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Not allowed private room

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Spamfritterss · 08/10/2024 18:50

for my birth I made it clear I wanted to pay for a private room. When giving birth 3 weeks ago I had a bit of a traumatic birth and was told I couldn’t have a private room with bed for my husband due to needing an extra eye kept on me. I was put on a noisy ward where I was placed at the end by the window the row of beds next to me all had their curtains partially closed so you couldn’t see me unless you walked down. I didn’t have someone keep an eye on me I had checks but no more than any one else. My husband and I had been awake for way over 15 hours so I sent him home as one of us had to get some sleep. The ward was full of people and partners chatting all night as well as crying babies. All I wanted was to be alone with my husband. I had no clue what I was doing couldn’t move properly and spent the whole night crying over what had just happened to me. 2 of my mum friends have just given birth and where able to have a private room. I just feel really resentful. I get they thought it was medically necessary but no one could see me and I didn’t get any extra checks

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PrincessHoneysuckle · 08/10/2024 21:36

If I had my time back I'd have paid to go private for giving birth and after care if if it had put me in debt.
I only had one dc as I found tge whole experience from sraet to finish traumatic as fuck.I still feel anxious if I read threads like this now after 10.5 years

Sleepysleepycoffeecoffee · 08/10/2024 21:31

Oh boo-hoo

surreygirl1987 · 08/10/2024 21:31

BlouseyBrownMalone · 08/10/2024 19:04

Exactly what @Chowtime says. It's not like booking a hotel room where they can guarantee that they can keep the room free.

My sister didn't even get a midwife. There was nobody available because there were two emergencies and her husband ended up delivering the baby.

Your sister's experience was awful. Just because she had that experince, it does not mean others should have similar poor experiences. Please don't normalise this.

Starzinsky · 08/10/2024 21:28

Most nhs hospitals don't have private rooms.

Ellsx6 · 08/10/2024 21:26

My local hospital don't do private rooms you can pay for and husbands can only come to the ward 9am-7pm. I was considering moving hospitals as this is my first and I'm worried I'll be scared and alone

YoucancallmeBettyDraper · 08/10/2024 21:25

If you had surgery, and lost blood, they will have needed to keep a closer eye on you.
It sounds like you’re still at the going over everything stage of mourning the birth you thought you would have. It might be worth asking for your notes and a debrief after a little time has passed. It might be revealed that there’s something in your notes that explains their rationale.

Having them explain or apologise really helps, in these cases.

OptimismvsRealism · 08/10/2024 21:25

The NHS treats women like shit. Private rooms are standard in many countries so the safety argument is nonsense. Fuck them though and don't let them ruin any more of your days than that already have.

Nsky62 · 08/10/2024 21:23

universalcredithelpplease · 08/10/2024 19:49

I've had incredibly traumatic birthing experiences with my last two.

With my first daughter I'd been kept in hospital for weeks, as she was breech and I had polyhydramnios, so waters breaking not near a theatre would be fatal.

She was born by EMCS when her heartrate dropped. She couldn't breathe properly and had to be taken to SBCU, where they sucked out the fluid and helped her breathe. I didn't see her before she was rushed off.

I was taken up to a ward after the recovery room. I was so distressed being surrounded by crying babies and their happy families, whilst my baby was on another floor and I couldn't even move to see her. She was brought to me a few hours later, but the experience gave me awful anxiety.

With my second daughter, my uterus tore, I lost 3.5 litres of blood and gave birth to a dead baby.

I was given a private suite. I'd be pretty angry if I was expected to be in a ward with living babies (it was bad enough that I could still hear them in the private suite. It wouldn't matter to me how traumatic the birth was for another mother, not if she had a baby that was warm and could cry.

Still though, it must be hard if your friends got what would have benefitted you, I can see how painful and unfair it must seem. I felt the same when I was in a ward without DD1 when others had their babies.

I was even more resentful of the mothers who had crying babies when my was silent.

How awful for you

MarigoldSpider · 08/10/2024 21:22

I am so sorry OP for a lot of the responses you have had on this thread.

I absolutely think YANBU. It’s a shame that everyone’s expectations of post natal care are so low.

I spent some time in hospital as a young adult before I had children. I had experienced of the level of observation you get on a hospital ward and that was enough to convince me to have my babies at home. I feel far safer in my own house without my DH at my side 24-7 and dedicated midwives than I would ever feel in hospital.

If you ever contemplate another baby I would really recommend looking into a home birth.

