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To not like being called by forename by kids

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BreakingDad77 · 09/10/2024 14:36

I don't know but somehow it feels odd when sons friends year 6 age range calling me by my forename. I haven't said anything but part of me feels I would prefer Mr surname or "sons name - dad".

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RafaFan · 09/10/2024 17:16

When talking to our kids (11 and 8) we will always refer to the parents of their friends as "Xxx's mum/dad" or "Mrs/Mr Yyyy", unless the parents are also our personal friends, in which case we would just use their first names. It's just a matter of respect for acquaintances who you don't have a close personal relationship with. I don't know how my kids address the parents when they're at the friends house, but hope it would be however the parent wanted to be addressed. My daughter's best friend is the child of teachers (at her school) and there is no way my daughter would voluntarily call them anything except Mr and Mrs when she's round at their house. They actually remarked how polite both our kids were when they had a meal with them once and both addressed them as Mr and Mrs and asked if they could leave the table.

Schools where we are in Canada are pretty informal- no uniforms for example- but teachers, janitors, cooks - all adults in the school, are addressed by title, not first name. Doesn't mean kids can't give them a hug either. It's just a basic show of respect and acknowledgement that there is a distance and the adults are in charge.

If the OP is more comfortable being addressed as Mr then what's the problem? Especially if the kids are in his house and he is the responsible adult!

MrsSunshine2b · 09/10/2024 17:16

Calliopespa · 09/10/2024 15:42

Everyone should be respected but the way we respect people changes.

I wouldn’t take a six month baby and make sure it was seated at table with a wine full glass; I’d make sure the baby had a nice, comfortable place to nap at the right temperature or it’s carer had a comfortable chair to nurse it. That isn’t disrespect to the baby.

Equally children have different needs from adults. It’s an important part of preparing them for the world that they learn to understand that the adults in their life have more wisdom about how they should behave and other things in their best interests. Using a surname ( or a family name like Mum or Granny) reinforces that.

Most adults would also ensure children and babies made it first into a lifeboat ahead of older people out of respect for their youth. It’s a recognition that we are at different stages of life and have different needs and ways of being respected

You don't "need" to be called Mrs anything. Calling your relatives Mum/Dad/Grandma etc. is more about affection for them as your dear family member, than formality. Also, you do have authority over your own kids, you do not have any authority over your kids' friends.

BreakingDad77 · 09/10/2024 17:16

Calliopespa · 09/10/2024 16:02

She doesn’t answer to OP: please use her username.

Came back to 9 pages to scroll through on phone 😲😀.

Thanks for the advice, think I was just being old fashioned/baked in stuff from parents, and be more relaxed on this.

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LewishamMumNow · 09/10/2024 17:15

MereDintofPandiculation · 09/10/2024 17:01

It wouldn't feel respectful to me to call someone 30 years older than me by their first name.

But why do you need to feel respectful just because someone's 30 years older? Respect everyone, not because of their age.

Pluvia · 09/10/2024 17:14

Stompythedinosaur · 09/10/2024 17:05

It's a bit weird to be so insecure around a group of children that you need to emphases your superiority in that way.

It's not about superiority. It's about understanding that you're an adult and in charge and they are children for whom you are responsible.

sanityisamyth · 09/10/2024 17:11

Your own child calling you by your first name is odd. Other people's children - what are they supposed to call you?

MrsJoanDanvers · 09/10/2024 17:11

Conchetti · 09/10/2024 15:52

That's nice you are clear on your world view.
British site for British people eh?😉

Oh here we go-I didn’t say that. If a site based in the say, the USA or Japan or The Philippines, where people asked a manners/culture question, it would be a bit rich for users based elsewhere to start chipping in what should happen because that’s what we do here wouldn’t it? Nothing about only Brits can use it-fwiw, I’m not British by origin but have no problem accepting a site which is UK based has primarily UK users.

ARichtGoodDram · 09/10/2024 17:10

Doubt it, very few people born after the early 90s use fb!

This often gets said on here, but my teens and their friends all use it. As do my girls in their mid 20's.

Going by the number of friend requests I get from former pupils they're not unusual.

Pluvia · 09/10/2024 17:09

Wellingtonspie · 09/10/2024 17:03

Maybe we should go to calling all children little master and miss as well.

Master William could you please do your hand writing in cursive.

why certainly Mr Jones.

Edited

I was going to say that's a ridiculous argument, but it's not an argument at all really, is it? Basic manners, basic expressions of respect, don't really change. Good manners are about considering the other person's feelings and making them feel comfortable: they're not about you feeling comfortable.

People pay an awful lot of money to send their children to school to learn to write a decent script and call their teachers 'Sir' and 'Miss'. Why do you think they do that?

ARichtGoodDram · 09/10/2024 17:07

Well, tbf, we are in the West. I accept that in other cultures Uncle/Auntie are more generic terms of address, but here in the UK they are not, and they are only for your actual Uncle/Aunt (obviously immigrant families etc can do what they want!). Personally I would not let my children call anyone Uncle/Aunt if they were not an Uncle/Aunt. It's confusing, and inappropriate.

