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To not like being called by forename by kids

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BreakingDad77 · 09/10/2024 14:36

I don't know but somehow it feels odd when sons friends year 6 age range calling me by my forename. I haven't said anything but part of me feels I would prefer Mr surname or "sons name - dad".

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Calliopespa · 09/10/2024 20:27

Roosnoodles · 09/10/2024 19:33

I’m only in my forties so I’m not that out of date with my upbringing. God anyone would think I’ve received my letter from the King.

I’m also 40’s and the first name basis for adults is new to me with my Dc.

CurlewKate · 09/10/2024 20:12

@MereDintofPandiculation "I call my father by his first name. It was too confusing to continue to call him "Dad" when DC knew DH as "Dad"."

Did you not notice that every other child you met managed to negotiate this issue without confusion?

Runnerinthenight · 09/10/2024 19:44

OneRarelySeesABrazierTheseDays · 09/10/2024 18:51

No it isn't
But clearly you are setting a delightful example to kids

It absolutely is and you are actually very rude!

Runnerinthenight · 09/10/2024 19:42

MrsSunshine2b · 09/10/2024 19:22

She hasn't said anywhere how old the children are, where she most regularly sees them or whether the parents are present or not.

In her own home, she has some authority to set rules and look after them.

In any other location, she does not.

Well we're talking Year 6 children here aren't we.

She absolutely has authority to set rules and look after them, in any location where she is in loco parentis!

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 09/10/2024 19:38

wonderings2 · 09/10/2024 14:50

I think its a bit old fashioned now. When I met DH's parents for the first time she made a point of saying you must call me firstname.

Recently I took DD for a playdate and the mum is a TA at her school so I said "say thank you to Mrs X" and she laughed and said oh no she can call me firstname when we're not in school.

Ha ha it took me about 20 years for me to dare to address my MIL by her first name! It's a good tip to tell people to do that.

Roosnoodles · 09/10/2024 19:33

raydavis · 09/10/2024 17:40

@Roosnoodles nobody is arguing it wasn't the done thing in the past.

It's 2024.....:

I’m only in my forties so I’m not that out of date with my upbringing. God anyone would think I’ve received my letter from the King.

BreakingDad77 · 09/10/2024 19:31

Bestfootfwd · 09/10/2024 18:26

I am 55 and called adults Mr and Mrs Whatever when I was a child, but it was quite an old fashioned approach even then. It never occurred to me that my children and their friends (now young adults) should do the same. The world has moved on - it’s less formal now and friendlier, more open, relationships are now the norm.

I'm mid 47 and at the state school I was at there was a few new teachers who were happy to be called by first name but that wasn't seen as being too informal.

From the comments guess we were just bit behind.

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MrsSunshine2b · 09/10/2024 19:22

Runnerinthenight · 09/10/2024 18:38

If their own parent isn't present? Surely that's pretty obvious?!

She hasn't said anywhere how old the children are, where she most regularly sees them or whether the parents are present or not.

In her own home, she has some authority to set rules and look after them.

In any other location, she does not.

Pluvia · 09/10/2024 19:18

MrsSunshine2b · 09/10/2024 17:24

Why is she in charge of, or responsible for, anyone else's children?

If they're in the OP's home, she's in charge because she's the adult. And if the visiting child is the offspring of a Mumsnetter, OP will certainly be expected to be responsible for her/him while s/he is on the OP's premises.

Calliopespa · 09/10/2024 18:54

MereDintofPandiculation · 09/10/2024 18:12

But any honourable ( and self-respecting) adult would know that respect for a child’s right to life trumps theirs in a scramble for lifeboat type situation. I wouldn't see that their right to life trumped mine, I would see it as equal. But their right to a lifeboat place trumps mine because they are less able to survive without one.

No I don’t think it’s rubbish. There is definitely a quality in the concept respect that ties to our humanity, young or old. It wasn't the concept of respect I was suggesting might be rubbish, it was that the way that concept was understood has changed over the last half century.

That’s exactly how I took your meaning and exactly what I was meaning in my response: it isn’t rubbish that the concept of respect has evolved and is redolent of a human rights type interpretation.

OneRarelySeesABrazierTheseDays · 09/10/2024 18:51

Runnerinthenight · 09/10/2024 18:39

That's complete nonsense.

No it isn't
But clearly you are setting a delightful example to kids

OneRarelySeesABrazierTheseDays · 09/10/2024 18:49

MrsJoanDanvers · 09/10/2024 18:17

Well you’re certainly not pandering to your relatives who have asked NOT to be called aunty or uncle. That’s disrespectful.

No it is not

Runnerinthenight · 09/10/2024 18:43

MereDintofPandiculation · 09/10/2024 18:03

I call my father by his first name. It was too confusing to continue to call him "Dad" when DC knew DH as "Dad". and I wasn't going to call him "Grandad" because he's not my grandad. So I use first names for all of us, and DC resolutely use Mum/Dad/Grandad.

I'd never have done that! My kids coped. They could tell the difference. I might have referred to my dad as, "your grandad" to my children.

Runnerinthenight · 09/10/2024 18:39

OneRarelySeesABrazierTheseDays · 09/10/2024 17:40

Tell them you want to be called 'My son's name'
It is rude to address an adult by their first name, particularly uninvited.
But clearly their parents have not taught them manners

That's complete nonsense.

Runnerinthenight · 09/10/2024 18:38

MrsSunshine2b · 09/10/2024 17:24

Why is she in charge of, or responsible for, anyone else's children?

If their own parent isn't present? Surely that's pretty obvious?!

