To be glad that people are realising the effects of filler!

I have a client who runs her own aesthetic clinic and uses Botox and filler heavily herself. She’s a mature woman in her personality and, I thought she was at least 38 when I first met her. Turns out she’s 27. The fillers and Botox have aged her - considerably.

I am not sure why people are staying it’s a status symbol? Where I live it’s definitely part of a look that is explicitly associated with poverty. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an affluent-looking woman with fillers. It’s like those extremely long eyelashes or orange tan.

IMO this makes it even worse. Such a waste of money, for women who don’t have much money to begin with. It’s taking advantage of them.

I don’t understand the appeal if I’m honest. It doesn’t make you look younger or more attractive - just alien-like and also rather insecure and shallow (neither of which are attractive traits!) Why not just grow older, wrinkles and all?

Whether or not it leads to cancer will not be determined overnight, as per the link to alcohol which has been around a whole lot longer - however, blocking the lymphatic system of the face (hint: close to the brain and major lymph channels) is never a good idea.

You are right I'm very passionate about potential risks and lack of available information regarding this industry.

I am interested in vulnerable people being emotionally forced into making decisions to fit in.

This industry is about exploiting people's vulnerabilities.

Anything that blocks lymphatic system is dangerous.
Matter of time.
But by then you bank account will be full so what do you care.

@Gummybear23
I simply don't like people with no knowledge but lots of 'theories' banging on big like they know things.
You don't. You do however seem VEEEERRRY invested

@Gummybear23 you dint see the irony of your comments do you.

Leave the discussion about carcinogens to the pros. Then you go on to state that fillers will be proven to cause cancer. Because what? You feel it in your bones? The runes? The tea leaves?
You are funny

@Gummybear23
Of course there are negatives. But I don't need to discuss those as you are doing this. I am merely providing some balance.

Like anything, poorly done it's shocking

It's all really sad. I am 47 and my ageing has shown itself with sagging rather than wrinkles. My lips that were once full, have shrunk a bit and I was considering a very small amount of filler for them. I have always had this little voice in the back of my head that kept saying no, so I haven't. After seeing that video and doing some reading, I definitely won't.

I think in another ten years we will see lots and lots of cases where people are very ill because of them.

Personally, I think those who think fillers are completely fine and safe are the irrational ones.

@biglipslittleblips

For someone who does not have a vested interest in this industry you sure spend enough time bleating about defending it.
Please leave the message about the impact of known carcinogenics to the professionals.
They do well in getting there messages out.
But sadly fillers and botox will follow.
Matter of time.
Enjoy making the 💰 out of peoples vulnerabilities.

Yes I'd agree these are a definite improvement, but you've chosen fairly extreme examples of receding chins. There are some cases like these where cosmetic surgery is brilliant. Would this have been done with normal filler though, or something more permanent?

But most people having filler are doing it either to try to look younger, or to conform to current trends about 'beauty' (like the big lips and glassy foreheads). Neither look good to me.

Can you be honest about the negatives.

When it’s done really well you can’t tell it’s been done…

It’s not done to look good, it’s done as a status thing - shows you can afford to do it

I couldn't disagree more - the people I see with their lips done, etc. definitely don't look like they're rolling in money. In fact, quite the opposite 😬

What is crap is people banging on about something 'potentially' being carcinogenic but merrily partaking in things that are 'known' as carcinogenic

It's called being irrational or 'being stupid'

Good for you 😂 but rational people don't base their decisions on what some random person on mumsnet thinks

@MeowCatPleaseMeowBack 😂😂😂I don't have filler. But I'm honest enough to say some people have had fantastic filler and look amazing. If I felt I would benefit I would 100% have it but so far I don't feel like it's something of benefit from.

But I'll defend anyone's choice to have it.

I can fully see why filler might be a bad idea long term, however when I look in the mirror and see deep marionette lines and smoker lines above my lips when I’ve never even tried a cigarette in my life it’s really fucking depressing, I’ve not gone down the filler route yet for safety reasons and the only thing that has stopped me is the risk of going instantly blind which although rare, is a risk, if that’s wasn’t a factor I would definitely have it but I’m too scared to risk my sight. I’m so fed up as I want to get rid of these lines and apart from filler I don’t think there is an alternative.

@Gummybear23 Just because fillers haven't been linked to cancer

Yet. I'm sure it's only a matter of time.

@biglipslittleblips But your arguments are crap.
You try to derail arguments onto known carcinogenics which everyone is aware of and educated about.
However Long-term effects of fillers and Botox are unclear: The absence of proven risks today does not equate to their safety in the long run. Medical history has shown that certain cosmetic treatments or products, initially deemed safe, later proved harmful after decades of use. The lack of long-term studies is a risk in itself.
Unknown substances and body reactions: Fillers and Botox introduce foreign substances into the body. The potential for adverse reactions, such as immune responses, infections, or granulomas (lumps under the skin), should not be underestimated. Just because fillers haven't been linked to cancer doesn't mean they can't cause other serious health issues, such as nerve damage or vascular complications.

Beyond health risks, fillers and Botox contribute to a culture that promotes unrealistic beauty standards. This can have mental health repercussions, particularly for individuals who feel pressured to undergo such procedures to conform.

It's more than just "having an opinion" but how defensive, illogical, and vehement you are about it. If you think your filled face looks great, why are you so triggered that others don't? Carry on as you are.

@PepaWepa @Gummybear23
For the life of god, the lunacy of accusing someone with a different viewpoint of 'obviously having a vested interest'

Do you really find it so hard to believe anyone holds a different option to yourselves?
That's some impressive level of arrogance

They show a definite change. ‘Improvement’ is subjective. I prefer the originals. More natural. I like people to look individual.