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To really dislike Bridget Phillipson?

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Sensiblyplease · 08/10/2024 13:09

I just absolutely can’t stand the woman.

The lady seems to be making decisions based on personal prejudices and causing intentional division in our education system.
She’s not listening to anyone, and the consequences her decisions are having is far too impactful to ignore. As someone in her power she should model balanced politics, based on evidence, instead of in-sighting hate and division.

My children are in state school- we’ve had 3
more children come into their year group with SEN but no EHCPs as their previous independent schools could cope without one. The parents inform me it’ll take a few years and that’s if they get one- and then they can either go back to their previous independent school (as apparently they won’t have to pay VAT with an ECHP?) or have the help they need according to the results of the ECHP.

Im just so angry. I have nothing against these children and can understand they can’t afford the VAT increase and needed to move back into state schools, but it’s now really disrupted the class. The TA is apparently out the class all the time now and the class teacher has 32 children on her own. It appears that Bridget’s insistence and personal hate against the private sector is damaging to state school children. It’s really pissing me off - our children’s education is important and not to be messed around with.

I feel like the woman likes a good headline but is prepared to throw our children’s education away in order to meet her personal objectives / vendettas.

What is she actually doing for state schools? Her headline grabbing titles is deflecting from her actually trying to improve state education in any meaningful and impactful way. 6500 teachers - so my kids get 1/3 of a teacher for their school? That’s shocking. More children entering the state system now puts pressure on their school, and their teachers. What is she actually doing to address this. Where is she magic-ing these trained and qualified teachers from? What is she doing to retain teachers and help with their current work load?

I’m fed up with her agenda effecting normal people. We need someone with a level head to sort schools out. End of rant!

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goodluckbinbin · 10/10/2024 07:58

GreenTeaLikesMe · 10/10/2024 07:21

And this is Labour's fault how, exactly?

We've just had 14 years of Conservative government, and sorry to be blunt but they have done a shit job of boosting growth and productivity.

The UK is also grappling with the issues facing all developed countries worldwide - aging populations, the aftermath of covid, the need to fund decarbonization and the end of the "peace dividend" as more and more money has to be spent on security. Those things aren't the fault of Labour either.

Exactly. These private school parents don’t seem to be able to seem past the end of their own noses!!

Morph22010 · 10/10/2024 07:42

I think you are focussing on the wrong thing. To me it’s more a question of why these parents of three Sen children felt they had no choice but to send their children to private school for the last however many years.

the way schools are funded for Sen, overall funding to schools and the way schools are graded has given an incentive to schools to get rid of or not accept in the first place children with Sen over the last 10 plus years.

in very simple terms children aren’t supported in mainstream, their needs worsen they end in specialist, there’s been an explosion in indepdent specialists as the state specialist sector can’t meet demand. fees in indepdent Specialists are £50k-£100k per child which are paid by the council plus transport which often doubles the cost. these are the costs that are bankrupting councils. For many of these children if funds had been used earlier on to support in mainstream they may still be in mainstream. There’s also the issue of the focus on academia over anything else over last 10-15 years which has made the issue worse.

we are where we are now, this issue has build up over 10-15 years with cuts of support at the lower end, there is no quick fix for older children damage has been done.

i don’t particularly agree with vat on school fees but what is really riling me at the minute is people using Sen as it’s suits their cause when they haven’t given a shit about Sen children or Sen funding for the last 15 years as it didn’t effect them. I do sympathise with parents with children with Sen who are having to pull their children out of independents but where were the people supporting them when they had to make the decision to send them there in first place. I’ve seen more threads on Mumsnet over the last six months about Sen in relation to school fees than I have about Sen funding in total over the last 10 years.

also not sure if it’s been mentioned as not got time to read full thread but the ehcp won’t mean they save vat as vat is still charged for children with ehcps.

Another76543 · 10/10/2024 07:34

BIossomtoes · 10/10/2024 07:17

We had 14 years of your “living nightmare”, it’s your turn now.

I’m not sure if you realise, but any tax rises affect all of us, not just those who didn’t vote Labour.

MoneyNeverSleeps · 10/10/2024 07:32

GreenTeaLikesMe · 10/10/2024 07:21

And this is Labour's fault how, exactly?

We've just had 14 years of Conservative government, and sorry to be blunt but they have done a shit job of boosting growth and productivity.

The UK is also grappling with the issues facing all developed countries worldwide - aging populations, the aftermath of covid, the need to fund decarbonization and the end of the "peace dividend" as more and more money has to be spent on security. Those things aren't the fault of Labour either.

Much of what you assert is valid.

