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AuroraDora · 08/10/2024 23:21

Would really appreciate objective views on this to save to save my sanity.

Didn’t notice the time. Suggested to DS that we do something together as I’d been at work and not seen him properly for a couple of days. DH pointed out to me in a different room that it was X time and so nearly bedtime. So I went into DS and said ‘dad let me know that it’s x o’clock so we don’t have much time, we can just do x instead’.

DS got cross with DH for ruining the fun. I explained he’d just pointed out the time and I hadn’t realised. I calmed it all down. It was a flash in the pan.

DH is now very very annoyed at me for ‘throwing him under the bus.’

To be clear I was just stating fact. Not blaming DH in anyway. All said lightly.

Of course this is one small thing in a more complex set of circumstances, but in of itself would you expect an angry response from your DH if you did that? It’s not a pattern of mine.

Thank you

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5128gap · 11/10/2024 11:50

I'd be thinking that your DH needed to stop being such a wet lettuce, scared of his own child being cross with him. He did a perfectly reasonable act of parenting in reminding you it was too late for the activity and should have no problem with owning that in front of his child.

GreatGardenstuff · 11/10/2024 11:01

it sounds like a mountain out of a molehill, but if you make a habit of giving excuses, or passing the buck, rather than taking responsibility when you make a mistake, then I can see why your DH overreacted.

msmatcha · 11/10/2024 09:45

You did throw him under the bus a bit. Though unwittingly I'm sure.

Littys · 11/10/2024 09:13

OP, stop tolerating being abused by your husband.
Scum like him don't change.
Focus on getting away from him with your child.
Life will be better for it.

SleepPrettyDarling · 11/10/2024 08:50

AuroraDora · 09/10/2024 14:58

Yeah. That is a whole other thread. He’s actually verbally abusive and I’ve put a boundary around it in counselling that if it doesn’t change then I’m leaving him.

I just wanted a sense of if this particular thing was a reasonable gripe on his part because it’s easy for me now to have a lens of ‘he is a verbally abusive narcissist so he must be in the wrong’. My previous lens used to be ‘it must all be me’. I’m trying to find the wise balanced lens that is neither of those extremes.

I’m not perfect so I like to check sometimes to see if I’m contributing to an unhealthy dynamic and it’s been helpful to see that, although things were all light and happy at the time, and I didn’t think about how to phrase it, it just came out, that I could have done better.

I am trying to gage what I need to work on genuinely and what is DARVO behaviour or projection that I need to boundary against.

In this case it was my unintentional (possibly subconsciously motivated) behaviour it seems, so I can work on that.

I think you are choosing your words around your DH. You are trying to give him credit for being the one to point out the time; he sees this as making him bad cop. If you didn’t, would he criticise and say ‘no, you only realised because I told you’? Are you walking on eggshells all the time? This can make you hyper vigilant and is not healthy.

theemptinessmachine · 11/10/2024 08:49

You seem to be someone who is very much in control of what you say and how you say it ( from your postings) and I would expect you to be like that in real life too. You don't come across as a cowering little mouse. You have indicated that there seems to be some issues in your marriage and I'm guessing this is how these play out in everyday life with this kind of bickering?
To answer the original question I don't think I would have phrased it like that - would just have said " oh i didn't realise how late it is". The response you gave seems at odds with the person I mentioned up post so it does leave me wondering if in fact it was deliberate or it has become part of a habit of talking like this in a game of one upmanship or part of a blame game which you maybe don't even realise?

Nanny0gg · 11/10/2024 08:45

AuroraDora · 09/10/2024 23:21

It was an AIBU? What’s going on with the critique of threads at the moment? I see it everywhere. It’s a public forum. If you don’t like what I’ve posted then move on.

I posted here to challenge myself to see if my behaviour was U and it’s helped to see things from different angles and reflect on why I said what I said and what I think about it.

That was just advice

You'll still get different perspectives on Relationships.

They're just generally phrased in a kinder way.

