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To be glad that people are realising the effects of filler!

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GentleOliveFatball · 09/10/2024 19:50

Just that really. It's been advertised by the media, plastic surgeons and the beauty industry for years as a safe, temporary procedure, however evidence is now finding that that is not the case at all!
I'm glad the truth is coming out now although it's still so new I expect we won't know the full damage for years too come.

I also found this video particularly interesting if anyone else is interested:

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NameChangeUser183794639 · 16/10/2024 16:03

Having now watched this right through to the end, I completely amend my previous comments (I don't have edit capability) I'm shocked that the filler can migrate not just to the immediate surrounding area of tissue, but down into the neck, chest etc and actually attract excess fluid from elsewhere in the body. I wouldn't recommend anyone do it even a little bit.

Lyannaa · 12/10/2024 09:55

Yawn

OptimismvsRealism · 12/10/2024 09:48

strawberrysilk · 12/10/2024 01:39

The lymphatic system is definitely affected by fillers, completely blocked in some cases - they had scans showing this in that rather screechy video OP linked.

What time will tell is does this - the lymphatic being part of the immune system suggests it may - increase risk of cancer.

Both Botox and fillers impair the natural circulation systems of the body, blood and lymph, resulting in that slightly corpse-like waxy look to the face, which is hardly the epitome of youth.

The MRI studies showing that filler does not, as previously claimed, just break down - but instead sticks around and migrates around the face - is also chilling from a health perspective, but also part of why very rich celebrities end up looking so deformed, as their 'topups' end up on top of migrated filler.

It's a shitshow. I feel very sad for the young women caught up in this trend.

Edited

It's really not - it's a nice way to stay looking fresh for most people who do it (and loads of all ages do it).

strawberrysilk · 12/10/2024 01:39

Gummybear23 · 11/10/2024 14:10

Only time will tell if the lymphatic systems is impacted with these products.

It not ok to promote things just because they give people confidence.

Like sun beds of the past.

Despite the popularity of tanning at one time now the risks associated with sunbed use have led to increased regulation and public health campaigns discouraging their use. Some countries have even banned their use altogether for minors.

The lymphatic system is definitely affected by fillers, completely blocked in some cases - they had scans showing this in that rather screechy video OP linked.

What time will tell is does this - the lymphatic being part of the immune system suggests it may - increase risk of cancer.

Both Botox and fillers impair the natural circulation systems of the body, blood and lymph, resulting in that slightly corpse-like waxy look to the face, which is hardly the epitome of youth.

The MRI studies showing that filler does not, as previously claimed, just break down - but instead sticks around and migrates around the face - is also chilling from a health perspective, but also part of why very rich celebrities end up looking so deformed, as their 'topups' end up on top of migrated filler.

It's a shitshow. I feel very sad for the young women caught up in this trend.

Gummybear23 · 11/10/2024 19:38

NameChangeUser183794639 · 11/10/2024 19:18

I've seen some of the most beautiful black women getting regular filler top ups. There's one influencer I follow for funny content and I cannot fathom why she feels the need, as she is gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous and as you say, is likely to retain a more youthful appearance for longer already! It all makes you feel insecure as it seems every influencer of all ethnicities is doing it to excess.

Yes to lnfluencers but your average person of colour is less likely to have wrinkles than there white counterpart.
Therefore less likely to resort to these treatments.

NameChangeUser183794639 · 11/10/2024 19:18

Gummybear23 · 11/10/2024 18:58

All depends on genetics. As they say
"Black don't crack" and "Asians don't raisin" so i guess certain skin types seem to age better.

I've seen some of the most beautiful black women getting regular filler top ups. There's one influencer I follow for funny content and I cannot fathom why she feels the need, as she is gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous and as you say, is likely to retain a more youthful appearance for longer already! It all makes you feel insecure as it seems every influencer of all ethnicities is doing it to excess.

Gummybear23 · 11/10/2024 18:58

All depends on genetics. As they say
"Black don't crack" and "Asians don't raisin" so i guess certain skin types seem to age better.

