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naomimn · 09/10/2024 21:49

Question for those who have done IVF

I had my first round at this clinic, 13 eggs retrieved with only 8 mature... of them 2 made it to day 5 blastocyst. I tested PGTA non euploid and one ended in a miscarriage.

Round 2. Different protocol. Of 20 follicles only 7 eggs retrieved. Waiting to hear back on fertilisation and development.

I'm 29 so for my age should be better results.
It's a well known clinic in London, one of the big ones.

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naomimn · 10/10/2024 08:20

amothersinstinct · 10/10/2024 07:02

How long have you been trying with unexplained infertility? Your results don't sound that "bad" I think the problem is that most clinics are not particularly honest about expectations when it comes to IVF - they really only expect to get one blastocyst to transfer and maybe one to freeze at best they just don't want to tell you that when you are spending a lot of money/ going through the trauma of treatment.

What protocol were you on both times? What was your AMH? What size were your follicles when they did the trigger? That's all really important to understand if your result was as or worse than expected?

Also why did you PGTA at age 29 with only 2 blastocysts - also really unusual? Was that your request or did the clinic push that? Highly unusual unless you have a history of a LOT of miscarriages but even then PGTA isn't rated that highly by the HFEA

Thank you so much for a detailed response!!

How long have you been trying with unexplained infertility?
About a year before starting IVF. Since then two rounds with about 2 months in between them because I went travelling.

What protocol were you on both times?
Menopur and Gonal F low doses first time round (don't remember exact)
Menopur 450iu second time round

What was your AMH?
13

What size were your follicles when they did the trigger?
I don't know. Should I have asked? Please could you explain a little more about this?

Also why did you PGTA at age 29 with only 2 blastocysts - also really unusual? Was that your request or did the clinic push that?
I guess I really didn't want miscarriages or give myself false hope, would rather pay the fee for it than waste months and go through miscarriage. Clinic explained the option and I agreed to it.

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Worldgonecrazy · 10/10/2024 07:06

Have you discussed ICSI to try and increase the number of mature eggs developing to blastocyst? This worked for me, plus metformin during early pregnancy to reduce increased risk of miscarriage due to PCOS.

A good clinic will consider what areas can be worked on for the next round, though a lot is luck.

H I’ll e you get your miracle.

amothersinstinct · 10/10/2024 07:02

How long have you been trying with unexplained infertility? Your results don't sound that "bad" I think the problem is that most clinics are not particularly honest about expectations when it comes to IVF - they really only expect to get one blastocyst to transfer and maybe one to freeze at best they just don't want to tell you that when you are spending a lot of money/ going through the trauma of treatment.

What protocol were you on both times? What was your AMH? What size were your follicles when they did the trigger? That's all really important to understand if your result was as or worse than expected?

Also why did you PGTA at age 29 with only 2 blastocysts - also really unusual? Was that your request or did the clinic push that? Highly unusual unless you have a history of a LOT of miscarriages but even then PGTA isn't rated that highly by the HFEA

idrinkandknowthings · 10/10/2024 06:16

naomimn · 09/10/2024 22:33

@Latenightreader @CurbsideProphet yes I had a full review with the consultant in that they said "the result is bad, let's try you on different drugs" after the first, so my protocol was changed before the second.

@idrinkandknowthings unexplained infertility! Although every consultant that has ever seen DH's sperm results has said they're very very good so guessing it's a female issue.

Okay, so the unexplained bit makes me think you should stick at it with the clinic. As shit as it is, IVF rarely works the first time and you don't actually know how this cycle has gone yet. The clinic have done a good thing in reviewing and changing things up - my consultant told me that the first cycle is to see how your body 'reacts'.

I totally get the impatience of it all, as though you have to take control of 'something' and I think that's what you're doing, I did the same. After my first 4 cycles I asked what other tests could be done and I was offered 'Chicago tests' and these uncovered what my issues were and my protocol was changed to match that, I had my little boy on the 6th go.

I know '6 cycles' isn't what you want to hear, and I'm not saying that you will need that or that this second cycle won't have worked, god I really really hope it does, but that IVF is a 'try and see approach' for everyone.

DoYouReally · 09/10/2024 23:29

I mean this kindly but you have only two rounds and you don't even know the outcome of the second round yet and they also changed the drugs from the first time.

Give it time and be kind to yourself.

It's a draining process and really individual to each person.

I know the reasons for my issues and I think it a lot of ways that makes it easier. When it's unexplained it's more difficult.

I really hope you get the outcome you want.

Ella31 · 09/10/2024 22:40

Don't have experience in this area but didn't want to read and run. Wish you every bit of luck in your journey xx

naomimn · 09/10/2024 22:33

@Latenightreader @CurbsideProphet yes I had a full review with the consultant in that they said "the result is bad, let's try you on different drugs" after the first, so my protocol was changed before the second.

@idrinkandknowthings unexplained infertility! Although every consultant that has ever seen DH's sperm results has said they're very very good so guessing it's a female issue.

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idrinkandknowthings · 09/10/2024 22:13

I was 23 for my first cycle. All my cycles rendered differing results, finally gave birth when I was 28. What started off as MFI ended up being MFI & every gene mutation and blood condition for me! What's the reason for IVF?

CurbsideProphet · 09/10/2024 22:04

I'm really sorry you're going through this. IVF is just grim. Have you had a full review with a Consultant?

Latenightreader · 09/10/2024 22:01

I had similar results in Manchester - almost identical for the first (13, 5, 2) and fewer for the second. Did your clinic change anything drug wise for the second? I had different drugs and my second frozen transfer worked.

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