There is a material distinction however.

Labour were evasive during campaigning and disingenuous since. They are clearly content to
pander to the unions and will be unable to fund commitments without tax raids or increasing debt.

Playing a difficult hand badly springs to
mind.

I hope that Kemi gets the nod just to see her take Starmer apart.

MoneyNeverSleeps · 10/10/2024 07:28

BIossomtoes · 10/10/2024 07:17

We had 14 years of your “living nightmare”, it’s your turn now.

You will not see 14 years of a Labour Govt., especially if they alienate their core with a fresh bout of austerity.

MoneyNeverSleeps · 10/10/2024 07:26

Another76543 · 10/10/2024 07:14

It’ll be interesting where she will get it from because she’s ruled out income tax/NIC/VAT rises. Unless of course she breaks this pre election pledge.

Sunak, for his faults, persistently called out Starmer during campaigning.

GreenTeaLikesMe · 10/10/2024 07:21

MoneyNeverSleeps · 10/10/2024 06:27

Meanwhile, this living nightmare of Labour continues.

‘Rachel Reeves must raise taxes by as much as £25bn in order to ensure Britain does not return to austerity, the IFS has warned’.

And this is Labour's fault how, exactly?

We've just had 14 years of Conservative government, and sorry to be blunt but they have done a shit job of boosting growth and productivity.

The UK is also grappling with the issues facing all developed countries worldwide - aging populations, the aftermath of covid, the need to fund decarbonization and the end of the "peace dividend" as more and more money has to be spent on security. Those things aren't the fault of Labour either.

EasternStandard · 10/10/2024 07:19

Another76543 · 10/10/2024 07:14

It’ll be interesting where she will get it from because she’s ruled out income tax/NIC/VAT rises. Unless of course she breaks this pre election pledge.

I just heard employer NIC floated on R4

BIossomtoes · 10/10/2024 07:17

MoneyNeverSleeps · 10/10/2024 06:27

Meanwhile, this living nightmare of Labour continues.

‘Rachel Reeves must raise taxes by as much as £25bn in order to ensure Britain does not return to austerity, the IFS has warned’.

We had 14 years of your “living nightmare”, it’s your turn now.

Another76543 · 10/10/2024 07:14

MoneyNeverSleeps · 10/10/2024 06:27

Meanwhile, this living nightmare of Labour continues.

‘Rachel Reeves must raise taxes by as much as £25bn in order to ensure Britain does not return to austerity, the IFS has warned’.

It’ll be interesting where she will get it from because she’s ruled out income tax/NIC/VAT rises. Unless of course she breaks this pre election pledge.

MoneyNeverSleeps · 10/10/2024 06:27

Meanwhile, this living nightmare of Labour continues.

‘Rachel Reeves must raise taxes by as much as £25bn in order to ensure Britain does not return to austerity, the IFS has warned’.

MoneyNeverSleeps · 10/10/2024 06:25

JaneEyreLaughing · 09/10/2024 23:29

lLt me correct that for you. I'm not obsessed with penises but I'm pretty concerned that we have a Minister who believes some women have a penis.
That means that she believes that men (for that is what transwomen are) should be allowed into women's spaces, sports and take women's awards.
She firmly believes this

I infer from your silly sneering tone that you are either a transwoman (man) or a woman who has-like the Minister has-not got the brains to think it through.

All women should be concerned about this and when any poster comes onto a board to sneer at women for being concerned that magical thinking will filter even more quickly into society, needs to take themselves away by the hand-or the prick as they probably have one.

That is why I dislike Bridget Phillipson and why I believe she is a danger to the young.

End of.

Edited

Great post.

JaneEyreLaughing · 09/10/2024 23:29

thepariscrimefiles · 09/10/2024 17:38

Why are you obsessed with penises? It's not healthy.

lLt me correct that for you. I'm not obsessed with penises but I'm pretty concerned that we have a Minister who believes some women have a penis.
That means that she believes that men (for that is what transwomen are) should be allowed into women's spaces, sports and take women's awards.
She firmly believes this

I infer from your silly sneering tone that you are either a transwoman (man) or a woman who has-like the Minister has-not got the brains to think it through.

All women should be concerned about this and when any poster comes onto a board to sneer at women for being concerned that magical thinking will filter even more quickly into society, needs to take themselves away by the hand-or the prick as they probably have one.

That is why I dislike Bridget Phillipson and why I believe she is a danger to the young.

End of.

goodluckbinbin · 09/10/2024 20:14

thepariscrimefiles · 09/10/2024 17:38

Why are you obsessed with penises? It's not healthy.

