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To not ask the bride to approve my outfit for the wedding

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Cupcakemum79 · 07/10/2024 10:22

Well basically this.. apparently all the other friends and family have sent her pictures of what the were planning to wear for her wedding. She made some scathing remarks about her sister in law who wanted to buy a dress she would also be able to wear after the wedding. Apparently that's shameful behaviour, just like wearing a black dress. Also, not realising that I am now also a size 14, she was very insulting about the fact that her sister in law thought that wearing shapewear might make the dress she wanted suitable (of course she didn't get to buy that, but instead had to buy what was deemed suitable buy the bride 'for her size'.

I should say, that me and 2 other friends were regarded by her as 'like bridesmaids' but not officially... well that also means we are expected to be at her house at 8 in the morning on the wedding day watching her get dressed, make up, hair done etc. But even after spending a lot of time and money organising her hen's do (well 2 days actually instead of 1 to accommodate her sister in law, we are expected to organise and pay for our own hair dresser. How we are going to fit in if we have to spend the entire morning a her house I don't know. Also we are not invited to dinner, only the parents and the witnesses.

So I guess the fact that she now expects to approve my outfit just grates with me. Feels like she has one a bit bridezilla to me.

Also - there are no dress rules on the invitation and last year she still said that we should just wear what we like.. (guess that has changed(

So am I unreasonable?
YES you are being unreasonable - this is her wedding and it's normal that she wants to make sure everyone wears something that fits her idea of the wedding.
NO - you are not being unreasonable and this sounds a bit bridezilla

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TheKeatingFive · 07/10/2024 11:41

That's batshit. Don't do it. 😬

Cupcakemum79 · 07/10/2024 11:39

Musicaltheatremum · 07/10/2024 11:35

Friend (male) arrived at our wedding looking like he'd been dragged through a hedge backwards. My husband and I did laugh about it. They'd come from Switzerland and we're going on an activity holiday afterwards so think things got a bit squashed. Just delighted they came to be honest. We were in our late 50s/early 60s and second time for both so these bridezilla things didn't bother us.

How great of him to make such an effort! Lovely friend!

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Dontbeme · 07/10/2024 11:37

Cupcakemum79 · 07/10/2024 11:31

Yes that's what's the plan: we can come over in the morning to make the getting ready special for her, then go to the ceremony with partner somehow and then wait until the party in the evening...

Make the getting ready "special" for her? The woman that doesn't think highly enough of her friends to feed them dinner, expects you to sit on your arse in her house for the morning watching her get a face full of slap, have you and your DH drive two cars to the same event, then spend the afternoon kicking about, then be grateful to get to go to the evening bit. Why, just why have you agreed to this?
She wants champagne Instagram princess pictures on a Tesco own label budget.

Cupcakemum79 · 07/10/2024 11:36

PosiePetal · 07/10/2024 11:27

Sounds like an attempt to get a couple of freebee bridesmaids. She sounds like an absolutely awful person for criticising peoples dress choice and size. I couldn’t be friends with her, personally, I guess all you can do is stand firm in your dress choice and distance yourself.

I had to fight so hard not to give her my opinion on how she had treated her sister in law over her dress. The way she showed us a picture and said 'well it's like a size 16 trying to fit into a 14, and I told her that shapewear wouldn't help, so no she couldn't wear the dress'. I know that the SIL doesn't have anywhere near her income and that the SIL does have other difficulties I felt so very sorry for the SIL and so very angry at her. But is was the breakfast after the hen do, and as usual we are trying to keep everything nice for the bride. She did ask me why I was so quiet after that remark, I was seething...

Why do we do that though? it's just someone getting married?

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Musicaltheatremum · 07/10/2024 11:35

Friend (male) arrived at our wedding looking like he'd been dragged through a hedge backwards. My husband and I did laugh about it. They'd come from Switzerland and we're going on an activity holiday afterwards so think things got a bit squashed. Just delighted they came to be honest. We were in our late 50s/early 60s and second time for both so these bridezilla things didn't bother us.

kolalumps · 07/10/2024 11:35

Act stupid and uninformed.
wear what you want. On her big day, shush her if she starts being negative.

”Aw this is your big day, don’t ruin your makeup with frowny face”😂

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 07/10/2024 11:31

If this was my normally lovely friend, I would tell myself that she has gone raving mad, but temporarily, and will hopefully be sane again after the honeymoon, so I need to survive the next few weeks... And meanwhile, I would buy the dress I want and send her a photo saying I had to grab it without first getting her approval because it was on sale and I'm a bit broke at the moment, isn't the dress absolutely perfect, and how is everything else going?

