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AIBU to be fucked off at road marathons?

366 replies

JesusOnAYamaha · 07/10/2024 22:22

Once a year in London is one thing but they're bloody everywhere now and it's not like the organisers put diversions in so you can get to where you're going. We had one in our town a couple of months ago and I couldn't leave my (no through) street because they blocked it off so people could spend a day running past it. I mean I couldn't even cross the road at the end of my street, on foot. Now I've just found out that I can't get to where I need to be for a family event later this month because another load of joggers are closing down a bunch of roads into/in this other place.

AIBU to think they could just run round a park? Or a field? Or a racecourse? Or a hill? Or somewhere where they're not in the way of residents and other people who just want to go about their business.

I know I probably am BU. It's probably nice that people get to run around if they like running. They probably enjoy spending a day running past my street and I should be happy for them. But, I am a bit fucked off with it all.

OP posts:
sharpclawedkitten · 10/10/2024 20:37

Icanttakethisanymore · 10/10/2024 20:30

I will give you £100 if you can prove to me you are not able to leave your front door when a running race takes place

Some MNers are precious!

sharpclawedkitten · 10/10/2024 20:37

NotAnotherCodeBlueAt3Am · 10/10/2024 18:56

Which bit of closures from 3am to 4:30-5pm did you not understand? That’s more than 90 minutes.

Before you have a go at me for not reading your post, I would suggest that you read mine. I was referring to my local 10k, which takes about 90 minutes.

Icanttakethisanymore · 10/10/2024 20:30

Hoplolly · 08/10/2024 09:02

It's all year round, 5k, 10k, half marathon, full marathon, bike races... we seem to be on a main route. We're expected to suck it up but sorry, my weekends are precious! Sue me for wanting to be able to leave my house!

I will give you £100 if you can prove to me you are not able to leave your front door when a running race takes place

Icanttakethisanymore · 10/10/2024 20:27

NasiDagang · 08/10/2024 07:06

You can be fit and still have high cholesterol, get heart attacks. It doesn't really save NHS loads of money.

Whilst I am sure it's possible to be fit with high cholesterol and have a heart attack. Being fit greatly reduces your chances of having any of those things so being fit (and a healthy weight, which is made more likely if a person exercises) really WOULD save thr NHS loads of money.

Icanttakethisanymore · 10/10/2024 20:21

Sesma · 07/10/2024 22:36

You can be fit without doing road marathons, DH does loads of marathons and manages to avoid these.

People follow the routes the organisers define - it's really nothing to do with the participants which roads get used.

Icanttakethisanymore · 10/10/2024 20:18

HiCandles · 07/10/2024 22:24

Yanbu but I bet most will disagree. My town has a half marathon and it annoys me too. I know a lady who is a home carer and she has to park away and walk 10 mins to a couple of her clients which is time she just doesn't have to spare.

Most events happen once a year... does yours happen more frequently than that?

JesusOnAYamaha · 10/10/2024 20:14

That's nice dear

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Feelinadequate23 · 10/10/2024 19:09

OP you must be unlucky in where you live. I’ve lived in 6 places (including London) in the last 10 years and never once been affected by a road closure for a sports event!

NotAnotherCodeBlueAt3Am · 10/10/2024 18:56

sharpclawedkitten · 10/10/2024 12:41

See also dog owners. I am inconvenienced by dogs pretty much every day, whether it's having to dodge poo, dodge people hogging paths with their dogs or having to rethink running and walking routes to avoid off-lead dogs.

So I am not going to feel too guilty about inconveniencing people for 90 minutes a year for a local 10k road race. We all have to put up with other people getting in our way - either all the time or some of the time.

Which bit of closures from 3am to 4:30-5pm did you not understand? That’s more than 90 minutes.

NotAnotherCodeBlueAt3Am · 10/10/2024 18:41

sharpclawedkitten · 10/10/2024 12:38

Nobody is going to stop an ambulance getting through and if you know a carer needs access you make sure the council and the organisers are aware in advance.

Haha the council know carers need access. The carers have to park miles away and walk. Anyways the ambulance can get there but it’s likely to be caught up in a massive pile of solid traffic in the surrounding areas caused by the closed main artery. The surrounding roads don’t become wider when the main artery is closed.

