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To not want him to complain in restaurants?

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FirecrackerK · 09/10/2024 11:19

My DP is really into his food, makes most meals at home and even thought about being a chef when he was younger. It's a hobby.

But I'd say 60% of the time when we're out for a meal, if the server asks 'how was your meal?' he doesnt give the obligatory response.

Instead he uses it as an opportunity to moan about the carrots of the gravy or whatever and say 'it could've been more X'. I feel really embarrassed when he does this as other diners are just quietly enjoying their meals!

He stopped for a while because he knew it bothered me but he's back at it again

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TizerorFizz · 09/10/2024 15:23

@JemimaTiggywinkles We have had atrocious food when out with friends. I tend to want to keep the peace, so we keep quiet but we don’t go back! In a high quality restaurant, we’ve never had a bad meal.

We also have friends who pick food apart to put on one side ingedisnts they don’t like. I just hate it! DH and me tend to be busy and only do light lunches now! Except the weekend now looming. High blood pressure guaranteed. The won’t pay but expect Michelin food group! Or their own menu! It’s not relaxing.

Badburyrings · 09/10/2024 15:22

Quiinkong · 09/10/2024 14:14

I don't see a problem here either. He is simply stating his opinion and nowhere in her post does she say he says it in a rude manner or shouts at them. Personally think OP is being unreasonable to want him to never give his opinion

So by telling a chef how he can "improve" a recipe is just him being allowed an opinion. Aye, right so does that give him the right to give his opinion to a brain surgeon about how he is operating on patient? Or maybe telling firefighters they are putting out the fire wrongly..

JemimaTiggywinkles · 09/10/2024 15:13

I don’t think it’s cringe, I think it can be cultural, and you are being uptight to object.

So if the OP's DH is in the UK and failing to follow UK customs that's okay because it is cultural but if the OP would prefer her DH to fall in line with local customs that is uptight?

I really wouldn't eat out with someone who was critiquing food when asked "is everything okay?" in a restaurant. Too embarrassing and it would spoil my enjoyment. But then I'm a fan of the custom of politely lying to keep things cheery in these situations.

winterbirds · 09/10/2024 15:11

Badburyrings · 09/10/2024 15:04

I think you need to look at your reading comprehension skills. She didn't say that most kitchen staff would be a Spanish speaker. What she actually said is if YOUR husband came wading into her kitchen to offer some unsolicited advice then she would pretend to only speak Spanish so she didn't have to converse with him. Totally different to your interpretation.

And it would be See you next Wednesday, not Tuesday. As it’s Wednesday today and I assume it would be see you same time next week.

Badburyrings · 09/10/2024 15:04

Zooks · 09/10/2024 14:31

Goodness me, you’ve got some anger issues and
very poor
Reading comprehension skills.
Racist too assuming any kitchen staff must be a Spanish speaker.

Back to therapy & and school for you. C U Next Tuesday.

I think you need to look at your reading comprehension skills. She didn't say that most kitchen staff would be a Spanish speaker. What she actually said is if YOUR husband came wading into her kitchen to offer some unsolicited advice then she would pretend to only speak Spanish so she didn't have to converse with him. Totally different to your interpretation.

winterbirds · 09/10/2024 14:57

Zooks · 09/10/2024 14:31

Goodness me, you’ve got some anger issues and
very poor
Reading comprehension skills.
Racist too assuming any kitchen staff must be a Spanish speaker.

Back to therapy & and school for you. C U Next Tuesday.

Nope. This one is on you @Zooks. Or rather your rude DH. But you seem pretty rude yourself tbf. No school or therapy can help you with that.

TizerorFizz · 09/10/2024 14:42

It surely depends on the restaurant! Would you really tell Raymond Blanc or Simon Rogon your DP can do it better? (As suggested several pages ago!). If it’s a shepherds pie at the pub that could be true. If you are dining at L’Enclume, probably not.

We try and go to top notch restaurants less frequently and cut others out altogether. Then paying more gets us the best. I have never been able to fault a top restaurant.