DuBoo · 11/10/2024 08:41

@AuroraDora I don’t see the problem.

Im always the one pointing out the time and generally being the ‘bad guy’ because DW is all about the fun and very scatter brained…

I don’t care (someone has to be organised!), and it doesn’t affect my relationship with my DS in the least and we have loads of fun.

Your son couldn’t do the activity because of the time, not because of who noticed the time- your DH is being daft.

EatSleepSleepRepeat · 11/10/2024 08:41

If you are genuinely open to challenging your viewpoint, you say in one post that you didn't notice the time because dh was an hour late cooking tea which sounds like a bit of a blame culture excuse thing to me about why it was still his fault because you did notice enough to notice he was late.

These things are often complicated - I'm not pointing blame at you or piling on or having a dig- but perhaps something to think about and whether these issues are coming up because it just isn't working.

Anyotherdude · 11/10/2024 08:35

I suppose the way you said it was interpreted by DS that it was DH’s fault that it was nearly bedtime.
Don’t know how old DS is, but if very young, this would have been a good teaching moment: Dad doesn’t control the time, so it’s not his fault!
DH also needs to grow up - if you’re just truthfully stating verbatim what he said, it’s a bit much to conflate this to you “throwing him under the bus”!

Theunamedcat · 11/10/2024 08:28

Honestly I would think it's not that deep you said what you said he used it as a stick to beat you with like he was looking for an excuse? But I came out of an abusive relationship

For example

Ex argued with me I was very passive accommodating and soothing he got frustrated because he couldn't find the thread to pick at to cause a "big argument" he then pulled ds out of my arms ripping off my fingernails one of which slightly cut his arm he then used that as an excuse to threaten me with the police and accused me of assaulting him

Escalation over nothing for no reason

Desperatelydoomscrolling · 11/10/2024 08:27

Sorry you've had some pretty ott reactions on this OP. I understand what you are trying to do. Personally I wouldn't have been as reactive to what you said as some of the people on here. Maybe if you had said 'DH says we can't do this because of the time' it would have been unfair but to say 'DH has told me the time so I think we don't have time to do this' is just factual and I don't think I would have given it much thought, especially as when your child jumped to blaming DH for noticing you clarified to him that it was your choice not his. It seems like a tiny - almost non event - that has been blown up by him to give reason to tell you what a bad person you are. I guess as shown on this thread being thought of as 'the fun police' is seriously triggering for some people Grin
Maybe more of an issue is (I'm guessing here though) you felt once DH had told you the time you were not 'allowed' to do the activity for fear of upsetting him and that came across unconsciously in your speech? Like I say, maybe projecting as I've lived with a controlling emotionally abusive partner myself and in that situation I would have been happy myself to stretch out bedtime to spend a tiny bit of time with my kid who I missed but I would have jumped to say no once I realised I would have been getting disapproval and anger from my DH for doing so. If that is the case then maybe think about the levels of control in the relationship. As a parent you get to make little choices like this on your own too and shouldn't be scared of the consequences. Like I say tho, slightly projecting so might be wrong. Either way I hope all had calmed down now and don't be too hard on yourself, everyone is clumsy with their phasing sometimes and at least you've tried to think of the other side in this.

TinyFlamingo · 11/10/2024 08:18

I think this seems a bit dramatic. I sense that he feels you use him as an excuse more frequently and reacting rather to a single incident. Is he feeling (rightly or wrongly) that he is the bad guy and you're the fun one? Or something like he's the discipline and your the nurturer? Is it that he's loosing closeness with the children and feeling "bothered".
If my son was upset by something I'd said, I'd have added, it's not Daddy stopping it, it's me, it's my decisions. If you want to be cross with someone you should be cross with me after the unintentional clumsy wording. But that's me :)

Tbh it was an accident and I'd not give it much more thought unless the other stuff you don't want to get in to, the context means it does mean something more..

AuroraDora · 11/10/2024 08:09

Thank you to everyone for posting.

It’s been helpful for me to post even though it’s irritated some that I didn’t include the context at first.