Allfur · 10/10/2024 14:07

Unless you live on an isolated island, i think you have to accept that being part of a wider community, you will sometimes be inconvenienced.

BuzzieLittleBee · 10/10/2024 14:01

@Lumberingfool - your post is very refreshing. If everyone who was inconvenienced put their point across in a measured, realistic and factual way like you have, there would be less of a backlash from the runners! Exaggeration and hyperbole don't do anything for the cause.

Ginmonkeyagain · 10/10/2024 12:47

TBF some people seem to be talking about Manchester marathon, which is hands down the worst organised marathon I have ever been to.

sharpclawedkitten · 10/10/2024 12:44

But why anyone ever thought, oh, lets just close a bunch of streets in a city so some people who like to run can do it there in a giant group, I don't really understand. If my neighbourhood wants to have a street party (which we do yearly), we have to get a permit and that means getting a signature from every house on the street. Somehow the runs don't have to, and the problems they create go well bend the street that are actually closed

Not true. The organisers DO need to get permission and it's very expensive for them.

sharpclawedkitten · 10/10/2024 12:41

ShamelessCatLady · 09/10/2024 09:31

Agree. The nerve of motorists complaining about this relatively minor occasional inconvenience. Completely oblivious to their own phenomenal daily selfishness.

Of course this is mumsnet where anyone who doesn’t drive is suspect so there is plenty of support for the OP.

See also dog owners. I am inconvenienced by dogs pretty much every day, whether it's having to dodge poo, dodge people hogging paths with their dogs or having to rethink running and walking routes to avoid off-lead dogs.

So I am not going to feel too guilty about inconveniencing people for 90 minutes a year for a local 10k road race. We all have to put up with other people getting in our way - either all the time or some of the time.

sharpclawedkitten · 10/10/2024 12:40

Thing is it doesn’t matter if it’s once or twice a year. People shouldn’t be blocked in their streets for any reason bar emergencies

What about...street parties. If people object to those they are anti-social and unneighbourly and don't contribute to their community. Yet they block off streets.

sharpclawedkitten · 10/10/2024 12:38

Topseyt123 · 09/10/2024 12:39

Almost every year an Iron Man event closes the road my very elderly mother lives on. She is 89, not very mobile, can no longer drive so has no car etc. She has several serious medical issues now too.

It does worry me a bit whether they have taken full account of very vulnerable people who may be living on these routes. If questioned, the organisers' stock response is " go and park the car round the corner and just walk to it if you need to the next day", which is completely useless to someone like my mother who can't walk more than a few shuffling steps and needs carers to come to her house several times a day. Apparently the carers too should park well away too and walk, no matter how much stuff they might need and how many vulnerable patients they need to visit on their rounds. The care company has also complained about it and got precisely nowhere.

I do hope that they would allow emergency services up the roads, but have certainly heard of cases where they too were impeded.

I find that when you query any such questions with the event organisers you are far too often met with utter incomprehension.

I think there should at the very least be a means of knowing which addresses are occupied by vulnerable people, although emergencies can occur anywhere at any time.

Edited

Nobody is going to stop an ambulance getting through and if you know a carer needs access you make sure the council and the organisers are aware in advance.

Lumberingfool · 10/10/2024 07:40

Alexandra2001 · 10/10/2024 06:55

But not fully closed, dual carriage as they mention northbound and southbound closures... at differing points .... and access roads to fro the 3am closures.

These are also not residential roads either.

Again a huge event that happens once a year and raises £21m for charity.

We've just had Goose Fair in a town near near me, disgraceful that this event, 100s of years old, closes so many local roads, for the best part of 24hours.... and then there is the noise....

SHUT IT DOWN!!!!

You don't actually live here so what would you know?
There are one or two stretches closed in just one direction, yes. The main effing route through Stretford and Gorse Hill - Chester Road - is fully closed from 3 am to 4:30 pm and yes, there are a heck of a lot of housing estates that need to use that road to get to shops etc.

The road outside mine is residential and closed 12 straight hours. It happens twice a year, April and October. One full, one half marathon. And no it's not the end of the world, but it is inconvenient. I work full time and have 2 disabled kids and Sundays is usually shopping day for the next week's food. Can't even get it delivered instead. We won't die, but I am allowed a little grumble.

