To think people's manners in public are deteriorating

I stepped aside in a shop yesterday to let two older ladies come into the aisle. They took their time and I didn’t even get a smile or a thank you. Rude and entitled.

I always expect please and thank you, I expect doors to be held, by that I mean if you're going through a door just to leave it open for the next person. I don't mean men holding doors for women although both my DS and DH would do that.

Don't get me started on table manners.

i have often tapped someone on the shoulder on the train and said "sorry, you've forgotten to put your headphones in"

Once when there was a loud argument when the other party was on speakerphone i just shouted that a whole train could hear it and they might want to hang up (they did)

Porn? i would loudly point that out to everyone else in the carriage.

I have grey hair now and i rule the train. It really works. (but you have to not be embarassed at people looking at you)

Sandybeaches5 · Today 08:29
I think it's started to become ingrained in some younger people that they don't need to have respect or manners any more.

I find my peers (60) and older far, far ruder than youngsters.

Was at an arena musical.

The staff were great at stopping people filming on their phones but one smartarse kept her phone on her knee. And as the place was in darkness it was really intrusive

Then during a famous, really sad song you could have heard a pin drop (other than stifled sobs) and the twat behind me kept rustling in her bag of sweets.

TKMaxx, just after morning opening. Hurrah, it's empty, I'm first customer in. Grabbed what I wanted and headed for till, one member of staff on duty. On her phone. Arguing loudly about money with whoever she was speaking to. She could see me so I didn't interrupt. She kept on. After a few minutes, she snarled at me "Do you mind? This is a private conversation!" I think she'd forgotten where she was.

Standards of behaviour, in public and in general, have declined spectacularly in recent years, maybe due in large part to lazy (non-existent) parenting, internet/SM use, lack of accountability, decline in actual social interaction, and many other reasons.

I’ve stopped going to live comedy/theatre because of the constant talking. I can’t hear anything even through a microphone if there is background noise so just a waste of money.

I agree, technology and the example of Boris Johnson have contributed.

As for the porn one, you should have intervened or spoken with the DLR train captain.

I was always led to believe that you waited for passengers to get off a train before you got on. I'm fed up with being mown down in the crush of bad mannered people barging on while people are trying to get off.
It's not even the London Underground - it's trains in a rural area of Scotland where there are only 2 carriages for a long journey.

I always say something to people that play music/phone calls on loud speaker. I’m very polite and say something like ‘we can all hear that’ or ‘have you got headphones you can use?’. Said with a big smile, it always disarms people and they comply.

We were in a pub having lunch recently and a couple came in with a toddler and sat next to us. They then set up the toddler with an iPad on loud speaker. ‘Can you turn the volume off please?’ I said with my rictus grin. They did so. Fucking idiots though.

Someone watching porn out loud on the DLR

WTF?!

I'm on the other side of this, and I return the way I'm treated (within reason). Manners work both ways, or they should!

I once had a lady bark her name at me, then when I asked politely, what department & service she wanted she rolled her eyes and snapped which one followed by "Obviously!" I directed her and automatically said thank you as she headed off following the very clear signage and she had a go at me for being sarcastic because apparently I was expecting her to grovel for the information and by me saying thank you I was trying to make a point.

I mean I notice when people use manners now towards me when I'm at work because it's becoming increasingly uncommon, but having a go at me because I have used mine, all be it automatically is very odd behaviour!

This exact same thing happened to me, and when I pointed it out the woman said "I'm parked legally, there's nothing you can do!" I pointed out she was lucky I hadn't keyed her car with a few choice words and that other people would have. That got me a solid glare but it got the point across.

I was recently in an M & S food hall, heading toward the busy self checkout area, a woman and her teen daughter coming the other way, We reached the entrance to the self checkout at the same time, I stood back to let them go first and they just steamed past me without a word of thanks or acknowledgement. So rude.

Driving standards are appalling now I agree.
I was taught to check if it was safe (mirror) to go before then indicating (signal), then going when it was clear (manoeuvre).
These days people just indicate (if you're lucky) and go. Doesn't matter if there's not a gap or you're not letting them in. They just pull straight in. So you have a split second to react. And if you DON'T let them in they do nuts and start shouting and gesturing at you like you're in the wrong even though they've sped past a queue on traffic and now want to pull straight in on a queuing slip road. And if they don't get in, they just block the other lane or cross the crosshatch bit and sit there.

What ive found is people can’t apologise when they are in the wrong. For instance a lady parked so badly next to me I couldn’t open my door. I couldn’t climb over from the passenger side either. It was a massive Tesco car park with loads of spaces. I had to wait 20 mins for her to appear to move her car.

All she said was ‘I managed to get out ok’. I pointed out then when my car was unlocked the wing mirror was sticking out meaning there was no room to open door wide enough for me to get in. She just shrugged.. 🤷‍♀️

If that had me I would have apologised profusely.

On a plane a few weeks ago, the family in front of me had tabs for the kids where they were all playing games/videos without headphones. The noise was ridiculous! One kid was a teen, the other probably 7. Who teaches their kids that listening to their kit is more important than everyone else's peace?

Inconsiderate a**holes - that's who. But not to worry, those kids will grow soon, and teach their kids the same.

Driving standards have deteriorated so much now that you now have to drive like everyone is out to get you, wrong lanes on roundabouts, wrong (and dangerous) indication, wrong giving way, the worst thing though, is the filthy looks and chuntering you get when you have let that person through or let them out in front of you from a side road, it’s utterly bizzare, like you’ve annoyed them instead of actually helping them by being considerate.
Don’t get me started on supermarket behaviour !

‘and the woman next to me loudly inhaling a family size pack of Doritos’

😂😂😂🤢

Oh for goodness sake. Basic manners should be expected from everyone. Not just high earners.

Please and thank you isn’t really high standards 🤷‍♀️

You stop to let someone go past and do they say thank you? Do they hell. Just march past without even looking at you.

And that made you feel good did it? Trying to humiliate a minimum wage worker in public for not conforming to your standards?

Omg! And when they ring up your items and don't say a word. So you have to ask how much to pay?