Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To be glad that people are realising the effects of filler!

187 replies

GentleOliveFatball · 09/10/2024 19:50

Just that really. It's been advertised by the media, plastic surgeons and the beauty industry for years as a safe, temporary procedure, however evidence is now finding that that is not the case at all!
I'm glad the truth is coming out now although it's still so new I expect we won't know the full damage for years too come.

I also found this video particularly interesting if anyone else is interested:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/Su0Az7hp9x4?si=sSS9PgdD1S3Uqldd

OP posts:
Thread gallery
7
PepaWepa · 10/10/2024 18:48

Gummybear23 · 10/10/2024 18:17

💯
I wouldn't be surprised if @biglipslittleblips has a vested interest in the filler.market so is prepared to.defend their income no.matter what.

Sounds like it

ETA: agree with pp, it's not just about the cancer aspect. They look bloody awful. I can't understand the whole concept of so many people changes their faces to look like that.

Grandmasswagbag · 10/10/2024 18:46

Good lord. I've watched the video now. Really this stuff should be banned! Sounds absolutely awful and if it's really not dissolving then they are falsely advertising surely. Also the effects of having it dissolved sounds just a dangerous.

If we are comparing it to alcohol, I would say filler and Botox etc is definitely more like the crack cocaine of cosmetics. A short lasting result, addictive and dangerous. A few of my friends have started having Botox and they have all reported that they have then notice that it's made their eyelids saggy, so you're just creating yet another problem that the industry will have to fix for you. I do know a women who started on Botox really young and did have her eyelids surgically altered, so it's obviously a 'thing'. Seems absolute madness to me.

Gummybear23 · 10/10/2024 18:28

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 10/10/2024 18:15

You're over-focusing on the cancer aspect. That isn't the only reason most people won't have fillers. The main reason is that they're not insecure sheep. I don't get fillers because I know that they look crap and I don't need them. I like my face, my wrinkles and lines are proof of a life well lived.

Ageing is a gift that some people aren't lucky enough to experience. We should be embracing it not trying to pretend we're teenagers!

Edited

Xactlee

It also wrecks mental health of vulnerable people.
Of course the injectors who are making money from this industry will promote it till the end.
Bit like sunbed companies of the past.

Gummybear23 · 10/10/2024 18:17

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 10/10/2024 18:04

Strange logic, we're weird because we don't want to inject shit into our faces? I mean you do you. Personally I like my face to look human, thanks.

💯
I wouldn't be surprised if @biglipslittleblips has a vested interest in the filler.market so is prepared to.defend their income no.matter what.

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 10/10/2024 18:15

biglipslittleblips · 10/10/2024 07:25

I also hope you are all of a BMI of less than 25 as having any increase in body fat is also KNOWN to increase the risks of cancer

It would be churlish to worry about something that has no evidence of cancer beyond some random person saying it does when there is hard evidence that carrying any excess body fat WILL increase your risk of cancer

www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/bodyweight-and-cancer/how-does-obesity-cause-cancer#:~:text=A%20BMI%20of%2025%20or%20higher%20increases%20the%20risk%20of,take%20to%20reduce%20your%20risk.

You're over-focusing on the cancer aspect. That isn't the only reason most people won't have fillers. The main reason is that they're not insecure sheep. I don't get fillers because I know that they look crap and I don't need them. I like my face, my wrinkles and lines are proof of a life well lived.

Ageing is a gift that some people aren't lucky enough to experience. We should be embracing it not trying to pretend we're teenagers!

Gowlett · 10/10/2024 18:07

Fire away, anyone that wants it…
I like my face. Always have, TBH.

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 10/10/2024 18:04

biglipslittleblips · 10/10/2024 07:23

@PepaWepa
@offyoujollywelltrot
@KendraTheVampyrSlayer

So you don't have any stats or actual evidence of filler causing cancer but are ok with alcohol?

Alcohol is KNOWN to cause cancer. So I guess none of you drink alcohol. It would be peculiar to avoid something that has no actual cancer risk evidence whilst happily partaking in something known to increase the risks of cancer 😑

www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/alcohol-and-cancer/how-does-alcohol-cause-cancer

Strange logic, we're weird because we don't want to inject shit into our faces? I mean you do you. Personally I like my face to look human, thanks.

biglipslittleblips · 10/10/2024 15:32

@glittercunt in the context of 'everyone is beautiful' then yes. They were beautiful before.