NameChangeUser183794639 · 11/10/2024 18:42

MangoRose · 11/10/2024 09:12

Badly done fillers look awful, people seem to confused fillers with botox, it's mostly the fillers that make people look like aliens. Too much botox in forehead makes eyelids droop, a good practitioner would do it in stages to avoid this.

My friend had tear trough fillers and small amount of botox in forehead. I have seen plenty of people with it but I honestly didn't realise what it was but she looked great and really refreshed, not tired and lovely glowing skin. She had clearly been to a very good person.

Too many of my friends who were stunning before look a bit disfigured TBH, its definitely the fillers that cause this. I'd happily have a little bit of botox but would stay clear of fillers due to how they look most of the time, not sure that video would be what stopped me really.

Tear trough procedures are among the most risky. I hope your friends procedure remains good. A health influencer I follow had had her tear trough filled and then years later had to travel to a special clinic in Pakistan to have the filler removed and the under eye lifted in a way that didn't remove all her own natural hyaluronic acid and natural under eye fat. It might even have been that they were replacing the 'loose space' resulting from the filler with her own eye fat. I can't remember all the details just that I was surprised she had to go that far. The skin around the eye and under it isn't as strong as, say, the cheeks and so if over filled or simply time itself the filler can migrate and cause sagging.

That said, I do think there's a bit of overreacting in the thread! The key is go subtle. A little bit. Lots of people have had lip filler and look awful and plenty have had it and look nicely enhanced. Likewise boob jobs. I think Mariah Carey's boob job which she had decades ago is excellent. She restrained herself. Demi Moore'son the other hand? Nope, terrible. She didn't consider her shape.

Do good research on the aesthetician. Contact people on facebook or social media who have used that person/clinic beforehand. Most of all don't follow online influencers with more money (and a different face) than you. I see drop dead gorgeous, model material women having constant top ups. It even made me start to feel insecure and I was previously a go-outside-without-make-up girl! The problem is they're already beautiful, but it gets you somehow thinking you will be more beautiful afterwards, when actually, you may not be, just slightly vetter average!

What's funny is I follow some Victoria secret models and I notice they aren't having the filler. Only botox. They get the best advice so it's interesting.

BlackShuck3 · 11/10/2024 18:02

But Cher is stilll alive?!

Gummybear23 · 11/10/2024 17:56

TiredOldLady2024 · 11/10/2024 16:08

Google “fat used as filler”. I think friend had it done about fifteen years ago, and is thinking of a revision as it is getting a bit flat now in her forties.

She had it in her 30s?
Was this necessary.

TiredOldLady2024 · 11/10/2024 16:08

Google “fat used as filler”. I think friend had it done about fifteen years ago, and is thinking of a revision as it is getting a bit flat now in her forties.

TiredOldLady2024 · 11/10/2024 16:05

Can’t help about cost, and plastic surgeon retired about a decade ago. Google might help.

soupfiend · 11/10/2024 16:02

I would be interested in this, who was the plastic surgeon? How much was that

TiredOldLady2024 · 11/10/2024 15:47

(Not rtft). What about using fat for fillers? Friend had some abdominal fat lipo’ed then injected into top lip to improve profile. All done by plastic surgeon.

Portakalkedi · 11/10/2024 14:58

I've never understood why people have fillers in the first place, surely it doesn't take a genius to imagine that having stuff injected into your body - purely for reasons of vanity or wanting to look like some D-list 'celebrity' - is not a good idea. The time and energy spent on this would be better served by getting more education and getting away from the mindset that how your face look is the most important thing in your life.

SweetSakura · 11/10/2024 14:49

The best thing that ever happened to me, in a weird way, was temporarily becoming quite enormous for a few months due to a severe reaction to steroids (so large and strange looking people would yell abuse at me on the street).

I learnt to love myself, not my reflection. I discovered I have value what ever I look like. I think I kind of knew ew that anyway but it gave me huge strength to live with being judged every time I left the house.