I am trying not to get polarised into positions of either ‘I am no good’ or ‘He is an abuser’ so it’s really helpful to hear that this is a grey area. Some would find it annoying and some wouldn’t.

So without opening myself up to further verbal abuse from DH by saying sorry (he would raise it again and again as evidence), I can acknowledge his request not to do it and adjust my behaviour because that’s a good thing to do, not for fear of reprisals. If that makes sense?

I will be more careful with my language for me and DC, not for fear of verbal abuse. I am choosing to be more careful, not being organised by fear of criticism.

I’ll leave it there and thanks so much to everyone who posted. It really helps to have the odd random people survey to check my own thoughts and reactions. Helps me to keep sane and rational.

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AuroraDora · 11/10/2024 08:04

Josette77 · 11/10/2024 07:08

I'm pretty sure Autumncrow was trying to be helpful. You seem quite reactive having read this full thread.

Oh. Oops. Sorry. I was feeling a bit got at so must have misinterpreted. Im living with a lot of criticism so easy for that button to get pressed.

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Boobygravy · 11/10/2024 07:31

If your ds is 12 being an hour late to bed as a one off wouldn’t really matter surely.
I would have probably done the activity anyway.

autienotnaughty · 11/10/2024 07:24

Replying based on the original op I would have said it how you said it because that's what happened? You didn't throw him under the bus. You just responded to the situation.

Loopytiles · 11/10/2024 07:18

I’m sorry your partner is abusive.

Couple’s counselling isn’t recommended if there is abuse, or hopefully you meant that you are doing counselling alone.

You say you used to see your partner’s behaviour as affected by you doing things, and your AIBU seems similar - still questioning yourself and asking MN without the context.

The problem is your partner’s abuse, which is really bad for you and DS.

Josette77 · 11/10/2024 07:08

AuroraDora · 09/10/2024 23:21

It was an AIBU? What’s going on with the critique of threads at the moment? I see it everywhere. It’s a public forum. If you don’t like what I’ve posted then move on.

I posted here to challenge myself to see if my behaviour was U and it’s helped to see things from different angles and reflect on why I said what I said and what I think about it.

I'm pretty sure Autumncrow was trying to be helpful. You seem quite reactive having read this full thread.

Kerri44 · 11/10/2024 07:04

He's over reacting....this situation happens in our house alot, I'm usually the one that acknowledges the time to my husband and he will say "Mums just said"......doesn't bother me as I just have said 🤷🏼‍♀️

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 10/10/2024 09:36

AuroraDora · 09/10/2024 23:24

If you ‘read all’ you’ll see I’ve looked at things from different angles and reflected on my own behaviour.

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Good then.

AuroraDora · 09/10/2024 23:24

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 09/10/2024 22:44

Defensive much?

If you ‘read all’ you’ll see I’ve looked at things from different angles and reflected on my own behaviour.

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AuroraDora · 09/10/2024 23:23

MartinCrieffsLemon · 09/10/2024 23:17

It's almost like you now decided you WOULD add all this DV backstory because you know that would get a different response. Like the poster who has decided from... nothing that he "screamed it from another room" now

Actually, what has happened is I got what I needed (feedback, without any context on my behaviour) and I have been a ke to work out my part and his part in the dynamic without getting pulled into polarised positions. I’m sorry if my thread hasn’t lived up to your standards.

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AuroraDora · 09/10/2024 23:21

AutumnCrow · 09/10/2024 22:28

Post on Relationships, @AuroraDora, not AIBU.

It was an AIBU? What’s going on with the critique of threads at the moment? I see it everywhere. It’s a public forum. If you don’t like what I’ve posted then move on.

I posted here to challenge myself to see if my behaviour was U and it’s helped to see things from different angles and reflect on why I said what I said and what I think about it.

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MartinCrieffsLemon · 09/10/2024 23:17

It's almost like you now decided you WOULD add all this DV backstory because you know that would get a different response. Like the poster who has decided from... nothing that he "screamed it from another room" now