Zooks · 09/10/2024 14:31

SummaLuvin · 09/10/2024 13:56

he sounds right cringe.

walking out because the (often young and female) waitstaff can't tell you every ingredient in a dish.

marching up to the pass to bother the chefs when they are trying to do their jobs - I might also pretend I could only speak Spanish in that situation, though doesn't seem to put your DH off.

and badgering other tables, I would tell him what I had if he came up to me, but his intrusion would be unwelcome, I can't stand those people who find their partners so boring they insist on making another table their entertainment.

Goodness me, you’ve got some anger issues and
very poor
Reading comprehension skills.
Racist too assuming any kitchen staff must be a Spanish speaker.

Back to therapy & and school for you. C U Next Tuesday.

Comtesse · 09/10/2024 14:18

I think you’re being terribly British about this.

If someone asks you what you think of the meal it is not unreasonable to give an honest response. They shouldn’t ask the question if they don’t want the answer.

In my experience, ask a Frenchman what he thinks about a meal and you will get a lot of feedback in response!

I don’t think it’s cringe, I think it can be cultural, and you are being uptight to object. I don’t think he’s doing anything wrong.

Miffylou · 09/10/2024 14:16

Mountainpika · 09/10/2024 14:12

Make a bingo card of all the likely complaints and ostententatiously tick them off as he makes them. Of course when you get a completed line, you'll shout, "BINGO!"
If that doesn't stop him, then go out with a friend instead.

Nice one!

Quiinkong · 09/10/2024 14:14

ComtesseDeSpair · 09/10/2024 11:25

As long as he isn’t rude then I think it’s fine: they are asking for feedback on the meal, he is offering his opinion that the cooking time wasn’t quite right / seasoning could be better / more gravy on the side as an option would be appreciated. If you’re paying for a meal and there’s something wrong with it, the chef generally wants to know.

I think it’s a very British thing, to be unhappy with something but refuse to say so. All my non-Brit friends give restaurant feedback perfectly readily.

Edited

I don't see a problem here either. He is simply stating his opinion and nowhere in her post does she say he says it in a rude manner or shouts at them. Personally think OP is being unreasonable to want him to never give his opinion

Miffylou · 09/10/2024 14:13

I agree with you, OP. If it's a question of something really being wrong with the food it’s reasonable to say so, but if it’s just a question of taste and preference it isn’t. Some people like their carrots hard, others like them soft. Some people like their gravy seasoned with a lot of herbs, others don’t. A chef who knows they’re already good isn’t going to change things just because one customer would prefer something done a bit differently. The fact that your DH does it so frequently shows that the problem is him rather than them. It's a form of one-upmanship - he’s implying "you may think you’re a Michelin-starred chef but I know more about how to cook carrots than you"!

Tell him he's making you dread going out for meals with him, and spoiling your enjoyment of them.

Mountainpika · 09/10/2024 14:12

Make a bingo card of all the likely complaints and ostententatiously tick them off as he makes them. Of course when you get a completed line, you'll shout, "BINGO!"
If that doesn't stop him, then go out with a friend instead.

justasking111 · 09/10/2024 14:11

My husband cooks as a hobby. Last night we chose an Italian. His meal was delicious. Mine, however, chicken pollo risotto was tasteless even the parmesan couldn't save it. I asked him to taste it in case my taste buds weren't working. His opinion it was rice pudding with some chicken cubes added.

He did complain very politely about that saying that it needed, onions, garlic, herbs, seasoning at the very least. So please inform the chef of that.

Never heard back from the chef. 😂

PhoebeMcPeePee · 09/10/2024 14:01

Ah you have what is know in our house as a Food Wanker. I have one too. Sympathies

If it helps, having teenage children take the piss out of him for being a FW is quite a good way to stop it happening 😉

winterbirds · 09/10/2024 13:59

SummaLuvin · 09/10/2024 13:56

he sounds right cringe.

walking out because the (often young and female) waitstaff can't tell you every ingredient in a dish.

marching up to the pass to bother the chefs when they are trying to do their jobs - I might also pretend I could only speak Spanish in that situation, though doesn't seem to put your DH off.

and badgering other tables, I would tell him what I had if he came up to me, but his intrusion would be unwelcome, I can't stand those people who find their partners so boring they insist on making another table their entertainment.

