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to expect dd to open up and explain her ways /odd behaviours

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ForZanyMember · 09/10/2024 21:18

DD 15 wonderful in many ways I guess however some of her lifestyle habits concern me a little.

I understand we are all unique. She is nothing like I was at her age which of course is not a bad thing however I do worry that everything is okay. She is quiet by nature and probably the opposite to typical 15 year old girl in that she has zero interest in shopping, clothes, girly things, boys, makeup e.t.c. for me she actually spends an UNHEALTHY amount of time studying/doing homework. Along with this she has what I would say are quite unusual interests for a 15 year old girl. She is obsessed with certain topics such as biology, history and geography. She watches documentaries on these topics on a daily basis in her room with a notepad taking notes. She is also really into what I can only describe as strange programs that involve midwifery/nursing/human biology/baby making/ all things to do pregnancy. She also watches documentaries on deprived areas and troubled youths.

Maybe I'm overthinking things but I just really don't understand where these interests come from and why she spends so much of her time studying these topics. I am just a little concerned that's all. I would image most 15 year old girls spend their time out with their friends and stuff doing teenage activities.

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Nat6999 · 10/10/2024 00:36

Your dd sounds very much like my ds, he was watching stuff about politics, nuclear war, people escaping from North Korea & China, Air Crash Investigations from being about 12.

LockedJaw · 10/10/2024 00:35

She sounds a bit like me. I used to spend hours poring over maps, reading books about history and medicine, and quite a few books about human rights (Holocaust, Tiananmen Square, FGM, international child abduction) and yeah, sometimes biology and pregnancy. I went to a girls school but never really had a cohesive girl group. Fundamentally I was and still am a bit kooky and maybe intense, but I’ve got loads of friends and I’m quite a successful adult with a well paid job and a lovely fiancé. Chances are she’ll be fine.

Violinist64 · 10/10/2024 00:33

ForZanyMember · 09/10/2024 21:31

I am not certain if she is happy and content I only hope she is. She says she "doesn't mind" school, in parents evening teachers always give amazing feedback and say she even is brilliant at helping and assisting with other students helping to explain the work. She has a very small circle of friends and they are not all girls which I find a little odd, not the fact that she has guy friends the fact that the majority of her friends are not girls it's around 50/50 I would say

What is unusual or wrong in a 50/50 boy/girl friendship group? I would have thought it was perfectly healthy at this age. I was similar to your daughter at fifteen, with several interests, but with music being the overriding and intense passion. I enjoyed the pop music of the time to a certain extent, but it was always classical music that was my true love. My daughter was the same. I would far rather this than silly, giggling girls with nothing more in their heads than clothes, makeup, pop music, boys and shopping. She is obviously academically able with an enquiring mind and should do well at university when she is older, which is where I suspect she will find her tribe and make lifelong friends with like minded people. This made what happened to my daughter and myself. Indeed, l still have several friends from my music college days forty years ago.

TSMWEL · 10/10/2024 00:25

curtaintwitcher78 · 10/10/2024 00:05

Edina and Saffron.

Oh you've nailed it

Didoqueenofcarthage · 10/10/2024 00:24

I think your daughter sounds a bit intense, but teenagers often are. Nothing troubling, or requiring an "explanation". I don't think you should expect her to explain herself to you.

When I was 15, I was the same. I preferred reading, and learning about history, geography, etc. I liked to dive deep into my favourite topics, and could spend hours on the internet doing research every day. I had no interest in make-up or boys. I preferred documentaries to romance novels, and never watched popular TV shows aimed at teenagers. I frankly thought my interests were far more interesting than the prosaic pursuits of most other people. I had a small group of friends. I didn't get into trouble. I didn't experience heartbreak or low self-esteem. I didn't have anxiety. I'm not neurodivergent. I knew my own mind, kept my own counsel, and I didn't care what other people thought.

I also had a lot of growing up to do, and lot of emotional maturity still to attain. But again, that's normal for a teenager. All 15 year olds still need to grow up, to come to terms with the "real world", to adjust. But your daughter sounds fine.

I did incredibly well academically in high school, and then in university. I had my first boyfriend in university, met my husband in university (to whom I am still very happily married after 15 years, and with whom I've had some amazing times travelling the world together and now parenting two, soon to be three, children). I have a very well-paid job which I enjoy, and live a very happy and comfortable life.

My mother didn't "get me" either, but I didn't (and still don't) think of that as my problem. That's her problem for being narrow-minded.

temperedolive · 10/10/2024 00:20

I don't even understand how one could explain an interest in a way that's satisfactory to someone who doesn't share it. I'm not interested in football. DP has all these stats memorized, talks sbout it with his friends for hours and faithfully supports his team like it matters, and all I'm ever going to see is a bunch of blokes running around in shorts. Likewise, I love small-batch independent perfumeries. I have a huge collection, keep meticulous spreadsheets and am active on a sub reddit devoted to them. All DP gets from it is smelly oils. We like what we like because we like it.