Endless tweaks won't make you love yourself any more

MadeupofMultipleRivers · 11/10/2024 14:46

I have been watching Married At First Sight - so many of the women have had obvious facial fillers. It just looks weird - and sort of gives people a look like they are constantly dribbling or something. It is so sad as these are young women, late twenties/early thirties.

MadeupofMultipleRivers · 11/10/2024 14:40

I would be incredibly wary of filler. You see the likes of Simon Cowell, who can presumably afford the best treatment - and he almost looks disfigured by it. I fear David Beckham is also heading in that direction. Both filler and Botox subtlety adjust the proportions of the face. At first it looks great - but when 'tweakments' are made those proportions keep changing. So you end up with people with small looking eyes - almost Santa clause like.

The squaring of the jaw etc - whilst looks good initially becomes overdone and people just start to look weird. You can't put your finger on it but they just don't look right.

I am sure some people get the balance right - and they just look like a better, fresher version of themselves but the risk is that 'top ups' will eventually take their toll and the proportions, even if just slightly, go out and then the look is jarring. I think that people get so used to seeing their own faces in the mirror they don't notice these subtle changes but other people do.

Also whilst it can look good face on - or in a selfie, at certain angles the work becomes really noticeable - the face starts to look rubbery and mask like.

Skirtandshirt · 11/10/2024 14:35

Katiesaidthat · 11/10/2024 14:24

Actually, I see more cases of beautiful women totally disfigured by this stuff. I think it´s addictive.

Imagine what Kim Kardashian might have looked like if she had aged naturally. In her case it’s more than just fillers, but they won’t have helped.

She was jaw-droppingly gorgeous before she started having work done. And has the kind of olive skin that would age really well.

She is still gorgeous of course, but she looks a lot more like a generic rich LA housewife who could be anything between 40 and 60. She doesn’t look enormously younger than her mother.

Katiesaidthat · 11/10/2024 14:24

OptimismvsRealism · 11/10/2024 13:07

Personally I think it's great that ugly girls (comme moi!) can improve ourselves a bit if we like. Looks make a difference to how people treat you and how easily you get on in life. Depressing but true.

Actually, I see more cases of beautiful women totally disfigured by this stuff. I think it´s addictive.

PepaWepa · 11/10/2024 14:15

In fact, she's now advocating for young people not to have them.

"I think everyone looks like an alien these days"

To be glad that people are realising the effects of filler!
ChaToilLeam · 11/10/2024 14:15

I think it looks awful but people are going to do it anyway, like so many other things. Friends of mine get it done, mostly in their 50s but one is only in her 20s. I’m just going to get old (dis)gracefully.

PepaWepa · 11/10/2024 14:11

KateMiskin · 11/10/2024 13:48

Surely it's obvious that people in the glamour biz- Katie Price, Abbey Clancey, Michelle Keegan, Nicole Kidman, Jennifer Aniston etc etc- have all had work. They were all beautiful before. Which begs the question: when is beautiful enough? I suspect the answer is never. Ever.

Your argument that people who don't use fillers are insecure is laughable, from where I am sitting.

Katie Price is a good example. She was absolutely beautiful before she started having work.

ETA: all of them were beautiful, especially Michelle Keegan. Katie Price is just a good example as she's gone so ott and looks so bad, but started out with such a pretty face.

Gummybear23 · 11/10/2024 14:10

Only time will tell if the lymphatic systems is impacted with these products.

It not ok to promote things just because they give people confidence.

Like sun beds of the past.

Despite the popularity of tanning at one time now the risks associated with sunbed use have led to increased regulation and public health campaigns discouraging their use. Some countries have even banned their use altogether for minors.

Bignanna · 11/10/2024 14:00

Maria1979 · 09/10/2024 20:36

Never been tempted by it. I rather look my age than like ET. I think the majority of people who use fillers look awful so why would I pay for that?

The fillers are to stop you looking like ET.! If they’re properly done, no one could tell.
I think a little filler perhaps once a year is ok, but not the liquid face lift where filler is injected at points all over the face.

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