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To burn my house down TRiGGER WARNING spiders

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moleymoley1 · 08/10/2024 18:42

As of last week I’ve been finding little black spiders everywhere in my house mainly by my back door and bathroom. They are tiny like money spiders but I literally have loads. I picked up my kittens bed and there was about 3 under there. I’m now worrying there was a mummy spider somewhere and has hatched eggs into my house 🫣 I’ve attached a picture for context

To burn my house down TRiGGER WARNING spiders
To burn my house down TRiGGER WARNING spiders
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Dustyblue · 11/10/2024 06:45

@WiddlinDiddlin Awesome info! I'm Australian so I'm guessing the species here differ somewhat?

Most common here are Huntsman's which can be quite some size!! but are regarded as harmless. Also you don't typically get more than 1 or 2 in the house at a time for some reason? I tend to leave them to it, or sometimes do the trick of putting a tupperware container over them and sliding a magazine under it, to trap them and take them outside.

'Daddy Long Legs' are common, we were taught that they're poisonous, but their fangs aren't strong enough to bite you. Seems to be a total myth!

Then of course there's the red back, highly poisonous. I've never seen one inside, only ever found them in the garden when lifting up rocks, wood etc.

And of course the funnel web, highly poisonous, never seen one in 50 years. As kids we were taught to shake our shoes out before putting them on 😃

Sorry to derail OP, I do understand your concern about "Where is the Mummy spider??"

AlaskaThunderfuckHiiiiiiiii · 10/10/2024 07:33

Ok so we have had massive ones this year and hardly any last year which is not helping my fear but can someone clear this up for me?
house spiders are in your house all the time and only come out to mate? I see people always say oh it’s because it’s cold and they want shelter or something but I was always told they just live in your house all the time and therefore it’s cruel to relocate outside as they die?

I keep the spindly ones as I can just about put up with them out of the way and I have seen them eat the big house spiders with my own eyes!

LabFab · 10/10/2024 03:19

I mix some peppermint essential oil with water and spritz around all windows and doorframes regularly (it smells so nice as well), but having LOTS of cellar spiders around (the only ones that don't bother me) helps more than anything.

LoudGreyBalonz · 10/10/2024 01:31

WiddlinDiddlin · 08/10/2024 20:42

Sorry peeps, spiders couldn't give a shit about conkers.

Most critters don't like things like lavender, peppermint oil, neem, tea tree etc - they're toxic to arthropods (actually they're toxic to most beings in sufficient quantity or inappropriate application), however mating season tends to over ride any of the deterrents.

You're seeing more spiders because its autumn and many spiders are now breeding, males out looking for love, running themselves into the ground to find Mrs Right Now I (Probably) Won't Eat You (literally they won't eat or drink in many cases and will cark it of exhaustion before they find their one true love).

I think your spider is Amaurobius ferox, male. Not a baby certainly, he has adult pedipalps (the boxing glove like jobbies in front of his face) but the photo isn't really good enough to tell more than 'its an adult male spider'.)

Spiderlings of most species, at the dispersal stage are absolutely tiny, head of a pin job, you'll barely notice them.

Hoover often. Don't have piles of stuff that the females of many species like to hide under, then you won't attract males (well, you wll unless you regularly lift the floorboards and skirting boards and hoover under those, a step most folk think is too far)...

Pesticides will kill them of course, leaving your home a veritable playground for all sorts of species that will trash your stuff and bite you when it wears off... but if you're scared of spiders that probably over-rides that issue.

If you can stand to, and have them, leave 'cellar spiders' (Pholcus phalangiodes if you want to google it to be sure, often called daddy long legs though this is just an example of how common names lead to misunderstandings as that name is used for opilones and a fly species too) alone - they will eat anything that wanders their way, including spiders vastly bigger than them (they really really like eating other spiders. And if their own numbers get too big they will snack on each other too).

My 'interesting' spider collection here has risen enormously since I started evicting the cellar spiders.

For those really terrified of spiders - move around and stomp.

A lot of our spiders (really, all of them barring the jumping spiders which you've probably never even noticed as ours are small and fairly dull) have really shitty eyesight, seeing just light/dark and movement.

They may appear to run AT you because you represent a big fixed object, your shadow offers what they believe is safety, so they run towards you to hide, not realising you actually represent danger.

Our big house spiders do the 'sprint and stop' thing because they have little stamina and are basically knackered and need to recharge, they're not plotting their next move as such or sizing you up as a potential victim. In a few weeks you may see more of this behaviour as they get dehydrated and fatigued in their almost always fatal hunt for a lady.

