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To be disturbed by Netflix 'Breeders'

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Overhype · 07/10/2024 11:10

With Martin Freeman. Is this bordering on abuse dressed up as acceptable parent burn out? It is supposed to be loosely based on Martin Freeman's own experiences? I'm sure it is exaggerated, but I an finding parts of it not funny at all. It just gets good, than an extreme "joke" is thrown in which is to me far too aggressive. I find Ally such a pathetic wet rag of a character, smiling and excusing her husband for his vile swearing rants at their children?
No parents is perfect, but there are certain parts of this that make me question how it even passed as a comedy. I'd imagine some parts of this would be triggering for some people who won't have a clue that they'll take it so far, and are expecting to see a comedic representation of "normal" patenting. It all seems to be excused by Paul saying he loves the kids, as if that cancels out his aggressive nature. When social services get involved it is passed off as being somehow over the top, when in actuality it isn't imo.

What do you think?

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Peclet · 07/10/2024 17:35

It IS slightly based on his parenting life @30percent which you keep skirting. Also very invested for someone who had never watched it.

c’mon, you’re one of the writers????

SaveItForTheBirds · 07/10/2024 17:28

Nobody's laughing at the abuse though? No one's watching and thinking 'haha, what a funny man verbally abusing his children' are they? The comedy comes from elsewhere.

Frowningprovidence · 07/10/2024 17:21

theemptinessmachine · 07/10/2024 17:15

I've heard parents say worse in supermarkets and on the street. Not often but I have.

But did you laugh?

theemptinessmachine · 07/10/2024 17:15

I've heard parents say worse in supermarkets and on the street. Not often but I have.

theresabluebirdinmyheart · 07/10/2024 17:14

EachandEveryone · 07/10/2024 17:11

i imagine him to be like that in real life I’ve never taken to him.

Yes apparently it’s based on his own parenting experiences so that says a lot.

Mainoo72 · 07/10/2024 17:14

30percent · 07/10/2024 16:50

It's not their dad though is it? He's an actor and they're actors and they know it's not real.
Thats assuming they're even in the same room when he is shouting and the directors haven't been doing some fancy editing so the children don't hear it.

Seriously this thread is ridiculous I was hit with a belt as a child and turned out fine (not saying that's ok) and you people think the actors are going to be traumatised because they heard sone shouty swear words.

Good god if you don't like it just dont watch it

People are allowed to discuss their views on a TV programme, it’s kind of what a forum is for. Get off the thread if you don’t like it & leave everyone else to share their views. Any reason you’re so particularly offended by this thread?

EachandEveryone · 07/10/2024 17:11

i imagine him to be like that in real life I’ve never taken to him.

Mainoo72 · 07/10/2024 17:10

It’s awful & just not funny. I agree that it’s abuse dressed up as entertainment.

scoobiedoozie · 07/10/2024 17:02

I agree OP. I felt the same and couldn't get through the first episode.

NashvilleQueen · 07/10/2024 17:00

After finding the first few episodes very difficult I grew to like it a lot. There's significant character development and some genuinely moving moments. I think he represents (albeit in an exaggerated way) a middle class angst about parenting when it isn't all unicorns and rainbows and you let yourself down in handling things.

30percent · 07/10/2024 16:50

theresabluebirdinmyheart · 07/10/2024 15:26

The Simpsons actually has had a lot of criticism over the Homer strangling Bart gag over the years… kids knowing a few swear words isn’t the same as their dad regularly screaming obscenities at them for simply being kids because he can’t regulate his adult emotions.

It's not their dad though is it? He's an actor and they're actors and they know it's not real.
Thats assuming they're even in the same room when he is shouting and the directors haven't been doing some fancy editing so the children don't hear it.

Seriously this thread is ridiculous I was hit with a belt as a child and turned out fine (not saying that's ok) and you people think the actors are going to be traumatised because they heard sone shouty swear words.

Good god if you don't like it just dont watch it

SaveItForTheBirds · 07/10/2024 16:49

Overhype · 07/10/2024 14:09

Does he go to therapy or anger management, cbt etc? Acknowledging and doing something about it are two entirely different things. Loads of abusive individuals know they're behaving badly, yet can't help themselves, so this isn't an excuse either. It should be recategorised as a drama.

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If it was reclassified as a drama, that wouldn't actually change the content though? I don't base my opinion of things on how they're categorised, just how much I enjoying watching them. There's an awful lot of TV which treads the line between comedy and drama, they tend to be the things I enjoy watching the most.

There's also a few people on here who are suggesting this is an exaggerated version of normal life. Which it may be to most people, but this is normal life for plenty. It's not a relationship I'd want to be in and it's not a life I'd want to emulate but of course there are families like this. Angry men fucking up their children while their wives hang around hoping it will get better. It's real life, just not a very palatable part.