Cupcakemum79 · 07/10/2024 11:31

yeesh · 07/10/2024 11:24

Are you in the UK? I’ve never heard of people not being invited to the ‘dinner’? Do you mean that you are going to the ceremony and then have to entertain yourselves for a bit before the party in the night? That’s really odd if so

Yes that's what's the plan: we can come over in the morning to make the getting ready special for her, then go to the ceremony with partner somehow and then wait until the party in the evening...

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PosiePetal · 07/10/2024 11:27

Sounds like an attempt to get a couple of freebee bridesmaids. She sounds like an absolutely awful person for criticising peoples dress choice and size. I couldn’t be friends with her, personally, I guess all you can do is stand firm in your dress choice and distance yourself.

yeesh · 07/10/2024 11:24

Are you in the UK? I’ve never heard of people not being invited to the ‘dinner’? Do you mean that you are going to the ceremony and then have to entertain yourselves for a bit before the party in the night? That’s really odd if so

ComtesseDeSpair · 07/10/2024 11:24

Cupcakemum79 · 07/10/2024 11:14

Actually I did bring this up with her: the plain logistics of the day won't allow us to go to the hair dresser or even change if we have to spend the entire morning at her house but don't get ready ourselves. Also our partners are of course not invited to the house, but do have to be there at the ceremony somehow..good thing we have two cars! But then, we still don't know how to get our daughter to her grand parents before the party in the evening, no children allowed, if we also want to have dinner somewhere..

Her answer was that we could arrange to get our hair dresser to come to her house or she could ask if her hair dresser would have time for us. But making it very plain that we will be paying ourselves...
I guess I am just too soft, but I would have paid for that, as a thank you.

It all sounds like you’re all making much more fuss than is needed. If you aren’t invited to the reception / dinner then I wouldn’t bother with your own professional hair and makeup only for sitting at the ceremony. Just do whatever you’d do for a night out or special occasion. Can grandparents not have DD for the whole day? If bride is having her own hair and makeup done professionally then what are you actually expected to do in the morning of her wedding? My friends all voluntarily came to the bridal suite on the morning of my wedding but it mostly consisted of us all drinking champagne in our bathrobes, it wasn’t a chore which any of them asked to be thanked for.

OctopusFriend · 07/10/2024 11:22

TwattyMcFuckFace · 07/10/2024 11:16

No sympathy for any of you.

You can only be a doormat if you're happy to lie down and allow people to wipe their feet on you.

Which you're all happily doing, so you'll have to suck it up 🤷‍♂️

This. Have some self regard. Don't do it.

Apollo365 · 07/10/2024 11:17

The person who voted YABU must be the bride 🤣👌🏼

ChampaignSupernova · 07/10/2024 11:16

A bit bridezilla? That's an understatement.

Why are you even friends with someone who is rude about people's weight/size and so bossy and demanding? Is she always so delightful?

TwattyMcFuckFace · 07/10/2024 11:16

Cupcakemum79 · 07/10/2024 11:05

I guess we are all trying to be nice to to the bride and I don't want to be the sour one ruining things either. I just hope she returns to normal after the wedding...

That reminds me, we also have to buy my husband a suit and of course also a present... and make dinner reservations together with the other two friends and their partners.
We could have had a weekend away for the total amount we will have spent on her wedding by the time we're done!

No sympathy for any of you.

You can only be a doormat if you're happy to lie down and allow people to wipe their feet on you.

Which you're all happily doing, so you'll have to suck it up 🤷‍♂️

dudsville · 07/10/2024 11:14

Where does this behaviour come from? What makes ordinary people think they're royalty (whom I loathe) for this incredibly ordinary thing? "Princess for the day". Why? Of course it's a very special day for the B&G and their loved ones, but what kind of madness takes hold in these people?

Anyhoo. I agree with the pp's, you've got to talk with your friend.

Cupcakemum79 · 07/10/2024 11:14

ComtesseDeSpair · 07/10/2024 11:06

If it’s not her usual behaviour and you actually like each other then why on earth don’t you say something? There’s no point just seething and getting resentful about the arrangements and costs and ending up with the friendship spoiled that way.

“Kate, I understand that wedding planning can be stressful and you want the day to be perfect, but you are being a knob about a lot of things and it’s making things stressful for me and no doubt many other guests. We can’t come and help you get ready in the morning if you aren’t going to include us in the hair and makeup session because we need time to get ready ourselves.”

