/2024 03:02

The poster was ascribing intention to my earlier post asking, "Did your last thread not go how you intended?"

I have already said, in that thread, that I did not have a particular intention in that thread.

Sure, in this one I'm intentionally riffing off the previous one, and if people want to come at me from the previous thread, I'm likely to respond, but I'm also enjoying the responses that are not related to it.

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''in this one I'm intentionally riffing off the previous one''

Riffing. Verb: to speak for a long time on a particular subject, especially in a humorous way.

Do let us know when the humorous part starts.

particular

1. special, or this and not any other: 2. especially: 3. not easily satisfied…

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/particular

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Oodiks · 10/10/2024 03:02

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 10/10/2024 02:24

You accuse the poster of ascribing intention, deny it, then do precisely what the PP said you were doing - using this post as an excuse to expound your views on the situation in the Middle East.
Rather transparent

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The poster was ascribing intention to my earlier post asking, "Did your last thread not go how you intended?"

I have already said, in that thread, that I did not have a particular intention in that thread.

Sure, in this one I'm intentionally riffing off the previous one, and if people want to come at me from the previous thread, I'm likely to respond, but I'm also enjoying the responses that are not related to it.

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PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 10/10/2024 03:00

Here's a word: Propaganda
noun

The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.
Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause.
"wartime propaganda."

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 10/10/2024 02:59

username3678 · 10/10/2024 01:46

You need to learn the meaning of genocide.

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

Killing members of the group;
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

As you know, the Israeli government have stated their intention to destroy Gaza and have killed members of the group, caused serious harm to the group and inflicted conditions calculated to bring about its destruction.

Nowhere does it mention numbers needed to qualify. Now don't pretend you don't know what it means because it's been explained a few times to you already and that would be disengenuous.

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Sadly, @username3678 , you'll no doubt get a very defensive response to this factual and excellent reply.

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Oodiks · 10/10/2024 02:56

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 10/10/2024 02:20

Oh, OP, how disappointingly predictable!
Not interested in words others have suggested, just want to discuss those 'coincidentally' inflammatory words?

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I've responded to many posts about words people have suggested, I was just a bit non-plussed by that first pair of words.

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ATenShun · 10/10/2024 02:55

ElleneAsanto · 10/10/2024 02:53

Risible.

Insomniacs arguing on a minor chat forum to no constructive purpose whatsoever.

Edited - sp - damn.

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😂😂😂Fair point.

ATenShun · 10/10/2024 02:54

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 10/10/2024 02:51

Warmongerer is not a word, it's warmonger

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Thank you. I will rewrite the sentence. Many use the term warmonger when describing Benjamin Netanyahu.

ElleneAsanto · 10/10/2024 02:53

Risible.

Insomniacs arguing on a minor chat forum to no constructive purpose whatsoever.

Edited - sp - damn.

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 10/10/2024 02:51

ATenShun · 10/10/2024 02:35

Warmongerer. Use in a sentence: A great many consider Benjamin Netanyahu to be a warmongerer based on his aggressive stance against Gaza.

Victimhood. Use in a sentence: Some people use a false sense of victimhood to attempt to claim the moral high ground while carrying out the same crimes they claim were perpetuated on them.

Warmongerer is not a word, it's warmonger

maverickfox · 10/10/2024 02:51

MissPeaches · 10/10/2024 02:15

I don’t find it particularly confusing as the context usually makes the intended meaning clear. But I do find it annoying! Not as annoying as when someone uses “myself” instead of “me” but close.

Another pet peeve of mine is nauseous/nauseated. Something nauseous can make you feel nauseated but you can’t actually feel nauseous.

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This is a dictionary definition of nauseous

affected with nausea; feeling inclined to vomit.
"a rancid odour that made him nauseous"

vomit meaning - Google Search

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=609f3e555a5e0eba&hl=en-gb&sxsrf=ADLYWIItI_Ha9g7gDv7Ul6F_4KOspeYjAA:1728524854005&q=vomit&si=ACC90nwXlEU2j3qee_ajN1FbIPWBaTC1G0oPQJPzlOCw57far62qSoXa3KQswp-5_e5RWpW5kXW2lbtlcNJ0z9apoc-SQzfMzA%3D%3D&expnd=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiF7qHv2IKJAxVjQ0EAHXmuH0AQyecJegQIKRAQ

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 10/10/2024 02:49

Oodiks · 10/10/2024 02:42

ichundich · Yesterday 23:15
Did your last thread not go how you intended? What is happening in Gaza right now meets the definition of 'genocide'.

ichundich brought Gaza into this thread, I guess you think that, like Israel, I shouldn't defend myself?

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Oh my good god!
How disingenuous! Your OP used 4 emotive wods, all of which were fiercely debated on your last thread, as an excuse to start another 'debate' then don't like it when you are called out.
As I said in a previous post, transparent
And dearie, Israel is no more 'defending' itself than I'm playing Backgammon on the moon.

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Oodiks · 10/10/2024 02:48

LBFseBrom · 10/10/2024 02:29

Yes!

skateboarding

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Skateboarding? Who uses 'skateboarding' wrong and how?

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Oodiks · 10/10/2024 02:44

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 10/10/2024 02:34

Why not just be honest and say this post is really about, but it is being derailed by people trying to answer the original title?

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I'm loving the 'derailment'; it's far more entertaining than arguing with you.

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Oodiks · 10/10/2024 02:42

PleaseAskSomeoneWhoGivesAFuck · 10/10/2024 02:24

You accuse the poster of ascribing intention, deny it, then do precisely what the PP said you were doing - using this post as an excuse to expound your views on the situation in the Middle East.
Rather transparent

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ichundich · Yesterday 23:15
Did your last thread not go how you intended? What is happening in Gaza right now meets the definition of 'genocide'.

ichundich brought Gaza into this thread, I guess you think that, like Israel, I shouldn't defend myself?

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