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Self catering holiday with a veggie for a week

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Lorey · 07/10/2024 14:35

Later in the year I have an air BnB booked in the lakes. DB will be bringing his new gf who is a veggie. We will be taking it in turns to make dinner. Whenever db and his gf come to stay with us for the weekend we make veggie food - not hard for a weekend with curries, pastas etc.

i can see how on a couple of nights we could cater for both ie we have burgers and the gf will have a halloumi burger. Or we’ll cook chicken separately and add to creamy pesto pasta for meat eaters in a separate pan

I’m just curious how your family would go about it. I reckon our meals will be mostly veggie including brekkie. Bit annoying. But thinking about it if I were the veggie I would say you guys crack on with non veggie meals and where I can’t easily be catered for I will sort myself out. As opposed to impacting everyone else for an entire week

what do you guys do?

OP posts:
BigDahliaFan · 07/10/2024 17:38

I know what you mean. We eat a lot of veggie but if you fancy a fish pie, that's what you fancy...

SilenceInside · 07/10/2024 17:37

@Commonsense22 you would rather make yourself ill than tell people that you have a dietary requirement? Wow. Surely you'd just say that you can't eat whatever it is as it would make you ill, and then who would be so awful as to hold it against you?? So strange.

soupfiend · 07/10/2024 17:37

HappyDane · 07/10/2024 17:11

What? Of course it can still be centred around a shared enjoyment of food.

Exactly, does no one do tapas/mezze style meals where everyone has a bit of this and a bit of that and dips in here and there?

sweetpickle2 · 07/10/2024 17:34

Icanttakethisanymore · 07/10/2024 16:58

This thread is slightly bewildering - there are various solutions to your problem and you don't seem to like any of them.

Everyone eats veggie - No, you want to eat meat
You make your desired meaty meal and get GF a shop bought alternative - No, feels mean
You make your desired meaty meal and cook and a comparable veggie meal for the GF - No, you don't want the extra faff.

If you want to eat meat and don't want to make something for her then you'll have to give her a bought alternative, surely?

Edited

Agree with this, can’t see what will satisfy the OP apart from the gf suddenly eating meat.

phoenixrosehere · 07/10/2024 17:33

YABVU

You are right that you are making a bigger deal over this than is necessary.

If you can make a beef wellington, you can make a mushroom wellington or the gf can make one beside you if she likes mushroom. The only difference is mushrooms instead of meat. SIL is a vegetarian. She made a mushroom wellington for Christmas and it tasted way better than any meat that was on the table and more flavourful.

A margherita pizza or a veggie pizza are not hard to make. Pizza base, tomato sauce, cheese, add veggies, oven, done.

It really isn’t hard. Many meals are vegetarian until you add meat to them.

Skippydoodle · 07/10/2024 17:32

Aussieland · 07/10/2024 15:00

Surely you don’t eat meat every day anyway?

What a strange comment. Plenty of people out there eat meat every day. Get ready to pass out - some of us eat it more than once a day - I kid you not!

Commonsense22 · 07/10/2024 17:32

SilenceInside · 07/10/2024 17:27

@Commonsense22 I would cater for you. I do for all my friends that have medical dietary needs. Why wouldn't I? Why wouldn't anyone? It's just unfriendly and unkind to cook food that you know your friends can't eat and worse, expect them to bring their own food. Unlike any of the other guests.

Thank you - If the friend offers I appreciate it but I would never ask unless I'mthe only guest. Ultimately, I know it's a pain. If it's an elderly relative cooking who doesn't get it I will eat the food and be ill. I just believe it's polite. Obviously it's not a nut allergy or something life threatening.

And at weddings etc I just eat what I can.

But yes, I'm grateful nobody in either of our families has moral qualms about food as we really enjoy cooking together.

exprecis · 07/10/2024 17:29

rookiemere · 07/10/2024 17:28

You could make a mushroom and brie wellington. Just buy some big flat mushrooms and brie. Takes 5 minutes and means everyone gets a home cooked meal.

But it would be a faff for the OP.

Unlike 90 mins preparing a beef Wellington which is a joy

Onlyonekenobe · 07/10/2024 17:29

AlisonDonut · 07/10/2024 17:25

No you did - you said 'Food has to be just something people need to consume during the day to do other stuff'

Which is utter bollocks. Just because you can't cook good food, doesn't mean the rest of us can't.