CleansUpButWouldPreferNotTo · 08/10/2024 21:19

OneRarelySeesABrazierTheseDays · Today 20:37

If you wanted a private room, you should have paid for private care from day 1
You chose NHS, but wanted the same service
Never going to happen, nor should it

Perhaps OP isn't in a position to pay for private care from day one but had the funds for a private room after the birth?

I think some people are being very hard on a new mum who just wanted to make the birth as best possible. Surely that's what everyone wants too?

NameChanged112 · 08/10/2024 21:09

so sad that people's expectations are so low. or because they experienced care below any reasonable standard they think everyone else should put up and shut up. maternity care, well let's be clear, health care generally, provided by the NHS falls below an acceptable standard a lot, if not the vast majority of the time. this does not make it ok or just the way it is. anyone with this level of acceptance or complacancy is part of the problem. if you want a private room following labour and you are willing to pay for it, that is not a big ask. developing countries can do this. people in the UK kid themselves that it's better here than elsewhere. it really isn't. it's not a lot to ask for and the fact there aren't enough private rooms for everyone who wants one (and is willing to pay extra for this "luxury") is pathetic. they should be building them, but instead maternity wards are being closed. i would have given birth in a private hospital and saved the NHS thousands if i could, but it's not an option where i live - it's the NHS or home. the monopoly the NHS has is detrimental to everyone's health and it does not work well at all. home birth was not advised and not a risk I was willing to take (yes, I concede an NHS hospital was better than no hospital). Medieval - that is the only way to describe post-labour wards. One of the most traumatic and harrowing experiences i have been through. i am still unpacking what is probably PTSD nearly 5 years later because of how awful it was and really, compared to others, my experience is very tame. i can never forgive the receptionist who dismissively told me that my new born baby was not in NICU (where i'd been told by a consultant to go because that's where they said baby had been taken). i assumed he didn't make it and that's why he hadn't been admitted. oh no, receptionist just didn't bother to check until i had a breakdown right there on the spot. turned out he was in NICU after all. 5 years later still living with the feeling in that moment of believing my newborn was dead (or possibly stolen by someone masquerading as a consultant, but dead seemed more likely). i can feel the world closing in and see everything turn grey then black as i sink into the ground, feeling crushed by the weight. i will never get that out of my head and i will never be the same again. thank you NHS, can i stop clapping now?

itzthTtimeGib · 08/10/2024 21:02

This topic is such a tricky one because I think most mums have had a birth experience that could be described as traumatic, and the spectrum for what counts as traumatic is pretty broad. I was given a private room for free for 4 days as I’d nearly died of blood loss and couldn’t even walk until day 3. My pelvic floor was also quite literally destroyed by forceps. I think I was there for my dignity more than observation to be honest.

They didn’t even say anything to me, they just wheeled me in after my baby was born, and I later realized other mums had gone to a ward on another floor.

I’d imagine this kind of thing (unfortunately) happens a lot and it’s just a case of who needs privacy most at that time.

Mydogpongs · 08/10/2024 21:02

I think everyone giving the OP a hard time needs to chill out a bit. She has just given birth and most of us here can understand that exhausted feeling. She had hoped to have a private room that she was happy to pay for but was told she couldn't and had tk stay in a busy maternity ward room. Those places are loud and impossible to rest in.

She is full of hormones after labour and is tired so calm it down! Yes some people had worse and some people have much worse but suck it up and move on!

I hope you are able to rest and enjoy your new baby @Spamfritterss

MrsMickey · 08/10/2024 21:01

OP, I hope you don’t mind me saying but I wonder if there’s a bit more to this? You mention having a traumatic birth. I did too, and a number of things went wrong afterwards as well as the issues that happened during the birth (not just didn’t get a room, during the birth my son was misdiagnosed as breach when he was oblique presentation, I was given medication I was allergic to and lots more, then afterwards lost medical records, incorrectly discharged, incorrect medication etc). Everyone kept telling me well don’t worry, you’ve got a baby now, focus on that! When the reality I was seething and resentful about how everything came about. It significantly impacted on my mental health and I wish I had recognised this sooner and sought support, it wasn’t until nearly a year afterwards and I realised I was still traumatised. So if you are feeling upset and resentful, don’t be worried about reaching out to see if you need some support

1AngelicFruitCake · 08/10/2024 20:59

OP one birth I was in agony afterwards and no clue what to do, the second I needed surgery. I didn't get the peaceful births my friend got in a lovely pool, born fairly quickly but I got my babies. It's best to put it behind you.

Ghosttofu99 · 08/10/2024 20:59

Spamfritterss · 08/10/2024 20:28

They said due to how bad my both was I needed an extra eye kept on me by the midwives but I didn’t have any extra checks compared to others and I couldn’t be seen as next to me had there curtain up.

