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Neighbour issues

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Amumof287 · 08/10/2024 10:06

Iv posted before about my neighbour who sent me a letter complaining about my little boy kicking his ball over her fence. The outcome was that we stopped him doing it. Bought him a bigger goal net which solved the issue. Prior to the letter we’ve never ever had any complaints from our neighbour. We’ve always been friendly and they had never indicated an issue.

we live on a small estate built in the 60s. We’re on a cul-de-sac. It’s a very wide road. All the houses are detached. There are no parking restrictions and there are no parking issues whatsoever on the road. Everyone has a driveway for at least one car. The road is quiet and nobody parks on it for other uses other than visiting or living there. There is a turning circle at the end of the road which my neighbour lives next to. The kerb outside my house and neighbours house could easily fit 4-5 cars.

in the letter they also asked if we could make sure we don’t park outside their house since she teaches music lessons from home and they need the space for her clients. I thought that was odd as we don’t park outside her house and her clients can park anywhere- she could have an orchestra practicing in there and there would be no parking issue.

We have since found out that they have been emailing my husbands work place complaining about us for a very long time. Complaining that we park on the road and not on the driveway and this included my husbands work vehicles but also our own personal vehicles and also told his employer we are harassing them with footballs.

we do sometimes park on the road as well as the driveway outside our house. This is for various reasons but we’re not obstructing anyone, we’re not in front of their house and they’re taxed and legally parked. It’s mainly because we’re really busy, in and out leaving at different times. Working shift patterns etc and sometimes it happens. We have very very occasionally parked in the turning circle when we’ve had visitors etc but everyone on the road does this. This circle has 5 detached houses around it, it’s huge.

we’ve recently done some work down the side of our house and offered to replace her fence panels for no charge, which she accepted. She has knocked on our door to borrow our lawn mower recently.our house is clean, tidy. We are not loud, we both work hard and have young children. They have said all the neighbours have a problem with us and I’m just really upset and feel that emailing his employer, having never ever voiced a concern to us is so out of line.

we need to speak to them about it all but we’re both feeling extremely anxious about it. They’ve sent photos of our house and cars to his employer and I had no idea he was taking photos. I don’t know what advice I’m looking for really I’m just really upset. Should we approach other neighbours? Write a letter? I don’t like conflict.

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PaterPower · 08/10/2024 11:52

I would second the idea of getting a ring doorbell cam or standalone camera covering the front of your house, and possibly get one covering the back too.

The (multiple, presumably) letters to his workplace are bordering on harassment. Whether you want to involve the council / local community PCSO is up to you, but I’d only go that route if she escalates.

Otherwise ignore her; no more favours and stay icily polite if you bump into her.

TheWayTheLightFalls · 08/10/2024 11:52

I’d have DH reply to his work and say that there’s an ongoing one-way issue from the neighbour who seems a bit overinvested in your family and while he’s happy to take guidance from work re the vehicles there is context they should be aware of.

And then just live your lives. I would stop lending anything or otherwise having anything to do with them.

I have a crackers neighbour. I smile and wave.

Lindtballsornoballs · 08/10/2024 11:49

Contacting your husbands employer made this a police matter, they should be your first port of call.

BlueMum16 · 08/10/2024 11:45

Personally I would speak to them.

Explain your disappointment that they've approached an employer when you are legally parked and not yourself.

Explain you have done nothing wrong. Everyone has a right to park on a public highway.

Explain if it continues you will seek legal advice for harassment.

Mittens67 · 08/10/2024 11:44

I was told by the police that for communication to qualify as harassment you need to have told the person that you do not want any further letters etc from them.
The most the police would be doing in your situation would be an offer to refer to a free community mediation service.
I would suggest one polite letter to your neighbour stating your position and replying to her complaints.
Then if this does not resolve matters either ignore if you can or try mediation.

ScholesPanda · 08/10/2024 11:39

Your update makes it sound like it's mostly the son complaining to your DH work. If he lives on and off with his DM in his 30s and is involving himself in the kind of petty issues that only appeal to those with too much time on their hands, I'd guess he is inadequate in some way.

Doubt you can reason with him, having met men like this, their world view is so skewed that you can't accommodate their views. It wouldn't at all surprise me if the underlying issue he has is something about having a works van in the street at all, even if parked on your drive.

Edited for typos

Blusterydaytodaypoohbear · 08/10/2024 11:37

I tried to speak to batshit neighbour... She accused me of not even living in the street despite us being there 8 years! Then suggested I trek 4 x dc across the green and park on the main road.... As if...
She took pics of us from UNDER A TABLE on her phone when I parked up.. . I told her if she continued to photograph my dc I was ringing the police...

Silvers11 · 08/10/2024 11:30

@Amumof287 I wonder if it is the son who complains and his Mother is ok with things. That would explain why she is friendly enough? How did you find out this had all been going on?

PuddlesPityParty · 08/10/2024 11:23

Moveoverdarlin · 08/10/2024 11:11

I would go round there today and say ‘Hi Elaine, have you got time for a chat? Can I come in? And I would have a really frank chat. I would say ‘Chris is getting in trouble at work because you keep emailing his bosses about us? Are we really such awful neighbours? What’s your main issue and we’ll fix it today. I don’t want to upset you. Is it the van? His bosses have no concern as to where he parks his van, the emails are just irritating them. The road is huge, we always park considerately. I apologise again for Jack’s football, but we’ve sorted that. I don’t want to fall out Elaine, you are a great neighbour, but if you have a problem, SPEAK to me, stop the silly emails and letters.

