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To be glad that people are realising the effects of filler!

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GentleOliveFatball · 09/10/2024 19:50

Just that really. It's been advertised by the media, plastic surgeons and the beauty industry for years as a safe, temporary procedure, however evidence is now finding that that is not the case at all!
I'm glad the truth is coming out now although it's still so new I expect we won't know the full damage for years too come.

I also found this video particularly interesting if anyone else is interested:

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soupfiend · 10/10/2024 09:11

HollyLollyMollyJolly · 10/10/2024 08:26

Or so you think. How would you know that nobody could tell? It's not as if they'd tell you about it. It's usually very obvious - just that a few people look nicer afterwards but most look awful or very typically filled and botoxed - which is a specific way most people seem to look afterwards.

Its not always possible to tell, someone at work had some filler as she had lost weight and aged anyway during that time and I was amazed when she said she had filler.

Its not obvious and as someone else has posted some photos of chins that have been improved, that wouldnt be obvious either if you didnt know them before they had the work done.

KateMiskin · 10/10/2024 09:10

@soupfiend That's rather a bizarre excuse for not trying to stay healthy
Everybody gets cancer anyway so you might as well smoke, drink and be obese!

offyoujollywelltrot · 10/10/2024 09:08

biglipslittleblips · 10/10/2024 07:23

@PepaWepa
@offyoujollywelltrot
@KendraTheVampyrSlayer

So you don't have any stats or actual evidence of filler causing cancer but are ok with alcohol?

Alcohol is KNOWN to cause cancer. So I guess none of you drink alcohol. It would be peculiar to avoid something that has no actual cancer risk evidence whilst happily partaking in something known to increase the risks of cancer 😑

www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/alcohol-and-cancer/how-does-alcohol-cause-cancer

I don't drink. I also don't smoke. I don't vape. I think all three should be banned. HTH.

KateMiskin · 10/10/2024 09:07

@moonplop you are not wrong about alcohol and UPF but that is a massive and complex problem to fix!

soupfiend · 10/10/2024 09:07

KateMiskin · 10/10/2024 08:15

I don't do any things known to cause cancer. I don't drink or smoke and my BMI is below 25 though I could lose half a stone.
The reason I have never got fillers isn't anything to do with cancer though. I have other reasons.

Well you're living arent you? That is known to cause cancer

moonplop · 10/10/2024 09:04

I get filler. I am aware of the risks and it's worth it to me. Everyone needs to make their own choices. I do however, find it strange that people are frothing over filler when alcohol is a group 1 carcinogen and also causes cancer (especially hormonal based cancers) and yet alcohol is available in every corner shop, supermarkets and petrol stations.

My point is, if you are looking at societal harm then alcohol should also be top of the list as its used far more widely than filler.

Grandmasswagbag · 10/10/2024 09:02

Some were v early 20s and could have been 40s. Some 40s possibly could have been 20s. They were all lumped together in this uncanny valley group.

This is the thing, exactly. Put more succinctly than me. I met someone recently through work who had had a lot done, quite good quality I imagine but I assumed she was at least 10 years older than me. I was so shocked to discover she was a year younger ! Mid 30s.

Ivymedication · 10/10/2024 08:58

I've really gone back and forth on getting it done.
I have really thin lips which I've always hated, and a downturned mouth which reads as grumpy bitch.
I've even paid for the assessment and found put what I "need", which obviously was a lot more than what I wanted.

But it's the expense/the cycle of needing it done/people obviously knowing I've suddenly gone up a lip size and now look happy all the time.

I was recently at am event with DH, it was very much a wives and girlfriends tag along. The men were from 18 to 60 odd with plus ones.
It was so odd.

The men generally looked their age but especially amongst the younger women, so many had fillers that I had no idea how old they were. Some were v early 20s and could have been 40s. Some 40s possibly could have been 20s. They were all lumped together in this uncanny valley group.

It was only when we sat for dinner did you get a rough estimate of their age as they sat down beside their partner who was easier to gauge (Obviously age difference relationships exist but I couldn't add that to the mix, far too complex)

So I think I'm off the filler train again and back to acceptance and skincare.

sonofrageandlove · 10/10/2024 08:58

HollyLollyMollyJolly · 10/10/2024 08:26

Or so you think. How would you know that nobody could tell? It's not as if they'd tell you about it. It's usually very obvious - just that a few people look nicer afterwards but most look awful or very typically filled and botoxed - which is a specific way most people seem to look afterwards.

Exactly, everyone can tell they are just too polite to say it looks tacky

Pandasodium · 10/10/2024 08:52

Who would have thought having a questionable substance injected by people with minimal training might carry some risks? It's a shame people feel the risk is worthwhile when it invariably also looks awful.

Jessie1259 · 10/10/2024 08:49

It's so sad. People need to fix their self esteem not their faces.

Toastyfeetbythefire · 10/10/2024 08:47

Augustus40 · 10/10/2024 08:07

I have had it done three times but don't fancy it done again. I just had a low amount of filler each time. I looked fresher but nobody could tell.

I know people who have had it and look awful and of course i would never tell them. I don’t think they realise that they look awful and am sure they think they look great.
It’s hard to see yourself objectively.
Also what looks nice when you’re looking at your relaxed face in the mirror doesn’t always look nice when your face is animated. My best friend looks great when her face isn’t moving. The moment she smiles it sadly looks awful around her eyes and nose.
I wouldn’t dream of telling her 😩

Augustus40 · 10/10/2024 08:42

I did it to soften lines but my skin is very good anyway. I have got put off since the aesthetician in ject ed small amount around my lips too. A year later I used an exfoliator from Aldi and ever since then I have the Tyndall effect ie faint hue of blue in light so I have to use concealer under my make-up or it really shows. Was unlucky I guess. Two years later not faded either! She was a practising private dentist too. I did not fancy removing the lip filler more fiddling and faffing. Now I leave well alone. They say The Tyndall effect is very rare. It is literally only around the lip area. I bet it won't disappear for years!

