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To want to tell friend how her son has treated my daughter…

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Watermelon212 · 07/10/2024 13:32

Currently fighting the urge to tell friend the above. I won’t because friend is lovely and her son is an adult (18). Instead when I meet up with her I plaster a smile on while listening to how happy her son is and how well he’s doing, while knowing my daughter is struggling and isolated, caused in part by her son.

Her son has treated my daughter very badly, he has trampled over her feelings, left her in a very vulnerable situation on a night out and betrayed her trust by secretly pursuing her best friend.

They have just started uni, it’s already an emotional time, when you want to make new connections but rely on home friends for support. My daughter is about to have that support pulled out from under her when she finds out that her “boyfriend “ who she thought was into her is now actually with her best friend and she has no idea yet. They have both kept it from her.

I found out through my other child and have no idea if I tell her or not. She is already struggling to settle into uni.

thanks

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Dotto · 07/10/2024 14:24

I think she would do well to get a part time job, and join a feminism group at uni, and a sports team. She needs to learn there is more to life than him.

Flugelb1nder · 07/10/2024 14:24

Watermelon212 · 07/10/2024 14:22

She did make sure she could get home, which is why she arranged it beforehand

There is a lot of female bashing on this thread, and a lot of excuses being made for shitty male behaviour

edited to say, sadly in this day and age women are more vulnerable when they are walking home alone

Edited

Female bashing? I do not see this - what is right is right - and there is nothing there that makes me see this guy has done wrong nor the female some victim of sorts.
Just a lot of immaturity - thats the worst of it

Watermelon212 · 07/10/2024 14:23

itwasnevermine · 07/10/2024 14:21

@Watermelon212 okay so not ideal behaviour but certainly not the worst thing I've heard of on a night out.

You must have some really bad friends then! I don’t know many people who would be like this without trying to ensure the loan person got home okay

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FrauPaige · 07/10/2024 14:23

Stand down, stand down.

Part of life is loving and losing, and through that process we sharpen our women-senses. Experience and wounds replace nativity and blind trust. The better judgement we acquire earns an essential enhancement in our taste of men.

Let her live and learn. Your role is to be there to support her when needed.

She has OLD ahead of her with all of its non-exclusive, text based, accelerated, hyper-sexualised dating. What you describe with this boy is delightfully quaint and wonderfully 1989 in comparison!

soupfiend · 07/10/2024 14:23

Watermelon212 · 07/10/2024 14:22

She did make sure she could get home, which is why she arranged it beforehand

There is a lot of female bashing on this thread, and a lot of excuses being made for shitty male behaviour

edited to say, sadly in this day and age women are more vulnerable when they are walking home alone

Edited

How was she stranded then if she had means to get home, friend changes their mind (as they are entitled to do), goes off on his own, she calls a cab or calls you or public transport or whatever plan she had?

Flugelb1nder · 07/10/2024 14:22

Watermelon212 · 07/10/2024 14:21

She probably is naive but has only just turned 18.

I would agree she needs to rethink her boundaries and I have been trying to recommend this as far as I can being a parent.

My issue is still very much against the boy who put her in this situation.

He didn't put her in that situation.

Your daughter is not a victim here.

soupfiend · 07/10/2024 14:22

Watermelon212 · 07/10/2024 14:19

How am I meddling?

Sitting around mithering about whether to/wanting to tell the blokes mum.

Stay out of it, both mentally in your own head or verbally

You're putting far too much responsibility onto him to manage your daughters expectations, feelings and practical matters like getting home.

Watermelon212 · 07/10/2024 14:22

soupfiend · 07/10/2024 14:21

Stranded in what way, was she not able tod call for a cab or call you?

She has a responsbility to make sure she can get home from anywhere, never rely on someone else.

She did make sure she could get home, which is why she arranged it beforehand

There is a lot of female bashing on this thread, and a lot of excuses being made for shitty male behaviour

edited to say, sadly in this day and age women are more vulnerable when they are walking home alone

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itwasnevermine · 07/10/2024 14:21

@Watermelon212 okay so not ideal behaviour but certainly not the worst thing I've heard of on a night out.

Watermelon212 · 07/10/2024 14:21

Floppyelf · 07/10/2024 14:19

Your issue isn’t the boy but your daughter. She sounds naive and have low boundaries. Shore that up and you won’t have to worry about telling anyone how their son behaves unless they commit a crime.

She probably is naive but has only just turned 18.

I would agree she needs to rethink her boundaries and I have been trying to recommend this as far as I can being a parent.

My issue is still very much against the boy who put her in this situation.

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soupfiend · 07/10/2024 14:21

Watermelon212 · 07/10/2024 14:07

Agreed they would walk home together because they are both living nearby.

Decided at the end of the night to go back to other friends house leaving her stranded to get herself home

Edited to add, “agreed” means dd asked him if she would be able to walk back with him and he said yes, then didn’t.

Edited

Stranded in what way, was she not able tod call for a cab or call you?

She has a responsbility to make sure she can get home from anywhere, never rely on someone else.

Flugelb1nder · 07/10/2024 14:20

OP Shes an adult

Shes fine - I know it is upsetting to know your kid has a heartache, but its part of adulthood sadly

I think people assume you may be meddling as you are talking of going to the boys mother to discus his wrongdoings - PS if you do this, you will at best, loose a friend - you could also put your own daughter at arms length and make her wary of discussing private issues with you

Watermelon212 · 07/10/2024 14:19

itwasnevermine · 07/10/2024 14:19

@Watermelon212 did they explicitly agree they'd be going home together?

