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needavice888 · 2024-10-08T20:34:47+00:00

...in order to provide 24/7 suicide watch over the child which has been let down over and over by the services for months in end despite asking/crying for help over and over again.. The only solution is now to force the parent to provide 24/7 suicide watch without providing additional therapy or help ans without any regard for the parent's need to work and provide and the impact it has on siblings. Parent has no support network. What happens if parent is ignoring the safety plan and goes to work (not for a jolly but to simply earn a living and to provide for the children).

RhinestoneCowgirl · 08/10/2024 21:50

I hope the meeting is productive tomorrow @needavice888

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needavice888 · 08/10/2024 21:48

Thanks all. I had not considered hospitalisation at all. Will discuss this tomorrow in a meeting.

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Demonhunter · 08/10/2024 21:47

If they won't entertain hospitalisation, some LAs have specialist Foster carers (many tend to have mental health/psychology background) who can take children in for a short term period, while they await treatment. I agree with contacting your MP and get them involved in looking for options for you.

GuestFeatu · 08/10/2024 21:45

JLou08 · 08/10/2024 21:41

Have you explained this to them? There is SS funding available in children with disability teams for carers and respite.
Are DC on a child protection plan? What they could do is say you are failing to keep child safe if you leave them and could start legal proceedings for them to be removed (worst case scenario).
You could do with some legal advice and also advocacy for your children. SS should be able to put you in touch with advocacy and solicitors.

Respite is for children with disabilities, not suicidal children. And they are hardly going to go to court to remove the child if they have nowhere safe to put them. It's not social services who need to step in here, it's child mental health services.

RhinestoneCowgirl · 08/10/2024 21:45

I contacted my MP last week after we heard that we'd been turned down for ongoing support from CAMHS again (following DD's suicide attempt last month). She got back to me today and there are things they can do, they can put pressure on agencies for you etc.

It's exhausting though, as you're trying to look after your child, keep everything else going and battle for any support

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needavice888 · 08/10/2024 21:45

JLou08 · 08/10/2024 21:41

Have you explained this to them? There is SS funding available in children with disability teams for carers and respite.
Are DC on a child protection plan? What they could do is say you are failing to keep child safe if you leave them and could start legal proceedings for them to be removed (worst case scenario).
You could do with some legal advice and also advocacy for your children. SS should be able to put you in touch with advocacy and solicitors.

Yes , I have until I am blue on the face. I get a fucking headtilt back. a sad face and a 'oh, we are so sorry and we appreciate things are incredibly hard for you esp with work and multiple children with SN but we couldn't give a flying fuck how you manage but sadly there is nothing else we can do.

just a safety plan. no protection plan. if they wish they can remove DC at least then they have to take responsibility at last. and hopefully they will get access to therapy etc. I am at that point now.

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Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 08/10/2024 21:43

They can’t. 24 hour suicide watch = hospital or continuing health care.

MoneyAndPercentages · 08/10/2024 21:42

Sapphire387 · 08/10/2024 21:36

This all sounds odd. If the child is at such a risk, surely they should be hospitalised. I'm sorry you are in this position, it sounds awfully worrying.

Unfortunately you'd be surprised 😢

Where we are, the hospital keeps discharging the same day to a parent until the risk is severe enough, no matter how many attempts are made. The system is messed up.

JLou08 · 08/10/2024 21:41

Have you explained this to them? There is SS funding available in children with disability teams for carers and respite.
Are DC on a child protection plan? What they could do is say you are failing to keep child safe if you leave them and could start legal proceedings for them to be removed (worst case scenario).
You could do with some legal advice and also advocacy for your children. SS should be able to put you in touch with advocacy and solicitors.

MoneyAndPercentages · 08/10/2024 21:40

In theory I guess yes. My sympathies OP. Can you take any Parental Leave?

DB was on suicide watch for 2 weeks, making attempts whenever he possibly could and getting quite violent with me/DM. Kept being told nothing they could do and to keep watching him. Eventually his attempts got more and more serious until they admitted him to a psych ward but the memory of that still f**ks me up now. Until experiencing it I had no idea how useless the system is around this kind of help. As pp said maybe contact an MP? 💐

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needavice888 · 08/10/2024 21:39

I really don't know what to do. But I am at the point where I rather try my change to keep my job and hope DC doesn't do anything silly.

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RosesAndHellebores · 08/10/2024 21:38

Write to your MP. CAMHS and SS will have support in place swiftly!

RhinestoneCowgirl · 08/10/2024 21:37

I'm sorry this is happening to you, the system is completely broken

Luddite26 · 08/10/2024 21:37

You are not being unreasonable at all. You sound like you are at your limit and that is an impossible situation.💐

Sapphire387 · 08/10/2024 21:36

This all sounds odd. If the child is at such a risk, surely they should be hospitalised. I'm sorry you are in this position, it sounds awfully worrying.