Gummybear23 · 10/10/2024 08:41

biglipslittleblips · 10/10/2024 08:13

@Gummybear23

Yes, we know the risks with other substances and posters are saying that in future fillers will be similar.
'Posters'. You mean random people 😂
Bit dumb to freak out about something with no hard evidence of cancer risk whilst partaking in things that do have hard evidence don't ya think?

In other words, stop doing things KNOWN to cause cancer before fretting about other people doing things that aren't known to cause cancer.

It is an industry that is spinning off peoples insecurities.

There is always a risk of injecting anything into your body.

Of course people should avoid known carcinogenic like smoking.

However, evwryone should also avoid unknown risks such as fillers.

Besides the fact everyone looks morphed and It screams insecurity.

The impact on mental health as a result of this insecurity is horrific.

Stop the fillers and embrace your natural beauty.
Don't fall for this awful industry.

Ginmonkeyagain · 10/10/2024 08:36

Those young women with sore looking rubbery lips freak me out.

happybee1 · 10/10/2024 08:32

fashionqueen0123 · 09/10/2024 21:32

it makes people look older that’s what I find bizarre. It’s like 25 year olds looking like they’re in their late 40s because you can see they’ve had work done.

This! I wish there wasn’t so much unrealistic expectation put on people, particularly women, to look a certain way. Young women , that have it, definitely end up looking older. It does look obvious and make people look strange. I wish there was more of a push to embrace natural beauty, acceptance and aging, which is natural, but that doesn’t make industry large amounts of money 🙄!

HollyLollyMollyJolly · 10/10/2024 08:26

Augustus40 · 10/10/2024 08:07

I have had it done three times but don't fancy it done again. I just had a low amount of filler each time. I looked fresher but nobody could tell.

Or so you think. How would you know that nobody could tell? It's not as if they'd tell you about it. It's usually very obvious - just that a few people look nicer afterwards but most look awful or very typically filled and botoxed - which is a specific way most people seem to look afterwards.

BanksysSprayCan · 10/10/2024 08:23

GentleOliveFatball · 09/10/2024 20:33

I know the video is quite long, so here's some key points in case anyone is interested but can't watch the video 🙂

Filler doesn't dissovle, however it can migrate which I think is pretty frightening personally. Theres MRI scans that show this.

Heres some information I found on the potential side affects from the British Association of Aesthetic Plastic Surgeons
"Hyaluronic acid – the key compound in most fillers – has been found to block lymphatic channels, which help the body drain fluid and are a key part of the immune system that helps to fight disease. Research is now being planned to see if the treatment affects the risk of diseases including cancer. Fillers have also been linked to cysts, lumps, swelling and facial pain."

Many filler injections are not done by fully qualified professionals and have low sanitation standards. There is no mandatory training needed to buy or inject lip fillers.

I completely understand that not everyone cares and it's your choice what you do with your body, however I do think this information should be made available to everyone so it can be an informed decision at least. (Similar to smoking/vaping I suppose)

This is an important message.

Gretagarbaled · 10/10/2024 08:22

I saw a picture of a scan of a face with fillers, that stuff had migrated everywhere. I think it's insanity to inject this stuff into your face and it never looks good. I was at the dentist yesterday, all the young receptionists had face/lip fillers, they all look awful and much older than they are and none of them could give me any actual advice when I had a dental emergency last week.

merrymelodies · 10/10/2024 08:18

Thanks for posting this. I'm 60 and have thinking about getting some work done... a bit of filler here and there. I assumed filler gradually dissolved to be excreted through the kidneys. Now I know better!

KateMiskin · 10/10/2024 08:15

I don't do any things known to cause cancer. I don't drink or smoke and my BMI is below 25 though I could lose half a stone.
The reason I have never got fillers isn't anything to do with cancer though. I have other reasons.

biglipslittleblips · 10/10/2024 08:13

@Gummybear23

Yes, we know the risks with other substances and posters are saying that in future fillers will be similar.
'Posters'. You mean random people 😂
Bit dumb to freak out about something with no hard evidence of cancer risk whilst partaking in things that do have hard evidence don't ya think?

In other words, stop doing things KNOWN to cause cancer before fretting about other people doing things that aren't known to cause cancer.

biglipslittleblips · 10/10/2024 08:10

HarrietTheFireStarter · 10/10/2024 08:00

Recently I was in Thailand and it was awash with cosmetic surgery tourists, many of whom looked ridiculous, almost comical. It blows my mind that anyone would choose to make themselves look so awful.

Of course they looked bad. They would literally be recovering from the surgery. It takes months to settle and about 2 years to get to the completely settled state. But weird to look at people who have had surgery days prior and think they look bad

Augustus40 · 10/10/2024 08:07

I have had it done three times but don't fancy it done again. I just had a low amount of filler each time. I looked fresher but nobody could tell.

JustJoinedRightNow · 10/10/2024 08:04

GreengrassofW · 10/10/2024 07:30

I want something done to my face just not this. Has anyone had face acupuncture?

Yep I've had it, it's fantastic. It helps relax the tightness in my face and forehead which is where I hold most of my stress (I frown a lot).