In the context of what is generally found to be attractive/unattractive, recessive chins are universally cited as an undesirable physical trait.

PepaWepa · 10/10/2024 15:15

biglipslittleblips · 10/10/2024 07:23

@PepaWepa
@offyoujollywelltrot
@KendraTheVampyrSlayer

So you don't have any stats or actual evidence of filler causing cancer but are ok with alcohol?

Alcohol is KNOWN to cause cancer. So I guess none of you drink alcohol. It would be peculiar to avoid something that has no actual cancer risk evidence whilst happily partaking in something known to increase the risks of cancer 😑

www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/alcohol-and-cancer/how-does-alcohol-cause-cancer

Red wines contain a large array of polyphenolic constituents that have been shown to block carcinogenesis and to inhibit the growth of tumors in whole animals, or in cell culture by altering the activity of certain enzymes or the expression of specific genes.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2635702/#:~:text=Red%20wines%20contain%20a%20large,the%20expression%20of%20specific%20genes.

Just fyi. But like I said, I don't drink, so this isn't relevant to to me. But if you want to facts, there you go.

Red Wine Polyphenols for Cancer Prevention

Conventional cancer therapies, the second leading cause of death worldwide, result in serious side effects and, at best, merely extend the patient's lifespan by a few years. Searching for effective prevention is of high priority in both basic and clini...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2635702#:~:text=Red%20wines%20contain%20a%20large,the%20expression%20of%20specific%20genes.

glittercunt · 10/10/2024 15:08

biglipslittleblips · 09/10/2024 22:02

@AutumnalCosiness @SweetSakura

I guess we all think different things look good. I think these show a definite improvement

They were beautiful before.

PepaWepa · 10/10/2024 14:59

biglipslittleblips · 10/10/2024 07:25

I also hope you are all of a BMI of less than 25 as having any increase in body fat is also KNOWN to increase the risks of cancer

It would be churlish to worry about something that has no evidence of cancer beyond some random person saying it does when there is hard evidence that carrying any excess body fat WILL increase your risk of cancer

www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/bodyweight-and-cancer/how-does-obesity-cause-cancer#:~:text=A%20BMI%20of%2025%20or%20higher%20increases%20the%20risk%20of,take%20to%20reduce%20your%20risk.

Yes I'm a healthy weight and have a healthy BMI, thank you.

PepaWepa · 10/10/2024 14:55

biglipslittleblips · 10/10/2024 07:23

@PepaWepa
@offyoujollywelltrot
@KendraTheVampyrSlayer

So you don't have any stats or actual evidence of filler causing cancer but are ok with alcohol?

Alcohol is KNOWN to cause cancer. So I guess none of you drink alcohol. It would be peculiar to avoid something that has no actual cancer risk evidence whilst happily partaking in something known to increase the risks of cancer 😑

www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/alcohol-and-cancer/how-does-alcohol-cause-cancer

I didn't say I was okay with alcohol? I don't drink and actually hate the stuff. But the lady who commented wasn't comparing it to ALCOHOLISM, she compared it to a glass of wine. Which actually has been proven to have positive health benefits if drunk in small amounts, and can in absolutely NO WAY be compared to having filler shoved in your face.

Sparxdislike · 10/10/2024 13:35

My friend that's early 30's wants Botox. I did ask if she had seen it can gone wrong. I think people should be aware of pros and cons and make an informed choice . She wasn't aware and is thinking about it. I don't honestly think she needs them but it's her body and her choice 🤷‍♀️

ChanelBoucle · 10/10/2024 13:32

NameChangeUser183794639 · 10/10/2024 13:20

What's wrong with veneers? 😩

Nothing per se - I suspect the maker of the video is conflating veneers with crowns as so many people seem to!

NameChangeUser183794639 · 10/10/2024 13:20

BeardofHagrid · 09/10/2024 21:32

Lael Hansen is another anti filler YouTuber, I have been watching a couple of her videos lately and they are very well made. She has one video about veneers that is really interesting.

What's wrong with veneers? 😩

Badgerandfox227 · 10/10/2024 09:25

So many young women in their 20’s and 30’s are having it done and it makes them look 40+ instantly. It’s not for me, I just hope those that have it done don’t regret it

KateMiskin · 10/10/2024 09:24

soupfiend · 10/10/2024 09:23

Erm, Im not sure I said that did I? Where have I said everyone gets cancer and that you might as well smoke drink etc?