Showing stuff like this on TV isn't an endorsement, not everything has to be fluffy and sanitised.

forgotmypassagain · 07/10/2024 16:11

KrisAkabusi · 07/10/2024 11:39

I'd imagine some parts of this would be triggering for some people who won't have a clue that they'll take it so far, and are expecting to see a comedic representation of "normal" patenting.

So all comedy has to be safe and "normal"? That's ridiculous. Comedy in particular has always pushed boundaries. Nobody has a right not to be offended, particularly when it's not actually being offensive against any group.

This! I watched it and I enjoyed it.

Doggymummar · 07/10/2024 16:05

I've never thought of it as a comedy. I thought it was a drama, gulps. No started series 4 yet

Blondiebeachbabe · 07/10/2024 16:03

I think it's absolutely brilliant! We have been really laughing out loud, at so much of it. It's clearly a dark comedy. My own Dad was far more vocal than "Paul" when we were growing up - maybe I have a thick skin? His parents are so similar to how my Dad is now. Best thing I've watched in years. Martin Freeman is the best actor ever, imo. His facial expressions tell you everything he is feeling.

theresabluebirdinmyheart · 07/10/2024 15:26

30percent · 07/10/2024 14:54

Haven't watched it don't know anything about it I see on this thread people saying the dad shouts and swears at the kids well homer straight up strangles Bart!! And I'm yet to see anyone claim the Simpsons disturbs them. I mean it being a cartoon is irrelevant because I imagine breeders was filmed using split screens so the kids probably didnt hear any swearwords.

Although let's be honest most kids already know swearwords from their classmates at school

The Simpsons actually has had a lot of criticism over the Homer strangling Bart gag over the years… kids knowing a few swear words isn’t the same as their dad regularly screaming obscenities at them for simply being kids because he can’t regulate his adult emotions.

Allfur · 07/10/2024 15:15

Cyclebabble · 07/10/2024 15:13

Interestingly I thought this when I watched the programme on Sky. I think that Freeman's character is being presented as a troubled and stressed man, when what I often see is someone delivering significant abuse to all members of his family and his language is vile. LTB in my view.

How do you know she doesn't

Allfur · 07/10/2024 15:15

exprecis · 07/10/2024 14:21

I haven't finished it but I do find it slightly uncomfortable viewing at times.

It reminds me a lot, tone wise, of Fawlty Towers. It is funny at times but also horrifying at the same time

I mentioned fawlty towers earlier, which whilst having more laughs per minute, is essentially about a monster of a man

Cyclebabble · 07/10/2024 15:13

Interestingly I thought this when I watched the programme on Sky. I think that Freeman's character is being presented as a troubled and stressed man, when what I often see is someone delivering significant abuse to all members of his family and his language is vile. LTB in my view.

namechangetheworld · 07/10/2024 15:11

PersephoneAgrees · 07/10/2024 14:49

Do some people not understand the difference between fact and fiction? Breeders is a TV series, not a reality show featuring Martin Freeman’s parenting style 🙄

And the children weren’t present during the swearing scenes.

Wholeheartedly agree. A few posters seem to implying this show is a reflection of Freeman's real-life parenting, which is revolting.

DoctorMarten · 07/10/2024 14:55

Hated it. Hideous unfunny rubbish.

Mirabai · 07/10/2024 14:55

I could only watch a couple of episodes. It reads like a dramatisation of the Lundy Bancroft book “Why does he do that?”. Maybe he gets his comeuppance eventually, but I didn’t get that far. In the early episodes it just felt like the writers thought abuse was funny.

30percent · 07/10/2024 14:54

Peclet · 07/10/2024 14:50

@30percent I love the Simpsons, it being a cartoon and all.

I have read that while Breeders is not fully autobiographical, it is somewhat based on your, sorry. I mean Martin Freemans own personal life.

Can you confirm or deny?

Haven't watched it don't know anything about it I see on this thread people saying the dad shouts and swears at the kids well homer straight up strangles Bart!! And I'm yet to see anyone claim the Simpsons disturbs them. I mean it being a cartoon is irrelevant because I imagine breeders was filmed using split screens so the kids probably didnt hear any swearwords.

Although let's be honest most kids already know swearwords from their classmates at school

Peclet · 07/10/2024 14:50

@30percent I love the Simpsons, it being a cartoon and all.

I have read that while Breeders is not fully autobiographical, it is somewhat based on your, sorry. I mean Martin Freemans own personal life.

Can you confirm or deny?

PersephoneAgrees · 07/10/2024 14:49

Do some people not understand the difference between fact and fiction? Breeders is a TV series, not a reality show featuring Martin Freeman’s parenting style 🙄

And the children weren’t present during the swearing scenes.