No, you have chosen to misunderstand my perfectly well phrased reply: for me, in my extended family, which I described in my post that started with "I've learned..." that this is about my experience. The OP is talking about hers. Every poster is talking about theirs. I'm not proscribing what everyone else must feel or think about their own experiences. How could I? (Although that doesn't seem to stop you, can't think why you feel qualified to comment on my cooking abilities for heaven's sake. People on the internet can be very weird sometimes...)

rookiemere · 07/10/2024 17:28

You could make a mushroom and brie wellington. Just buy some big flat mushrooms and brie. Takes 5 minutes and means everyone gets a home cooked meal.

SilenceInside · 07/10/2024 17:27

@Commonsense22 I would cater for you. I do for all my friends that have medical dietary needs. Why wouldn't I? Why wouldn't anyone? It's just unfriendly and unkind to cook food that you know your friends can't eat and worse, expect them to bring their own food. Unlike any of the other guests.

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 07/10/2024 17:26

Commonsense22 · 07/10/2024 17:10

I think this hits the nail on the head.
The OP has enjoyed family holidays where they all share a love of food, and the food they enjoy contains meat and/or fish. Good times were had preparing said food and sharing a dish around the table.

Suddenly, she has to prep food which she does not particularly enjoy cooking or eating. The joy of sharing a single meal is lost and there's a lot of faff added. Not to mention that if the GF is the judgemental kind of certain posters on this thread, she won't be allowed to enjoy her own food either

Again: there is now a lot of evidence to say that genetics play a bug part in being able to follow a vegetarian diet.

That said the GF has not yet been difficult. It's just that the holidays will no longer be able to center around a shared enjoyment of food. And that can be, for some, quite a disappointment.

Edited

Could you please back up your claim that genetics take a part in being "able" to be vegetarian, whatever that means?

Onlyonekenobe · 07/10/2024 17:25

SilenceInside · 07/10/2024 17:19

@Commonsense22 I couldn't possibly count the number of times ive had Christmas, new year, birthdays with my DPs family and siblings who are not vegetarian, whilst everyone enjoys sharing food. Why would you think that's not possible? Just because I'm not eating one or two elements and having a small alternative?

Actually, thinking about it further, it IS possible to enjoy a shared experience around food with vegetarians. I've done it with two friends (one a vegetarian, one a pescatarian). We tend to eat in restaurants so all order what we want, and share the bits we can/want to eat with each other. Maybe it depends on the person. My vegan family members do things like wanting to cook first so that utensils/sink etc aren't contaminated (and therefore eat first as their food would get cold); move seats to be farthest from the bird/joint; insist on a separate shelf in the fridge for their vegan foods etc. The 'center of gravity' of the day is just missing when one entire family is sitting playing games during Christmas lunch because they've already eaten. Not everyone would be like this, though, perhaps there are vegans and vegetarians who aren't so anally retentive about it all. As I said, I personally wouldn't have a problem on holiday with a vegetarian for a week: I'd probably eat all veggie food all week bar one or two meals (probably the ones that are eaten out/takeaway).

AlisonDonut · 07/10/2024 17:25

Onlyonekenobe · 07/10/2024 17:19

Eh?

This is what I have learned in my life which I share with my vegan family members. What on earth qualifies you, a random on the internet, to say that this is absolute bollocks?

I didn't say that EVERYONE sharing a festive meal with ANYONE AT ALL who has a different diet MUST feel this way. I am sharing my experience of my life.

No you did - you said 'Food has to be just something people need to consume during the day to do other stuff'

Which is utter bollocks. Just because you can't cook good food, doesn't mean the rest of us can't.

schloss · 07/10/2024 17:24

@Lorey Support the local farmers in the Lakes by purchasing local meat. Booths is your friend for lots of veggie meals, fresh and frozen.

Commonsense22 · 07/10/2024 17:22

exprecis · 07/10/2024 17:16

I actually kind of agree with this. But there is, of course, the option to all eat the same thing .. a vegetarian dish.

But like all the other options, the OP doesn't like it

That involves sacrificing her enjoyment of food (because I think some people really don't get how hungry / unfulfilled a veggie meal feels to some others) if done over the course of a week.