It is very very difficult for a spider to bite you - not because their fangs can't penetrate skin, most of the big ones can.

Its because their fangs lie flat against their underside, to use them they need to get above a small target, lift and then stab. Doing so to a large target like a human is like you trying to bite a chunk out of a double decker bus... extremely difficult, the angles are all wrong.

Humans therefore are typically only bitten when the spider is squashed against a person - so shake out duvets and clothing and shoes, and wear gloves if you're going rummaging in leaf litter.

Here endeth the spider lesson. Hang tight as they will all mostly bugger off over the next four weeks and most of the ones you see are destined to die of starvation, and those who survive and get to meet a lady... are getting all the joy of being an Amazon delivery bloke as spider 'sex' is really just them handing over a package of goo. Zero fun, and then death. Be smug you are not a spider?

Really enjoyed this post, thanks for taking the time!

WiddlinDiddlin · 09/10/2024 04:03

Kilroywashere · 09/10/2024 00:35

@WiddlinDiddlin Thanks for your info about spiders. Never realised that was a cellar spider, I assumed cave and cellar spiders were alternative names for the same creature - we have cave spiders in the garden which are much more robust - they live in an old underground wartime shelter.

Oooh I am jealous - only ever found cave spiders in canal tunnels (and not caves which I am quite familiar with and have definitely been in more caves than canal tunnels!) Yes they're a very different make and model (a much prettier spider in my opinion!) to the cellar spider!

WiddlinDiddlin · 09/10/2024 04:00

HermoniePotter · 08/10/2024 23:23

You always get spider lovers and spider haters on here, it’s the same every year. I use Indorex or squash them. The spider lovers will save them the haters will kill them, spiders will always exist, they’re no loss to society no matter what MN users say. They’re creepy little fuckers and I have no hesitation in making sure none of them invade my living space.

Edited to add I disagree with @WiddlinDiddlin. Spiders do bite as I was bitten by a spider in the UK. They are not harmless but people like this poster who have never been on the receiving end of a spider bite will always profess to them being “harmless”.

Edited

I didn't say they couldn't bite (in fact I did say they could) - and I have been bitten by both a false widow and a garden spider...

In the process of proving to someone that they indeed could and would, if provoked, bite. Yes, a very stupid thing to do and not very nice for the spiders, what can I say, I was a pretty irritating teenager.

Both hurt a bit less than a wasp sting or horsefly bite but more than a mosquito.

Both resulted in a slightly raised red, slightly itchy (not like a mozzie or flea bite though) lump that faded after a few days.

To get both to bite, I had to hold them firmly and poke my finger underneath at their mouth parts, they were extremely reluctant to bite so it took several goes.

Caswallonthefox · 09/10/2024 01:16

I currently have a village of spiders in my kitchen. 2 above my window, 1 in my toaster, 1 near the edge of the window and 1 was underneath a piece of artwork pinned to a Cork board. I also have 2 in my dining room and at least 2 in my hallway.
They just hide and come out in the early hours of the morning to admire the view. They leave my bedroom alone, which I'm truly grateful for.
I've only ever seen false widows and cellar spiders.

MidnightMeltdown · 09/10/2024 01:08

Sorry OP you'll have to move out. This house belongs to the spiders now.

caringcarer · 09/10/2024 00:56

Find some conkers and place Several of them on every window sills in your house. Spiders don't like their smell so keep away.

Kilroywashere · 09/10/2024 00:35

@WiddlinDiddlin Thanks for your info about spiders. Never realised that was a cellar spider, I assumed cave and cellar spiders were alternative names for the same creature - we have cave spiders in the garden which are much more robust - they live in an old underground wartime shelter.

Mirren22 · 09/10/2024 00:11

I'm curious why not let them be? Is it because you have a phobia? I see spiders as there to eat the bugs and I have two resident spiders by my front door and one at the back door and they just live there, sometimes they get a bit scared when I am too close but otherwise they sit and sleep there and eat the bugs

TealPoet · 08/10/2024 23:56

No advice, just sympathy. I’m bed bound and my mother dropped a spider on me earlier today. ‘Oh you were saying it was building a web above you and sounded like you wanted help’. Well yes I did want help, but that wasn’t helpful! It’s still somewhere in bed with me as far as I know 😰

QueenCamilla · 08/10/2024 23:37

There can easily be 4-5 million of spiders per hectare of land. Yeah, so I'm not too precious.