Fucking hell
Some MN posters really can drag ‘trans’ into anything. Even a debate on whether or not businesses should pay proper tax. It’s a skill,
a niche one, but a skill all the same…

goodluckbinbin · 09/10/2024 20:12

thepariscrimefiles · 09/10/2024 16:12

Well she went to Oxford, so she probably can read a bit. I bet you miss Gavin Williamson as Secretary of State for Education. He was an incompetent bully which sounds right up your street.

I’m not sure he could read, actually… WC kids who get into Oxbridge… still pretty hard now, 20 odd years ago even harder.

FourSeasonsLobelia · 09/10/2024 18:43

Not obsessed with penises. but quite interested in biological reality and the fucking numpties who deny it for their own political advantage. To the detriment if the truly vulnerable. Because the only people who do so are self serving liars who cannot be trusted. At All.

thepariscrimefiles · 09/10/2024 17:38

JaneEyreLaughing · 09/10/2024 16:17

I don't care if she went to Oxford or Gas Street Comp-she doesn't realise that only men have a penis.
It's written down in lots of places, so she is either wilfully ignorant or illiterate.
Any woman who thinks women have a penis is stupid. There is the cap, Biddy, put it on-the big white one with Dunce written on it.

Why are you obsessed with penises? It's not healthy.

MoneyNeverSleeps · 09/10/2024 16:39

Oh look, what’s this?

Bridget Phillipson accused of hypocrisy after playing hockey on private school pitch.

Education Secretary claimed students don’t ‘need’ astroturf…

MoneyNeverSleeps · 09/10/2024 16:34

Boohoo76 · 09/10/2024 16:32

I don’t care where they went to school as long as they do a decent job. It’s you who have a problem with where people went to school. The worst prime minister that we’ve had in recent years went to a Yorkshire comp but I don’t hold that against everyone who went to a Yorkshire comp.

DJ has some unresolved issues with anything PS related.

FYI.

Boohoo76 · 09/10/2024 16:32

DadJoke · 09/10/2024 15:45

When 60% of the cabinet attended the same handful of schools, there is clearly a problem. Can’t you see that?

I don’t care where they went to school as long as they do a decent job. It’s you who have a problem with where people went to school. The worst prime minister that we’ve had in recent years went to a Yorkshire comp but I don’t hold that against everyone who went to a Yorkshire comp.

Boohoo76 · 09/10/2024 16:28

goodluckbinbin · 09/10/2024 15:37

I wasn't suggesting I was CURRENTLY subsiding - it was a response to 'ooh big bad Labour will make you pay more tax' - which is fine by me, because we all need to. And people who claim to be 'saving' 'taxpayer money ... CLEARLY don't understand how the tax system works... if that is the case somehow, then I have saved the taxpayer tons from being healthy and barely bothering the NHS, never needing any kind of benefit not even child benefit, and rarely bothering the state for owt. Well, o far anyway.
But that isn't how it works, is it??

How will you be subsidising private school parents by paying more tax? You are talking nonsense.

I understand how the tax system works perfectly well thank you. It’s you who seem to be confused about subsidies.

JaneEyreLaughing · 09/10/2024 16:17

thepariscrimefiles · 09/10/2024 16:12

Well she went to Oxford, so she probably can read a bit. I bet you miss Gavin Williamson as Secretary of State for Education. He was an incompetent bully which sounds right up your street.

I don't care if she went to Oxford or Gas Street Comp-she doesn't realise that only men have a penis.
It's written down in lots of places, so she is either wilfully ignorant or illiterate.
Any woman who thinks women have a penis is stupid. There is the cap, Biddy, put it on-the big white one with Dunce written on it.

MoneyNeverSleeps · 09/10/2024 16:13

thepariscrimefiles · 09/10/2024 16:12

Well she went to Oxford, so she probably can read a bit. I bet you miss Gavin Williamson as Secretary of State for Education. He was an incompetent bully which sounds right up your street.

Williamson was/is a tool - no debate there.

thepariscrimefiles · 09/10/2024 16:12

JaneEyreLaughing · 08/10/2024 19:48

She also believes that some women have a penis. She is a dolt and I would be surprised if she can read.

Well she went to Oxford, so she probably can read a bit. I bet you miss Gavin Williamson as Secretary of State for Education. He was an incompetent bully which sounds right up your street.

MoneyNeverSleeps · 09/10/2024 16:12

DadJoke · 09/10/2024 16:03

In the longer term, no.

Pure guesswork.

The markets disagree with you.

Oh and here’s another one you will like.
These brainiacs schedule a FID meeting before the budget, and guess what - a number of high profiles have declined.

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