Will you kindly stop making out that you know better on this than someone who lives right here?

Noseylittlemoo · 10/10/2024 07:15

As for the person upthread who condoned putting out tacks on the road for the cycle race. I can't believe that you think its fine to sabotage someones race and damage their bike costing them ££ . Would you think it ok to slash someones car tyres if they drove or parked in an inconvenient manner? Plus you're directing your anger in the wrong place - the cyclists didnt design the course /organise the road closures.
Additionally if an emergency vehicle /person in an emergency had to access the course youre putting them at risk too.

Noseylittlemoo · 10/10/2024 07:01

Generally races will be a loop as runners need to get back to where they started . There are a few exceptions such as London Marathon where the runners belongings are transported from the various starting points to the finish. But most marathons would not have the budget or logistics to facilitate this system. Most of the Peterborough Road closures are between 2.5 - 5.5 h for this annual event.
As PPs have mentioned a lot of planning , risk assesment , contingency planning will go into these races. Councils and organisers will take on board complaints but they will be looking at the event and it's affect on the area as a whole. They will look at the logistics, support, revenue generated not just from the race but things like local businesses, parking etc as well as feedback from residents and participants. And I think they would always be working to get positive outcomes for all aspects. But unfortunately for a large scale race it would be impossibel to stage without some road closures.

Alexandra2001 · 10/10/2024 06:55

Lumberingfool · 09/10/2024 20:44

Here you go. The main artery route through Old Trafford is closed 3am to 4:30pm. Lots of roads closed 8-8 or similar 12 hour stretches. Some closed for even longer.

As map isn't showing up great here is the link
www.manchestermarathon.co.uk/road-closure-info/

Edited

But not fully closed, dual carriage as they mention northbound and southbound closures... at differing points .... and access roads to fro the 3am closures.

These are also not residential roads either.

Again a huge event that happens once a year and raises £21m for charity.

We've just had Goose Fair in a town near near me, disgraceful that this event, 100s of years old, closes so many local roads, for the best part of 24hours.... and then there is the noise....

SHUT IT DOWN!!!!

Wellingtonspie · 09/10/2024 21:06

Someone mentioned Peterborough this weekend? So I went and looked. A nice big old circle there of people blocked In.

Lumberingfool · 09/10/2024 20:44

Alexandra2001 · 09/10/2024 20:13

London Marathon lists 2 roads closed at 4am, all others from 7am.

LM is once a year as is the Great North Run, these are both exceptional world famous events.

So where are all these 100s of other 1/2 marathons and bike rides that shut down our town s and cities???

...and no link to this 3am to 5pm closure....

Edited

Here you go. The main artery route through Old Trafford is closed 3am to 4:30pm. Lots of roads closed 8-8 or similar 12 hour stretches. Some closed for even longer.

As map isn't showing up great here is the link
www.manchestermarathon.co.uk/road-closure-info/

AIBU to be fucked off at road marathons?
Wellingtonspie · 09/10/2024 20:28

widelegenes · 09/10/2024 20:17

What do you want people to say?
Yes, you're right - let's start a change.org petition and get all road races stopped.

Just for councils to not loop them and cut a whole area off would be the proper thing wouldn’t it.

widelegenes · 09/10/2024 20:17

Wellingtonspie · 09/10/2024 20:16

Thing is it doesn’t matter if it’s once or twice a year. People shouldn’t be blocked in their streets for any reason bar emergencies.

They might claim there is pedestrian crossing but if you are disabled you might not be able to walk that far to the designated one, they might have over zealous marshals claiming not possible.

and I do how to wonder how many marshals again would trust an emergency being driven in their family car rather than an ambulance to actually stop the race for a few minutes to let people out.

Well publicised also depends again. I don’t follow running pages, lots of people are not on Facebook, our local paper is a shambles so barely anyone buys it. Only those on the actual shut roads get letters and the general road closure sign doesn’t tend to include a little note saying also x y z roads are closed too, so you can normally assume this road is closed tomorrow ok I’ll go down Y road instead. So if you are unlucky enough to live within the circle but not the road that’s actually closed you are still locked in and could very easily be with no notice.

What do you want people to say?
Yes, you're right - let's start a change.org petition and get all road races stopped.