Runnerinthenight · 09/10/2024 18:28

RafaFan · 09/10/2024 17:16

When talking to our kids (11 and 8) we will always refer to the parents of their friends as "Xxx's mum/dad" or "Mrs/Mr Yyyy", unless the parents are also our personal friends, in which case we would just use their first names. It's just a matter of respect for acquaintances who you don't have a close personal relationship with. I don't know how my kids address the parents when they're at the friends house, but hope it would be however the parent wanted to be addressed. My daughter's best friend is the child of teachers (at her school) and there is no way my daughter would voluntarily call them anything except Mr and Mrs when she's round at their house. They actually remarked how polite both our kids were when they had a meal with them once and both addressed them as Mr and Mrs and asked if they could leave the table.

Schools where we are in Canada are pretty informal- no uniforms for example- but teachers, janitors, cooks - all adults in the school, are addressed by title, not first name. Doesn't mean kids can't give them a hug either. It's just a basic show of respect and acknowledgement that there is a distance and the adults are in charge.

If the OP is more comfortable being addressed as Mr then what's the problem? Especially if the kids are in his house and he is the responsible adult!

Kids here aren't encouraged to give any adult not closely related to them in school! It can easily be misconstrued, sadly.

Bestfootfwd · 09/10/2024 18:26

I am 55 and called adults Mr and Mrs Whatever when I was a child, but it was quite an old fashioned approach even then. It never occurred to me that my children and their friends (now young adults) should do the same. The world has moved on - it’s less formal now and friendlier, more open, relationships are now the norm.

Mnetcurious · 09/10/2024 18:25

ARichtGoodDram · 09/10/2024 17:10

Doubt it, very few people born after the early 90s use fb!

This often gets said on here, but my teens and their friends all use it. As do my girls in their mid 20's.

Going by the number of friend requests I get from former pupils they're not unusual.

I have teenagers, none of them or their friends or even other kids in their large school (that they’re aware of) use Facebook. I work with a lot of people in their 20s and early 30s, none of them use it either and have told me “no-one” their age uses it. Some of the older ones have accounts from when they were younger but aren’t active users. We’re clearly not having the same experience!

Runnerinthenight · 09/10/2024 18:22

SimpleThings101 · 09/10/2024 15:46

When I was at school all teachers were addressed as Mr/ Mrs/ Dr. They also wore gowns and we stood up whenever an adult entered the room.
The school was highly academic.

Same, except they only wore gowns on prize day (speech day as it was called).

The headmaster used to wish us for eg "happy Christmas" at the end of the last assembly of the term, and the 900 or so pupils used to chorus in unison, "and the same to you sir!"

Mnetcurious · 09/10/2024 18:21

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MrsJoanDanvers · 09/10/2024 18:17

OneRarelySeesABrazierTheseDays · 09/10/2024 17:44

Even at 63, I call my uncles/aunts Uncle x, Aunty Y, etc, despite a couple of them asking to be called 'x'; (doing that seems so disrespectful)
But then again, we are in times where children are supposed to be the centre of everyone's bloody universe, and thus we should pander to each and every precious little whim

Well you’re certainly not pandering to your relatives who have asked NOT to be called aunty or uncle. That’s disrespectful.

MereDintofPandiculation · 09/10/2024 18:12

But any honourable ( and self-respecting) adult would know that respect for a child’s right to life trumps theirs in a scramble for lifeboat type situation. I wouldn't see that their right to life trumped mine, I would see it as equal. But their right to a lifeboat place trumps mine because they are less able to survive without one.

No I don’t think it’s rubbish. There is definitely a quality in the concept respect that ties to our humanity, young or old. It wasn't the concept of respect I was suggesting might be rubbish, it was that the way that concept was understood has changed over the last half century.

OneRarelySeesABrazierTheseDays · 09/10/2024 18:07

johndeer · 09/10/2024 17:47

Are you usually so uptight.

Nasty
What is wrong with expecting some courtesy?

Calliopespa · 09/10/2024 18:04

MereDintofPandiculation · 09/10/2024 17:57

On average, someone who has lived 30 years longer than me will have contributed more to society than me, which deserves respect. Again on average they will have experienced more and learned more.

I think the concept of respect has changed over the last half century, from something which is earned, and not everyone will achieve (the respect you give to a top footballer, a person who has done obvious good, or a "national treasure" for example), to something more akin to basic human rights, due to everyone.

This may explain why many older people find it hard to understand they should respect a 5 year old as much as a 50 year old. Of course both have the same right to have their opinions heard (new definition) but if you were seeking advice on how to deal with a blocked drain, you may place more credence on the 50 year old's suggestion than the 5 year old's (old definition).

This may all be rubbish, I've only just thought about it.

No I don’t think it’s rubbish. There is definitely a quality in the concept of respect that ties to our humanity, young or old.

BUT I do think the way that respect should manifest is different depending on our age.

Children have unique rights that need respecting, and in return I do think it’s healthy that children are brought up knowing they have adults in their world with valuable knowledge and experience who will protect them, guide them and yes sometimes discipline them or have thd ultimate say over their actions ( like sleeping in a tent in the garden when it’s minus 3) .( The sad and unacceptable fact that some children are failed in this regard is another topic) .

But any honourable ( and self-respecting) adult would know that respect for a child’s right to life trumps theirs in a scramble for lifeboat type situation. So all are respected. but the fundamental differences in situation of adults and children impact what is appropriate respect.

MereDintofPandiculation · 09/10/2024 18:03

sanityisamyth · 09/10/2024 17:11

Your own child calling you by your first name is odd. Other people's children - what are they supposed to call you?

I call my father by his first name. It was too confusing to continue to call him "Dad" when DC knew DH as "Dad". and I wasn't going to call him "Grandad" because he's not my grandad. So I use first names for all of us, and DC resolutely use Mum/Dad/Grandad.