I also bought a semi-abandoned house with an infestation.3 spiders per inch on every surface, whole place webbed up like it's Halloween, spider eating spider... They'll take your house given a chance! 🕸️😁

Waiting9 · 08/10/2024 23:25

I’m not sure about whether the spiders in your house are hatching/breeding. I don’t know enough about spiders but I remember watching a video where one spider literally produced hundreds of mini spiders, so I think if you’re only seeing 1-2 here and there, you might be okay.

Personally I have a low tolerance to bugs in my home. I just use raid spray and a hoover to get rid of them.

HermoniePotter · 08/10/2024 23:23

You always get spider lovers and spider haters on here, it’s the same every year. I use Indorex or squash them. The spider lovers will save them the haters will kill them, spiders will always exist, they’re no loss to society no matter what MN users say. They’re creepy little fuckers and I have no hesitation in making sure none of them invade my living space.

Edited to add I disagree with @WiddlinDiddlin. Spiders do bite as I was bitten by a spider in the UK. They are not harmless but people like this poster who have never been on the receiving end of a spider bite will always profess to them being “harmless”.

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 08/10/2024 23:14

moleymoley1 · 08/10/2024 18:57

😭😭😭 there going to grow into huge house spiders aren’t they

God help you but I think they are F*ing monsters in the making. 😱

Latenightreader · 08/10/2024 23:14

This post has just reminded me that I forgot to defenestrate the enormous spider which strolled along the shower curtain rail this morning when I was mid wash. Its legs were struggling to grip and kept skittering but I couldn't make a grab for it without scaring my daughter (also showering). I managed to trap it under a mug but then left for work and have only just got home. It's going to eat me in my sleep, isn't it...

whyamiawakestillitssolate · 08/10/2024 23:10

I’m pretty spider phobic but I’ve learnt to quite like cellar spiders since I found out they eat the horrible big house spiders and I happily allow a fair number of them to call my home their home too. Their rubbish webs are a bit of a pain though!

However I cant stand the huge fat bodied monsters that we keep getting in at the minute - my DH calmly carries them outside in his hands whilst commenting on how he can feel their legs and how strong they are pushing to get out 🤢🤢🤢

DoTheRoary · 08/10/2024 23:07

I'm sorry what now? Arachnids aren't all spiders? Mind blown and off to Google...

Whateveryouwant1 · 08/10/2024 22:57

WiddlinDiddlin · 08/10/2024 20:42

Sorry peeps, spiders couldn't give a shit about conkers.

Most critters don't like things like lavender, peppermint oil, neem, tea tree etc - they're toxic to arthropods (actually they're toxic to most beings in sufficient quantity or inappropriate application), however mating season tends to over ride any of the deterrents.

You're seeing more spiders because its autumn and many spiders are now breeding, males out looking for love, running themselves into the ground to find Mrs Right Now I (Probably) Won't Eat You (literally they won't eat or drink in many cases and will cark it of exhaustion before they find their one true love).

I think your spider is Amaurobius ferox, male. Not a baby certainly, he has adult pedipalps (the boxing glove like jobbies in front of his face) but the photo isn't really good enough to tell more than 'its an adult male spider'.)

Spiderlings of most species, at the dispersal stage are absolutely tiny, head of a pin job, you'll barely notice them.

Hoover often. Don't have piles of stuff that the females of many species like to hide under, then you won't attract males (well, you wll unless you regularly lift the floorboards and skirting boards and hoover under those, a step most folk think is too far)...

Pesticides will kill them of course, leaving your home a veritable playground for all sorts of species that will trash your stuff and bite you when it wears off... but if you're scared of spiders that probably over-rides that issue.

If you can stand to, and have them, leave 'cellar spiders' (Pholcus phalangiodes if you want to google it to be sure, often called daddy long legs though this is just an example of how common names lead to misunderstandings as that name is used for opilones and a fly species too) alone - they will eat anything that wanders their way, including spiders vastly bigger than them (they really really like eating other spiders. And if their own numbers get too big they will snack on each other too).

My 'interesting' spider collection here has risen enormously since I started evicting the cellar spiders.

For those really terrified of spiders - move around and stomp.

A lot of our spiders (really, all of them barring the jumping spiders which you've probably never even noticed as ours are small and fairly dull) have really shitty eyesight, seeing just light/dark and movement.

They may appear to run AT you because you represent a big fixed object, your shadow offers what they believe is safety, so they run towards you to hide, not realising you actually represent danger.

Our big house spiders do the 'sprint and stop' thing because they have little stamina and are basically knackered and need to recharge, they're not plotting their next move as such or sizing you up as a potential victim. In a few weeks you may see more of this behaviour as they get dehydrated and fatigued in their almost always fatal hunt for a lady.