I also think your understanding of modern teenagers is a bit outdated. It's very common now to have a mixed-sex friend group and niche interests. I'm a teacher and I'd say the number of my female students who are truly interested in fashion or make-up are very much a minority. Out of the most popular girls I know, one is very into Asian food TikToks, another is devoted to American politics and a third loves old-school atari games. They like what they like.

MetalGearSystem · 10/10/2024 00:17

bottom line if the world had a lot more of your dd, then it would be alot more advanced both technology and interpersonal ect

since1986 · 10/10/2024 00:16

pizzaHeart · 09/10/2024 23:58

I think you are right to be a bit concerned. It looks like your DD is obsessed with some sort of ideas so I personally would like to know what they are. They might be right and amazing ideas but as a parent you want to know. You don’t want her to pack suddenly for Africa at 16. ( at least I wouldn’t)
Also maybe she struggles a bit with social side of life and as a result she hasn’t invited to parties/ shopping trips/ general hanging out together. So then why would she need make up if she spends all time at home doing h/w? I think it’s not an easy skill to be good with clothes and make up and studies at the same time in your teenage years. And some of girls need more time or extra help to get it all together. Of course there is always an option that she is not bothered about some things for ethical/ environmental reasons, which is fine by the way but I would expect you to know about it. If she is not opening up I wonder if her views are too opposite to yours and she’s not sure in your reaction.

Wth are you on about? 'more time' to 'get it together'. Do jog on. You do realise most girls with more than 20 braincells these days who stay off tiktok couldnt give much of a toss about getting it 'right' with make-up and clothes?

Do you realise how grim your post sounds?

since1986 · 10/10/2024 00:13

curtaintwitcher78 · 10/10/2024 00:05

Edina and Saffron.

Spot on.

curtaintwitcher78 · 10/10/2024 00:05

Edina and Saffron.

pizzaHeart · 09/10/2024 23:58

I think you are right to be a bit concerned. It looks like your DD is obsessed with some sort of ideas so I personally would like to know what they are. They might be right and amazing ideas but as a parent you want to know. You don’t want her to pack suddenly for Africa at 16. ( at least I wouldn’t)
Also maybe she struggles a bit with social side of life and as a result she hasn’t invited to parties/ shopping trips/ general hanging out together. So then why would she need make up if she spends all time at home doing h/w? I think it’s not an easy skill to be good with clothes and make up and studies at the same time in your teenage years. And some of girls need more time or extra help to get it all together. Of course there is always an option that she is not bothered about some things for ethical/ environmental reasons, which is fine by the way but I would expect you to know about it. If she is not opening up I wonder if her views are too opposite to yours and she’s not sure in your reaction.

whiteboardking · 09/10/2024 23:56

A lot of people would love a child like this. They'll go far

RedToothBrush · 09/10/2024 23:56

ForZanyMember · 09/10/2024 21:31

I am not certain if she is happy and content I only hope she is. She says she "doesn't mind" school, in parents evening teachers always give amazing feedback and say she even is brilliant at helping and assisting with other students helping to explain the work. She has a very small circle of friends and they are not all girls which I find a little odd, not the fact that she has guy friends the fact that the majority of her friends are not girls it's around 50/50 I would say

WHAT IS YOUR ACTUAL PROBLEM?!

Genuinely?

I'm not sure she's the odd one here.

Saschka · 09/10/2024 23:46

ForZanyMember · 09/10/2024 23:08

I haven't accused her of being gay or bi. It wouldn't be a problem in any way I couldn't care less honestly.

I feel like a lot of people here are getting the wrong of the stick about me here, I don't want a girly girl who is into makeup and boys or her to be like me. I just want her to be herself and be happy. My concern simply comes about from behaviour I noticed that made me question "is that healthy" and "is everything okay with her" not things like "why is she wierd" or "what's wrong with her"

You literally use the words “weird”, “strange” and “odd” to describe her interests and behaviours. We aren’t getting this from nowhere.

SapphireSeptember · 09/10/2024 23:36

Leave the poor girl alone! I love learning about history! Watched Time Team with my mum, The World at War by myself and did GCSE history. At 15 I was holed up in my room listening to Evanescence on repeat and writing some frankly quite disturbing poetry.

TSMWEL · 09/10/2024 23:33

ForZanyMember · 09/10/2024 23:08

I haven't accused her of being gay or bi. It wouldn't be a problem in any way I couldn't care less honestly.