You said, you dont do anything that causes cancer, well living in general means you have a risk of cancer. Some other things that people do may or may not increase that risk, but we all have a risk of it, even people with clean lives (Im one of them)

Ok. I will do the best I can then. Short of giving up living.

soupfiend · 10/10/2024 09:23

KateMiskin · 10/10/2024 09:10

@soupfiend That's rather a bizarre excuse for not trying to stay healthy
Everybody gets cancer anyway so you might as well smoke, drink and be obese!

Erm, Im not sure I said that did I? Where have I said everyone gets cancer and that you might as well smoke drink etc?

You said, you dont do anything that causes cancer, well living in general means you have a risk of cancer. Some other things that people do may or may not increase that risk, but we all have a risk of it, even people with clean lives (Im one of them)

Pyjamatimenow · 10/10/2024 09:22

I think it’s not so bad if you’ve sagged but plumping up already plump young skin is madness. What I notice is that in older women it looks ok for that first few years and then it starts looking hard and mask like. Amanda Holden and Tess Daley are examples of this ( Amanda more so). I remember a couple of years ago DH saying about Tess whatever she had done is very good. This year I notice it all looks a lot harder. Idk whether it’s a build up of filler over time or putting more and more in but it’s def not looking natural

offyoujollywelltrot · 10/10/2024 09:19

Lostsadandconfused · 10/10/2024 09:16

I would take this whole clip with a grain of salt, given this photo of Sophie Monk (on the right) is fake.

If they’re using a fake photo as an example, I just can’t take this seriously.

Have you watched the video?

Lostsadandconfused · 10/10/2024 09:16

GentleOliveFatball · 09/10/2024 19:50

Just that really. It's been advertised by the media, plastic surgeons and the beauty industry for years as a safe, temporary procedure, however evidence is now finding that that is not the case at all!
I'm glad the truth is coming out now although it's still so new I expect we won't know the full damage for years too come.

I also found this video particularly interesting if anyone else is interested:

I would take this whole clip with a grain of salt, given this photo of Sophie Monk (on the right) is fake.

If they’re using a fake photo as an example, I just can’t take this seriously.

Gummybear23 · 10/10/2024 09:15

moonplop · 10/10/2024 09:04

I get filler. I am aware of the risks and it's worth it to me. Everyone needs to make their own choices. I do however, find it strange that people are frothing over filler when alcohol is a group 1 carcinogen and also causes cancer (especially hormonal based cancers) and yet alcohol is available in every corner shop, supermarkets and petrol stations.

My point is, if you are looking at societal harm then alcohol should also be top of the list as its used far more widely than filler.

Shame younger people are using fillers I.e in there 20s to fill an image they think society approves off.

It is low self esteem and plays havoc with mental health.

Of course everyone should avoid proven carcinogenics but also be extremely cautious of things of which we need time to tell.

offyoujollywelltrot · 10/10/2024 09:14

Newterm · 10/10/2024 09:13

I follow several injectors on nstagram. I find the whole thing fascinating. I’ve noticed that girls start with having their lips done. Then they get their chins ‘enhanced’ to balance out the profile. Then they have their nose injected and then have the jaw line added to.

It has a knock on effect, and it's addictive.

Newterm · 10/10/2024 09:13

I follow several injectors on nstagram. I find the whole thing fascinating. I’ve noticed that girls start with having their lips done. Then they get their chins ‘enhanced’ to balance out the profile. Then they have their nose injected and then have the jaw line added to.

offyoujollywelltrot · 10/10/2024 09:11

moonplop · 10/10/2024 09:04

I get filler. I am aware of the risks and it's worth it to me. Everyone needs to make their own choices. I do however, find it strange that people are frothing over filler when alcohol is a group 1 carcinogen and also causes cancer (especially hormonal based cancers) and yet alcohol is available in every corner shop, supermarkets and petrol stations.

My point is, if you are looking at societal harm then alcohol should also be top of the list as its used far more widely than filler.

Alcohol is poison.

You're free to get as many fillers as you like, but when it migrates and/or blocks your lymph nodes and you end up ill, you'll be sorry.