Yes

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Floppyelf · 07/10/2024 14:19

Watermelon212 · 07/10/2024 13:41

Not her official boyfriend but had been very close for past year and dd thought they were moving towards that. I admit based on what she told me I would have thought so too.

Your issue isn’t the boy but your daughter. She sounds naive and have low boundaries. Shore that up and you won’t have to worry about telling anyone how their son behaves unless they commit a crime.

Watermelon212 · 07/10/2024 14:19

soupfiend · 07/10/2024 14:18

Stop meddling or being involved, she is an adult and this is part of life unfortunately. People fall in and out of love or think they're keen ons omeone then realise they're not, then realise they're keen on someone else, round and round it goes

It will be painful for her and awful but there will be plenty more experiences like this, just be there for her.

How am I meddling?

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itwasnevermine · 07/10/2024 14:19

@Watermelon212 did they explicitly agree they'd be going home together?

Flugelb1nder · 07/10/2024 14:19

Honestly, if you came to me to tell me that my son had wronged your daughter in this way - it wouldnt go down well

Watermelon212 · 07/10/2024 14:18

Flugelb1nder · 07/10/2024 14:14

I think there's been a lot of assumptions by your daughter here and no clear comms.

Unrequited love is awful, but it is not his fault he doesn't feel the same but you should stay out of it

Edited

Before she went to uni, I drummed into her the importance of always walking home with somebody and never leaving anyone on their own.

She hadn’t been out much because none of her flat want to go out and it was difficult to find people to go out with.

She made sure she had someone to walk back with like I had advised her and it was shitty behaviour by him. If that was my son, I would be ashamed.

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soupfiend · 07/10/2024 14:18

Stop meddling or being involved, she is an adult and this is part of life unfortunately. People fall in and out of love or think they're keen ons omeone then realise they're not, then realise they're keen on someone else, round and round it goes

It will be painful for her and awful but there will be plenty more experiences like this, just be there for her.

Flugelb1nder · 07/10/2024 14:17

DoreenonTill8 · 07/10/2024 14:15

This, have they kissed?

This x 2

What has this guy actually done wrong, other than not fancy your daughter, OP?

Yeah he went off to have fun elsewhere, but was your daughter actually stranded and unable to get home?

MarginallyBetter · 07/10/2024 14:17

Watermelon212 · 07/10/2024 14:01

At best he has been an emotional fuckwit.

He knows she likes him and has encouraged that for his ego and allowed her to think he was interested without being honest.

He left her stranded and alone on a night out to walk home herself in the early hours which is the main thing I’m fuming about

He is actively pursuing her friend and has been on dates.

I know I can’t complain to his mum ffs, but she is my friend and is telling me what a lovely time he is having and how he is out all the time and it’s hurting to hear it

With respect, given that you're hearing this from your daughter who possibly fundamentally misread the situation, you can have no idea if he 'encouraged' her sexual interest in him. If he did, well that's a difficult but ultimately useful lesson for your DD, something that has probably happened to us all at least once in our teens (and I genuinely feel for her -- we've all been there). It may well be that he was originally interested in her in sexual/romantic terms, but ceased to feel that way, or he realised the seriousness with which she was regarding it all, or didn't want to be her sole emotional support...? Or he didn't want to screw up her A-level year? I don't know, but there are perfectly possible ways of reading it which don't make him an utter bastard.

Marblesbackagain · 07/10/2024 14:17

Watermelon212 · 07/10/2024 14:07

Agreed they would walk home together because they are both living nearby.

Decided at the end of the night to go back to other friends house leaving her stranded to get herself home

Edited to add, “agreed” means dd asked him if she would be able to walk back with him and he said yes, then didn’t.

Edited

Your daughter needs to always have a safe way to get home without relying on another. That was rammed into in the 90s by my father.

In my opinion it isn't fair to blame him. She either is an adult able to get places independently or not. Of course young people hook up or head to after after parties. It happened in the 90s and happens today.

Can you have a chat or is there others who can give her a steer on the college and social norms because she may have a different perspective than a lot of young people.

Op your opening post I feel is disingenuous. He didn't place her in harms way, she was somewhere he did not accompany her home as agreed, she had options, ring a taxi, friend etc. He wasn't her boyfriend, I think you are being very unfair.

DoreenonTill8 · 07/10/2024 14:15

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 07/10/2024 14:01

what did he do on the night out that left her vulnerable?

The other stuff - has he done anything wrong? Has he kissed her? flirted with her (actually flirted)? Told her he wants to be with her? Or is she viewing his friendship through her own filter of being attracted to him and reading more into things than are actually there?

It could well be that he and this other young woman know your daughter has a massive crush on him and are trying to avoid upsetting her.

This, have they kissed?

Cheeseandbean · 07/10/2024 14:15

It’s sounds like a potential lucky escape OP - he sounds manipulative and a bit of a user and hence not a great catch anyway . Some of that of course may just be his age only time will tell.

This is just part of growing up though , it was messy and sometimes hard in our day and I’m sure the fundamentals haven’t changed .

All you and Your other child can do is support her when it all cOmes out . It hard to know whether you can drop a hint somehow to help prepare her when it does come out .

I think I’d be suggesting she come home for a weekend of home comforts or having a weekend away to go see her and treat her

Watermelon212 · 07/10/2024 14:15

yumyum33 · 07/10/2024 14:12

"He left her stranded and alone on a night out to walk home herself in the early hours"

That's horrible. Even if your daughter misread his feelings for her, no decent male friend does this. Indeed no friend , m or f, does that in this day and age.

I agree I am fuming about this.

when I heard I didn’t sleep all night worrying about what could have happened and how she must have felt

she would never do this to anyone

I think it’s a shock that he’s not even a nice friend when she needs nice people around her

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