Totally common where I grew up in Scotland, and still is now, for your parent's friends (and your friend's parents) to be Aunty/Uncle.

It's not remotely confusing or inappropriate. You don't like it, which is fine, but you could easily be less rude about things other people do daily.

And maybe don't talk for the entire UK

AutumnTimeForCosy24 · 09/10/2024 17:06

BreakingDad77 · 09/10/2024 16:44

I haven't said anything, that's partly why came here, wasn't sure if it's old fashioned stuff left over from my folks. They were older parents and I'm also an older parent.

Maybe they should just call you Grampa then??

Stompythedinosaur · 09/10/2024 17:05

It's a bit weird to be so insecure around a group of children that you need to emphases your superiority in that way.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 09/10/2024 17:05

BreakingDad77 · 09/10/2024 16:44

I haven't said anything, that's partly why came here, wasn't sure if it's old fashioned stuff left over from my folks. They were older parents and I'm also an older parent.

There's your answer, sir. 😉

Wellingtonspie · 09/10/2024 17:03

Maybe we should go to calling all children little master and miss as well.

Master William could you please do your hand writing in cursive.

why certainly Mr Jones.

Mnetcurious · 09/10/2024 17:02

pizzaHeart · 09/10/2024 16:57

It’s nothing, wait until in 10 years they all will send you friend’s requests on FB and will start commenting on your holiday photos.

Doubt it, very few people born after the early 90s use fb!

MereDintofPandiculation · 09/10/2024 17:01

It wouldn't feel respectful to me to call someone 30 years older than me by their first name.

ARichtGoodDram · 09/10/2024 17:01

I find it very odd when people insist on Mr/Mrs in a private setting.

One of my old colleagues insisted on it claiming that the children would forget that they couldn't call her by her first name at school. Funnily enough the kids always managed with me - Mrs X at school, FirstName at playscheme (in the school hall), Different Nickname at dance class (in the school hall) and different nickname again at Rainbows or Brownies (I was a 'hellllp were short handed occasional helper).

Insisting on a formal form of address won't draw any more respect from them.

Pluvia · 09/10/2024 17:00

TimesArraChanging · 09/10/2024 16:49

Kids nowadays can't manage to relax if they have to call adults Mr/Mrs, the poor dears.

I think it's a good rule of thumb to err on the side of formality initially and that we do our kids a disservice if we encourage them not to do so. No one was ever offended by being called Mr Jones (if they are Mr Jones, obviously) but a fair few will feel uncomfortable having someone young enough to be their grandchild of child calling them Mike.

Wellingtonspie · 09/10/2024 16:59

pizzaHeart · 09/10/2024 16:57

It’s nothing, wait until in 10 years they all will send you friend’s requests on FB and will start commenting on your holiday photos.

Haha yes. All my brothers mates have my mum on Facebook. Some even bring her chocolate. I still find that very strange.

pizzaHeart · 09/10/2024 16:57

It’s nothing, wait until in 10 years they all will send you friend’s requests on FB and will start commenting on your holiday photos.

Waspie · 09/10/2024 16:53

Floranan · 09/10/2024 14:53

When my eldest was in pre school his best friend called me J* mum, I said how about calling me “my name” his mum interrupted and said she wasn’t comfortable with the I could be aunt as we are good friends. I didn’t like that so the little lad looked at me for a while and said “ I’ll call you JM (m’s my surname first letter}. It’s stuck, 30 years later I’m still JM , all my children’s friends have called me it over the years, their partners and children now call me it, I personally love it, it often gets shortened to M which DH says suits me better but then he’s a James Bond fan.

I like this!

I called my friend's parents by their given names in the 80's/90's.

All the teachers were called by their given names at my son's primary school so he has always been used to calling adults by their first names. The headteacher thought it made him seem less intimidating to the young children if they knew him as "Fred" rather than "Mr Bloggs". I think he had a good point as he was universally loved by all the kids despite being 6'4", ex-army and quite stern looking.

TimesArraChanging · 09/10/2024 16:53

dinosaurandlonelyghost · 09/10/2024 16:53

Like your username says, times are changes. Might be hard for a poor dear like yourself stuck in your ways, but you just need to get on with it. You’ll manage. The kids do.

Thank you, I'll do my best :)

dinosaurandlonelyghost · 09/10/2024 16:53

TimesArraChanging · 09/10/2024 16:49

Kids nowadays can't manage to relax if they have to call adults Mr/Mrs, the poor dears.

Like your username says, times are changes. Might be hard for a poor dear like yourself stuck in your ways, but you just need to get on with it. You’ll manage. The kids do.

TimesArraChanging · 09/10/2024 16:52

dinosaurandlonelyghost · 09/10/2024 16:50

How fucking condescending.

You think so? I thought that was the summary of the thread, was just trying to summarise so the pp wouldn't call them cheeky. The other observation most people have made is that it's extremely odd to expect children to use titles for adults.

Boomer55 · 09/10/2024 16:52

I was born in the 50’s, and I still was ok with my kid’s friends addressing me by my Christian name.