I feel like a lot of people here are getting the wrong of the stick about me here, I don't want a girly girl who is into makeup and boys or her to be like me. I just want her to be herself and be happy. My concern simply comes about from behaviour I noticed that made me question "is that healthy" and "is everything okay with her" not things like "why is she wierd" or "what's wrong with her"

What about what she's doing makes you think she's unhappy? She has friends, she's interested in lots of things, she clearly has an aptitude for learning and is doing well at school.

What are the specific red flags that are giving you concern? Because an interest in biology and having male friends as well as female are not red flags. She sounds like a well rounded young woman unless there's something else you're not telling us.

Gagaandgag · 09/10/2024 23:33

Why do you keep calling your daughter odd? What’s wrong with having male friends?
I honestly don't see why you are worried?! She sounds fantastic

Katielovesteatime · 09/10/2024 23:29

Another thing about being 15 is that the world is your oyster! You can be anyone you want to be. There are almost no limits at that age - at least it feels that way. I remember that feeling. So exciting and hopeful! She might just be exploring the nursing/midwifery thing as it's something that really interests her and she's wondering if she might like to do it as a job one day. Teens explore things, it's so healthy and normal. I can't believe you're worried about this.

As for having male and female friends - again, so?! I also did at this age, and still do!

It sounds like you've got your idea about what a 15 year old girl should be like from a cheerleader in an American teen high school movie and you're panicking because she's a normal human instead.

MetalGearSystem · 09/10/2024 23:28

ForZanyMember · 09/10/2024 23:08

I haven't accused her of being gay or bi. It wouldn't be a problem in any way I couldn't care less honestly.

I feel like a lot of people here are getting the wrong of the stick about me here, I don't want a girly girl who is into makeup and boys or her to be like me. I just want her to be herself and be happy. My concern simply comes about from behaviour I noticed that made me question "is that healthy" and "is everything okay with her" not things like "why is she wierd" or "what's wrong with her"

the bottom line is if she wants to study and seems happy then shes happy etc at least thats how id interpret it

Heavier · 09/10/2024 23:28

ForZanyMember · 09/10/2024 23:21

No I haven't asked her. I don't want to come across as judgemental that I'm judging her

I didn’t really mean have you asked her why she watches those programmes but more could you have a discussion where she tells you about something she’s watched. Doing this might help you to understand her & her likes more. There must be reason she chooses to watch the programme and she might explain that if you are having a general chat about it. For example, it could be linked to a career she wants to go into. Both my DC have career ideas and they haven’t taken any secondary exams yet. They may not end up doing that but they have hopes and plans (that are a mixture of realistic and unrealistic!).

Katielovesteatime · 09/10/2024 23:24

None of that is odd? Like everyone, all teens are different. They like different things. When I was a teenager my passions were military history, 21st century Europe and sociology. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that it's very normal and healthy for teenagers to explore the world in more detail at this age and start to dive deeper into different interests, picking up more as they discover them. Would you prefer she was out smoking behind bike sheds and chugging cheap vodka in the park?

ForZanyMember · 09/10/2024 23:21

Heavier · 09/10/2024 23:13

I had a mixed friendship group at that age. I probably was closer to one girl but I had a lot of male friends too. I actually think that’s better as an all girl friendship group can be quite bitchy. I wouldn’t see this as being that unusual.
My DD is very studious and that doesn’t concern me, I feel lucky.
She is however into mindless Netflix dramas & is very influenced in terms of clothes & make up by what’s being pushed on TikTok so perhaps more of a typical teen than your DD.
Some of the things she watches do sound a little unusual. Have you asked her about it?

Edited

No I haven't asked her. I don't want to come across as judgemental that I'm judging her

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ForZanyMember · 09/10/2024 23:20

Oodiks · 09/10/2024 23:11

Is she pregnant and trying to figure out what life will be like for her and the child if you kick them out to live in poverty?

No she not pregnant.

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Startingagainandagain · 09/10/2024 23:18

A lot of stereotypes in your posts, OP.

Not every girl is into superficial stuff like make-up or shopping....that doe not make someone 'odd'.

It is bizarre as well that you expect her to justify the fact that she has her own interests and personalty.

Frankly she sounds like a smart teen with a mind of her own, while you come across as a bit, well, dim.

Stop trying to make your daughter into someone she is not.

PrincessScarlett · 09/10/2024 23:17

OP, your daughter sounds absolutely wonderful. There is nothing wrong with studying, watching documentaries, having opinions and interests or being friends with the opposite sex.

You seem to hold very stereotypical views of teenage girls which are actually quite insulting and do nothing for encouraging equality of the sexes.