Be assertive but polite. She sounds like a pain the ass, busybody, if you go round and chat one on one she’ll probably shit herself.

Sorry but no. This clearly isn’t going to work on an unreasonable person.

MadamMuck · 08/10/2024 11:15

Clearly nuts or MH issues as one more compassionate poster suggested. Zero contact. You can't reason with people who are nuts.

Thelnebriati · 08/10/2024 11:13

Whatever you do don't contact them, but do talk to the police as soon as you can.

Moveoverdarlin · 08/10/2024 11:11

I would go round there today and say ‘Hi Elaine, have you got time for a chat? Can I come in? And I would have a really frank chat. I would say ‘Chris is getting in trouble at work because you keep emailing his bosses about us? Are we really such awful neighbours? What’s your main issue and we’ll fix it today. I don’t want to upset you. Is it the van? His bosses have no concern as to where he parks his van, the emails are just irritating them. The road is huge, we always park considerately. I apologise again for Jack’s football, but we’ve sorted that. I don’t want to fall out Elaine, you are a great neighbour, but if you have a problem, SPEAK to me, stop the silly emails and letters.

Be assertive but polite. She sounds like a pain the ass, busybody, if you go round and chat one on one she’ll probably shit herself.

PuddlesPityParty · 08/10/2024 11:08

newchapternewday · 08/10/2024 11:03

This is worth a conversation with the police for advice as this would constitute harassment. However please note that when you come to sell your house you would have to declare this issue.

Agreed.

LaurieFairyCake · 08/10/2024 11:05

That last post indicates they're batshit

They're saying you should get the train instead of having a car ?

Yet they have a car..... Hmm

Never speak to them again. I doubt very much the other neighbours think this.

Get a solicitor to send them a letter saying stop harassing us.

And just ignore them forever.

newchapternewday · 08/10/2024 11:03

This is worth a conversation with the police for advice as this would constitute harassment. However please note that when you come to sell your house you would have to declare this issue.

Justice4Friend · 08/10/2024 11:02

Maybe it's the son complaining and the mother isn't aware?

Amumof287 · 08/10/2024 11:01

Just to point out his vehicles change sometimes. Sometimes they’re just cars- estates usually. Sometimes vans. Only one at a time. There was a short time where he had 2 but it was just a crossover where he was waiting for one to be collected. One of the complaints to the company was he doesn’t understand why he needs a works vehicle when we live within walking distance to a train station…

I feel like they’ve been watching my life and Iv been oblivious to it. Thanks for all of the advice so far it’s actually really helped

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MothralovesGojira · 08/10/2024 11:01

@Amumof287
If it was just the usual moans & grumblings of an elderly neighbour then I would say the best way forward is to just ignore it as best you can but this is different.
This person has taken photos and repeatedly contacted your husband's employer - this is harassment. This type can not be reasoned with in person or by letter from yourself so really your only option is to get a solicitor to write a cease & desist letter to her.
What does your husband's employer think about these unsolicited communications? It would be wise to obtain copies and take them to the solicitor if you choose to go and consult one. Most employers think things like this are a joke but these are, presumably, very determined efforts to get your husband into trouble and they can cause damage to a persons working reputation.

I would also think that you're not the only neighbour she's harassed and that most are very aware of her issues - they just want to keep off of her radar and say nothing to draw her attention.

Justice4Friend · 08/10/2024 10:57

Don't replace her fence if not already done so.

Justice4Friend · 08/10/2024 10:56

Your husband's work van allowed to be parked on a residential street?

Get your own back, ignore her, don't lend her anything, complain to the council about her piano noise, let HMRC know maybe she's not declaring her income.

Seashellssanctuary · 08/10/2024 10:53

It sounds like she could well have MH issues. People who write letters of complaint do not then pop round to borrow something or have garden chats and exchange Christmas cards.

FadedRed · 08/10/2024 10:53

Some councils do have local regulations about parking commercial vehicles in residential areas, especially overnight, so it would be worth checking your council’s take on this. The likelihood is that there are no reasons why you should not park there, as long as it is safe etc. it may help your neighbours to accept that you can park there, if they are mistakenly thinking that you are in the wrong.

ABirdsEyeView · 08/10/2024 10:51

I also think it's worth talking to the local police about potential harassment. Keep all communications she's sent to your husband's work. A strongly worded solicitor's letter might be needed.
I would avoid parking work vehicles outside of her house and not park in the turning circle ever (even if others do it, it's legitimately annoying) because that drags your DH's employer into things, but if it's legal to park in the road, then I'd be parked outside her house every day, with a security camera on my car!
I'm a stroppy cow and I'd be inclined to buy a shed of a car, tax and insure it and then leave it parked permanently outside her house and deny it was mine.

Octonaut4Life · 08/10/2024 10:46

Also probably get a doorbell camera, always a good idea if you have a mad neighbor!

Octonaut4Life · 08/10/2024 10:46

They're obviously highly conflict avoidant and passive aggressive since they're doing all of this via letters and not speaking to you face to face. I would suggest going over there very calmly and having a conversation with them explaining that they need to raise issues with you in person like grown ups and in future you will not be responding to any mystery letters dropped through your letter box etc. If they're as conflict avoidant as they sound the idea of having to actually talk to you about this stuff is probably their worst nightmare so the best way to put them off may be insisting on speaking to them directly about things, every time.

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