It sounds like an understandably upsetting experience. However, unless you witnessed the labours of all the other women on that ward with you how, would you know they hadn’t had equally traumatic births and required the same amount of checks as yourself?

DanielaDressen · 08/10/2024 20:55

Some hospitals have a policy of not letting women who have had a lscs or a pph, etc in a private room for 24 hours due to needing closer observation. The hospital I work at has this as a policy. I do think it’s a bit bonkers as my SIL had a baby at a hospital with no mays on the pn ward, only single rooms. 🤷‍♀️

at my hospital the idea is if you need help and can’t press the buzzer maybe you could shout and someone else in the bay gets help. Or you collapse and someone else in the bay notices (more likely in the day I guess). Also you may not have had more formal “ checks” than anyone else but as a midwife is going to be in and out the bay she may well just be casting a glance through the curtain to see you’re ok. I know I do this and often the person is unaware they’ve been checked on, especially at night when I’m trying not to disturb them.

im sorry you had a bad time, I totally agree that pn wards are not a nice place to be.

Perplexin · 08/10/2024 20:49

3 kids and I was only once put in a private room. Partially because of medical problems during birth but mostly because I would've been one of the only women on the ward without their baby with them.
Mine was in the NICU and instead of putting me on a ward hearing nothing but newborns, I was placed where I couldn't hear them.
This was a decision made moments after it was decided I was having my baby that day.
My experience was NHS but maybe those private rooms were being reserved for others who had a less than ideal birth experience like me but hadn't had their baby when you saw them empty.

YeahWellWhyNot · 08/10/2024 20:47

I would say there was a need / requirement for you to be there OP although I get you were disappointed. It's hard when you have an image in your head of how things will go and then it's turned upside down. I'm not going to explain my story but I DID get an unrequested private room because after the birth of my son, he and I showed signs of a serious illness and we were quarantined in there - not for our sake but to protect the people on the ward. No extra checks, I was actually very very isolated but nothing I could do, we weren't allowed out the room and my husband had strict visiting times plus no other visitors AT ALL. Just adding because there may be a multitude of reasons why you didn't get what you wanted. and before someone says it, it wasn't COVID just rotten luck!

And congrats OP 😊 concentrate on your little bundle!

Hellodaisy29 · 08/10/2024 20:45

YABU. You need to accept that there were clinical reasons for you to be on the open ward - respect that decision made by staff in your best interests.

You are not entitled to a single room just because you are willing to pay and there are many women in even worse situations than you who are also often left in an open bay on a post natal ward despite also wanting a single room, for example mothers who have been separated from their poorly babies who are in NICU, and mothers who have lost their babies.

You sound really self entitled, please take a reality check.

Nolyty · 08/10/2024 20:44

I honestly cannot believe the nastiness on this thread.

The OP has clearly said that you can pay for a private room, and that 4 were obviously empty - but she was told she couldn't have one because they needed to monitor her regularly. They seemingly then did not perform any extra checks, according to OP.

Nowhere does OP say that she expected a free private room, or that she expected those with more complex medical or emotional needs to give up rooms for her. Jesus Christ.

OP - my hospital was like yours. They told me I could pay for a private room, and like you, was told I couldn't have one because they needed to check me more regularly. I'd had a C-section. Luckily it was all very straightforward so I wasn't too upset by this, but I can absolutely understand the disappointment. I ended up staying in an additional night and they moved me into a private room then. It was heaven compared to the main ward.

I understand. Sending you lots of love and hugs. I hope you're enjoying your newborn bubble.

Suzuki70 · 08/10/2024 20:43

This is fairly common. Whether or not they did extra checks, if anything happened to you in a private room they'd be in the shit. When I was on the children's ward with DS they put us in a private room but literally the moment a ward bed became free we got moved because he was in for oxygen/ECG/hourly checks.

The postnatal wards are terrible though so YANBU for hating the experience. I think the trusts set them up to be awful on purpose so you get out faster.

bringslight · 08/10/2024 20:41

Hm. Had to stay in Guildford hospital for few more days , loved the ward, the curtains, the bed, the parents, the babies, the new wonder of everything

Floralnomad · 08/10/2024 20:40

If you want to guarantee a private room pay for a private delivery in a private hospital .

Hollietree · 08/10/2024 20:39

This was available in the London hospital that I gave birth in. It was however made very clear to me that the private rooms were on a first come first served basis. Unfortunately there wasn’t one available on the night I gave birth. My cousin gave birth a year later and was lucky enough to get a private room….. I felt happy for her fortune, not resentful and hard done by!

If you want a guaranteed private room then you need to book and pay for a fully private hospital.

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