This. Every single one of those things are cringe. Even of the other guests are laughing or whatever judst shows they have enough social skills to be polite.

SummaLuvin · 09/10/2024 13:56

Zooks · 09/10/2024 12:55

Prat that waitstaff doesn’t know what’s serving? Isn’t that waitstaff job? Is there cheese in the XYZ? It’s the job.

Or prat for pantomiming if there’s a language barrier?

he sounds right cringe.

walking out because the (often young and female) waitstaff can't tell you every ingredient in a dish.

marching up to the pass to bother the chefs when they are trying to do their jobs - I might also pretend I could only speak Spanish in that situation, though doesn't seem to put your DH off.

and badgering other tables, I would tell him what I had if he came up to me, but his intrusion would be unwelcome, I can't stand those people who find their partners so boring they insist on making another table their entertainment.

Healingsfall · 09/10/2024 13:55

Yanbu

My ex used to complain to get free food... he was so embarrassing! He'd eat most of the steak for example, then complain it was too fatty or grisly so they take money off the bill. He even complained about the metal tray some food was on once (the food was on some greaseproof type paper on the tray) saying the type of metal was poisonous and could contaminate the food. This is after he ate said food of course!

AnonymousBleep · 09/10/2024 13:49

I've got a friend who does this and it's so embarrassing. She's ridiculously critical - she once sent a pizza back as it was the wrong shape! TBF it's just how she is, which is a massive perfectionist, but for her nearest and dearest this particular habit is cringe. She often gets free drinks etc for making a fuss, but I never want them as by this point I generally want to leave or hide!

HangingOver · 09/10/2024 13:49

Blusterydaytodaypoohbear · 09/10/2024 11:24

My friend's dh used to make complaints about friend's food even when she was happy with it! It was so cringe.. He used to pay their portion of the bill in small change... Stopped at 2 meals out..... Never again. She divorced him. He refused to have his dd once when she was off school unless she sent dd with a tin of soup from her cupboard...

Dear god.

FirecrackerK · 09/10/2024 13:43

Badburyrings · 09/10/2024 13:23

OP, I think you should have used the word Critique instead of complain in your title, then I think it would make more sense what he is doing. Yes if the meal is sub standard you should complain but what you are explaining is that the meal is generally fine but he is suggesting tweaks or changes to the meal to (in his opinion) make it better.

If that is what he is doing then yes it is totally cringe worthy and makes him look a tool. I would want the ground to swallow me up if my husband did this.

Yes I find it obnoxious.

I know he won't take it well if I essentially say I won't go out to eat with him because he enjoys it so much. But my comfort matters!

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scalt · 09/10/2024 13:35

Read Roald Dahl's The Witches to see what chefs do when a customer complains about food.

TheCultureHusks · 09/10/2024 13:30

Consequences OP!

’What, the new Italian place? Oh sorry I’d rather not, I think I might go with Sue for a friends catch up actually. Sorry, you’ll only complain at the end of the meal and it spoils it really, so if you could just go with someone else maybe -?

The only way to get results. Consequences for bad behaviour!

cuddlebear · 09/10/2024 13:29

Well you need to be brutally direct with him.

Either he cuts it out, or you won’t eat out with him again.

Badburyrings · 09/10/2024 13:23

OP, I think you should have used the word Critique instead of complain in your title, then I think it would make more sense what he is doing. Yes if the meal is sub standard you should complain but what you are explaining is that the meal is generally fine but he is suggesting tweaks or changes to the meal to (in his opinion) make it better.

If that is what he is doing then yes it is totally cringe worthy and makes him look a tool. I would want the ground to swallow me up if my husband did this.