It is very very difficult for a spider to bite you - not because their fangs can't penetrate skin, most of the big ones can.

Its because their fangs lie flat against their underside, to use them they need to get above a small target, lift and then stab. Doing so to a large target like a human is like you trying to bite a chunk out of a double decker bus... extremely difficult, the angles are all wrong.

Humans therefore are typically only bitten when the spider is squashed against a person - so shake out duvets and clothing and shoes, and wear gloves if you're going rummaging in leaf litter.

Here endeth the spider lesson. Hang tight as they will all mostly bugger off over the next four weeks and most of the ones you see are destined to die of starvation, and those who survive and get to meet a lady... are getting all the joy of being an Amazon delivery bloke as spider 'sex' is really just them handing over a package of goo. Zero fun, and then death. Be smug you are not a spider?

Wow I love this 🩷

Moonshiners · 08/10/2024 22:41

Jesswebster01 · 08/10/2024 19:45

I bought a spider spray and it worked well. I went round one night sprayed it round all the skirting boards door frames and any gaps that there were the next day there were alot of dead ones. I don't like the thought of killing them but I'm terrified of them. If I ever open a window I make sure to spray round. Just Google spider spray it is in a red can.

Don't kill them 😭

sarahzbaker · 08/10/2024 22:40

Look upon them as house pets I don't particularly love them but they come in to breed in colder weather. They certainly don't want you - yuk
They want lady spiders
They will go out later and kill pests
MMMM

WiddlinDiddlin · 08/10/2024 22:18

Ohhhhhh... one section round body...

Sorry, avert eyes now for those averse to geeking

Thats an opilione or in your case... lots of opiliones.

An arachnid, but not a spider, their bodies are fused, they have two eyes set on top of the head, often up on a turret sort of formation (very extremely so in some species).

They can ditch a leg in times of crisis (and I mean, who wouldn't wanna be able to do that) which will keep on kicking, and this can confuse a (very stupid) predator into thinking they have a delicious meal, whilst the rest of the opilione has it away on his other tooties, to fight another day.

Not that they really fight, they will hunt (small squishy things like aphids and collembola) but they are mainly detritivores, scoffing all manner of decaying matter of any origin really.

They don't have fangs like spiders, they have teeny weeny itty bitty little lobster claw type things, very good for scavenging (but shit for hunting anything that could fight back).

They are fascinating little buggers, theres a lot of them, mostly following the 'small round body, redonkulous leggage' plan but some have large spikey bodies and shorter rather curly looking legs... and the aforementioned eyes on turrets thing..

They've been around (sit down and hold onto your hat) about 400 MILLION years and we still have extant species that look like fossil remains. They're that good, they're a case of 'it ain't broke, don't fix it'!

So they actually pre-date spiders by quite some way!

They will adore leaf litter, the things that live in leaf litter and the rotting leaf litter itself.

LuluBlakey1 · 08/10/2024 22:13

WiddlinDiddlin · 08/10/2024 21:51

Some of our spiders can go a couple of years or so.

We had a False Widow (Steatoda Nobilis) here who lived in the fanlight glass above the door to our loo, so sitting on the loo you could see her web and what she was up to..

We watched her for just over two and a half years, from juvenile, through several moultings (imagine trying to take off a set of super tight leggings, doing the 'standing on the trousers' dance... but with 8 legs and no hands!)... through major hunting missions (all the way to the light fitting to catch a wasp, drag it through the holes in the lampshade and winch it to her web).

We saw her flirting with boys and co-habiting whilst they freeloaded (male Steatoda are proper cock-lodgers if they can get away with it) off her, eating the prey her web caught. Til she got fed up and ate them...

Sadly she never laid an egg sac and eventually died of old age. Her name was Borisette and I genuinely was sad, we'd got to watch most of her life. We gave her water when one summer was too hot (bits of bog roll soaked in water and plopped on the window frame), I chased a few dastardly Pholcus away, brought her fruit flies when she was elderly. Genuinely miss that spider, we haven't had another set up home there since and whilst others have come and gone around the house, have not had one stick around THAT long!

@LuluBlakey1 - Pholcus are typically indoor jobs, but you may be seeing a Tetragnatha sp. - long thin body, long thin spindley legs. They often sit with four legs pushed out front and four pushed straight backwards along the abdomen and some are a lovely shade of green with a sort of carpety pattern. They like trees and washing lines and wooden fence tops.

That said, pholcus are hard as nails and an outdoor colony in a sheltered spot is not impossible!

I would have called it a Harvestman- is that the same as pholocus?