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To think Christmas at PILs is unsustainable?

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Jimot · 08/10/2024 09:50

There is a backstory here in that PILs moved to a two up two down cottage/terrace in a semi rural area in the COVID no stamp duty era. They previously lived in a bigger house much closer to us and liked to have people over. They are now an hour away. We tried to gently broach how their lifestyle was going to work with the house when they were planning the move but they didn't want to hear it. Since then we had DS and PILs have been resentful that we don't have them do regular childcare, and don't accept really that the logistics wouldn't work, I think they just believe I'm favouring my parents and being awkward. We see them roughly once a fortnight on average although they would say we don't bother seeing them enough.

The house is small. So is our house, so it's not about being snobby over it, but they seem to still want to host like they used to.
Recently MIL complained that she would offer to host an extended family get together but no one ever wants to drive out to see them, and DH said in the car in the way back how he wondered where they were planning on putting everyone if they did host. PIL like to have DH and I and DS plus SIL and her DH over at the same time. There aren't enough seats in the living room for the adults so someone needs to sit on the floor. DS already tends to end up banging his head on furniture when playing as there is very limited floor space. If we eat at the table in the kitchen folding chairs are needed and we all need to shuffle around with our backs against the wall. We tend to spend a weekend with them including an overnight to do Christmas together. This is already changing as when a baby DS would sleep in a double with us to stay over but now he just won't sleep in bed with us and there is no room to put a camp bed down.
Now SIL is expecting next year and I've found out I am too!
We were talking about Christmas and I said next year maybe we had better book a pub with a soft play to be able to accommodate us all, or maybe even go away somewhere after Xmas. MIL was absolutely spitting feathers, absolutely indignant that we would be having family Christmas at their house and began speaking about the extra furniture they're going to purchase. I didn't really say much else although I was thinking that this was really no solution. Maybe we will be able to bring folding highchairs next year and keep babies on laps but even so, soon enough there just literally won't be room to fit in 6 adults and 3 children. They already don't have a Christmas tree as there is no room for one.

So was I unreasonable in my assertion about pub or going away? I do feel a little guilty as I do realise they want all their family together but to me it doesn't matter what the location is. I already find it a bit uncomfortable at their house but I'm dreading next year as feel like we are going to be literally squished in thigh to thigh and I won't be able to relax trying to manage the kids not being trodden on.

I'm happy to be hit with it though if I'm just totally selfish! AIBU?

OP posts:
RickiRaccoon · 08/10/2024 10:17

We have Christmas Day at home since having kids.

The reality doesn't work how grandparents would like it to. My parents have a bigger house but still not big enough for all of us and it's 10 hours from me and sister and 3 hours from my brothers. I know my mother would like a big Xmas but it's not practical when you have little ones and have to travel so far (and hide presents then bring them back). I do hope we'll manage one Xmas together for her in a few years but it'll likely only be a one-off and not until the little ones are older and sleeping and travelling better.

Gcn · 08/10/2024 10:17

Mil lives in a tiny 2 bed house with one open plan room downstairs. She still hosts boxing day for over 20 people. It is not a pleasant experience.

toomuchfaff · 08/10/2024 10:13

Nope.

Make it abundantly clear now that Christmas is now about YOUR family, it will be spent at your own house, for your own children. You're starting your own traditions, with a growing family, it has to start somewhere and now is the perfect time. PIL'S just won't work for you so you're going to decline the invite this year, thank but no thanks.

Pocketfullofdogtreats · 08/10/2024 10:13

I think you're doing well to see them once a fortnight, personally, now that they live that far away. It will get harder too once your DS has his own clubs and social life.
Christmas for us has for many years been here at home. We catch up with family in the days following. MIL didn't like it at first but now she's relieved she doesn't have all the pressure. We have been up there a few times when the dch were small and stayed in a B&B. Who wants that at Christmas? Better to make it afterwards.

SBHon · 08/10/2024 10:09

Squeezing all in for Christmas is part of the fun I think.

HotSource · 08/10/2024 10:09

Your DH and SIL need to team up and be honest and direct with them: “we know we all love to be together but the fact is that none of us now have a house big enough to accommodate all of us at the same time, so our proposal is that we hire a lovely big holiday house between us and have a fabulous Christmas “

Any push back “ I know that’s the dream but the truth is that if we are all sleeping on blow up beds in the lounge no one will sleep and the kids will be grumpy. If we all want to be together with somewhere for us all to sleep and eat we need a holiday house “.

”OK, then maybe you two come to ours for the day at Christmas?”

SwingTheMonkey · 08/10/2024 10:02

When we had our children, Christmas was at home. People were more than welcome to come to us but we weren’t travelling anywhere. I don’t understand why they think you must go there for Xmas? Don’t you see your family?

Teeshs · 08/10/2024 09:58

Yanbu.
Do not commit to staying over any more.
They don't have space, one of the few down sides of trading down.
Let her spit feathers.
They moved.
They wanted to change things.
These are some of the unintended consequences which they will have to suck up.

Lunch out mid way is a good idea but with young children would not be something i would do.

Once we had children I refused to go anywhere.
We had travelled for a decade but once children arrived I was having Christmas in my home, no futher discussion.
I certainly wouldn't do it with a toddler and baby.

gettingolderbutcooler · 08/10/2024 09:55

Even before I had the kids. Christmas Day was mine. No visits, no nothing. Complete self indulgence. Saw people Boxing Day etc.
Since having the kids we do the same- relaxed happy indulgence, just as a family, on Christmas Day. Boxing Day etc we visit or have people over.
It's important to protect what works for you and makes you happy.

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