Of course it's possible, it's just not as fun as the alternative. I speak as someone with medical dietary requirements who never ever expects others to cater to me. I miss being able to partake in shared meals, and I'm the one with the requirements now.

Blueblell · 07/10/2024 17:20

My kids are veggie and I am not - everyone’s free choice. However, I like to eat meat and often do the veggie and meat versions of dishes by making a common base/sauce and then making it into two dishes. Veggie and meat chilli, cottage pie, curry ect ect.

You shouldn’t be expected to only eat vegetarian dishes and there isn’t a need to.

Onlyonekenobe · 07/10/2024 17:19

AlisonDonut · 07/10/2024 17:15

Absolute bollocks.

Eh?

This is what I have learned in my life which I share with my vegan family members. What on earth qualifies you, a random on the internet, to say that this is absolute bollocks?

I didn't say that EVERYONE sharing a festive meal with ANYONE AT ALL who has a different diet MUST feel this way. I am sharing my experience of my life.

SilenceInside · 07/10/2024 17:19

@Commonsense22 I couldn't possibly count the number of times ive had Christmas, new year, birthdays with my DPs family and siblings who are not vegetarian, whilst everyone enjoys sharing food. Why would you think that's not possible? Just because I'm not eating one or two elements and having a small alternative?

AlisonDonut · 07/10/2024 17:18

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 07/10/2024 17:05

I suspect the OP would find it a huge inconvenience to not cook the potatoes and veg in duck/goose fat. Even if she doesn't do that any other time.

The horror!

exprecis · 07/10/2024 17:16

Commonsense22 · 07/10/2024 17:15

It's just not the same. There's something about cultures where everyone is sharing one dish that is just absent when everyone eats their own thing. I totally get the poster who misses not being able to rejoice around a turkey all together.
With the potential for judgement etc.

Prep time is added, you have to cook in a style that isn't yours, you can't relax.
It's just not the same.

But it's necessary in today's world.

I actually kind of agree with this. But there is, of course, the option to all eat the same thing .. a vegetarian dish.

But like all the other options, the OP doesn't like it

AlisonDonut · 07/10/2024 17:15

Onlyonekenobe · 07/10/2024 17:00

I've learned from holidays with the vegan family members: food can't be a big part of it. Thanksgiving cannot be about sitting around a feast centering a turkey. Christmas cannot be about sitting down to a nice meal centered around a beef joint, pigs in blankets, pork and apple stuffing, yorkshire puddings, potatoes in duck fat, red cabbage with honey, mashed potatoes with milk and butter and creme fraiche etc. Food has to be just something people need to consume during the day to do other stuff. Which is a crying shame, but the alternative is that what could be an enjoyable activity ends up being a completely unenjoyable chore (cooking two of everything, compromises because you can't find this or that ingredient, turns out the vegan doesn't like such and such vegetable, you feel guilty eating bacon and medium-done beef etc etc). I tell myself that ultimately it's about being together and food isn't the be all and end all even though for me it actually really is at those times of year, if only to get away from too much family time...

Absolute bollocks.

Commonsense22 · 07/10/2024 17:15

HappyDane · 07/10/2024 17:11

What? Of course it can still be centred around a shared enjoyment of food.

It's just not the same. There's something about cultures where everyone is sharing one dish that is just absent when everyone eats their own thing. I totally get the poster who misses not being able to rejoice around a turkey all together.
With the potential for judgement etc.

Prep time is added, you have to cook in a style that isn't yours, you can't relax.
It's just not the same.

But it's necessary in today's world.

SilenceInside · 07/10/2024 17:15

@Commonsense22 one study with a speculative theory does not make "lots of evidence". Even if what you were saying is true, there's no evidence that the OP and her partner are incapable of eating a vegetarian diet. Furthermore, they don't have to! She can cook her normal food, and then make some small adjustments to include the GF.

exprecis · 07/10/2024 17:12

HappyDane · 07/10/2024 17:11

What? Of course it can still be centred around a shared enjoyment of food.

Quite.

And not everyone likes the same things anyway. Would the OP be distraught if someone was allergic to something and she had to cook it differently? Or just didn't really like beef wellington?