Edited

Actually I did bring this up with her: the plain logistics of the day won't allow us to go to the hair dresser or even change if we have to spend the entire morning at her house but don't get ready ourselves. Also our partners are of course not invited to the house, but do have to be there at the ceremony somehow..good thing we have two cars! But then, we still don't know how to get our daughter to her grand parents before the party in the evening, no children allowed, if we also want to have dinner somewhere..

Her answer was that we could arrange to get our hair dresser to come to her house or she could ask if her hair dresser would have time for us. But making it very plain that we will be paying ourselves...
I guess I am just too soft, but I would have paid for that, as a thank you.

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independencefreedom · 07/10/2024 11:12

Cupcakemum79 · 07/10/2024 10:22

Well basically this.. apparently all the other friends and family have sent her pictures of what the were planning to wear for her wedding. She made some scathing remarks about her sister in law who wanted to buy a dress she would also be able to wear after the wedding. Apparently that's shameful behaviour, just like wearing a black dress. Also, not realising that I am now also a size 14, she was very insulting about the fact that her sister in law thought that wearing shapewear might make the dress she wanted suitable (of course she didn't get to buy that, but instead had to buy what was deemed suitable buy the bride 'for her size'.

I should say, that me and 2 other friends were regarded by her as 'like bridesmaids' but not officially... well that also means we are expected to be at her house at 8 in the morning on the wedding day watching her get dressed, make up, hair done etc. But even after spending a lot of time and money organising her hen's do (well 2 days actually instead of 1 to accommodate her sister in law, we are expected to organise and pay for our own hair dresser. How we are going to fit in if we have to spend the entire morning a her house I don't know. Also we are not invited to dinner, only the parents and the witnesses.

So I guess the fact that she now expects to approve my outfit just grates with me. Feels like she has one a bit bridezilla to me.

Also - there are no dress rules on the invitation and last year she still said that we should just wear what we like.. (guess that has changed(

So am I unreasonable?
YES you are being unreasonable - this is her wedding and it's normal that she wants to make sure everyone wears something that fits her idea of the wedding.
NO - you are not being unreasonable and this sounds a bit bridezilla

Either talk to her and ask her to dial things down a bit - say you're concerned as she isn't acting like herself. OR step back - quietly and graciously let her know you can't be there on the morning unfortunately, invent a plausible excuse. If she asks what you're wearing just say don't worry, it will be lovely. And then bat back any other questions and change to topic to whatever is going on in your life so she might realise that for the rest of you her wedding is not the absolute centre of your lives.

OctopusFriend · 07/10/2024 11:11

Bin that off, mate.
Save yourself some time, money and effort. Don't go.

Cupcakemum79 · 07/10/2024 11:09

Notwhatuwanttohear · 07/10/2024 10:49

Why are you going to all this effort and hassle for someone who thinks so little of you they don't even have the decency to invite you to the wedding dinner even though you are "like a bridesmaid"

Well, we did the same for the other friends that got married. And yes I knew I would have to spend money on the hen , though I hadn't expected to fund two!
Also as usual the three of us had a lot of fun arranging everything, and I felt like at least it would be time and money well spent.
Just feel like we don't get any appreciation for all of this from her.

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Ethylred · 07/10/2024 11:09

This is easily solved. Don't go.

Cupcakemum79 · 07/10/2024 11:07

WestwardHo1 · 07/10/2024 11:01

Eurgh. Why are weddings seen as such an excuse to behave so badly?

Fuck it all.

When I got married my MIL wore a trouser suit in a shade of lilac very close to (but not close enough) to the bridesmaids. I didn't have a clue she as planning on it and it didn't occur to me to mind.

(Coincidentally this woman is now an ex MIL and from what I know now of her personality, I can't shake the feeling it was deliberate 😂. But if she wanted to piss me off at the time, she failed)

No idea, this is the first time I have had this kind of experience.. is tis some kind of virus some brides get infected by? 😁

Very nice of you to just accept your MIL like that, it can't be worth it to start something over that right?

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Brefugee · 07/10/2024 11:06

She is batshit and needs a reality check, and you as a friend can be the one to deliver it. Surely building up all this resentment of her behaviour won't make for a lovely wedding and reception if you're all seething at her over the steamed salmon?

ComtesseDeSpair · 07/10/2024 11:06

If it’s not her usual behaviour and you actually like each other then why on earth don’t you say something? There’s no point just seething and getting resentful about the arrangements and costs and ending up with the friendship spoiled that way.

“Kate, I understand that wedding planning can be stressful and you want the day to be perfect, but you are being a knob about a lot of things and it’s making things stressful for me and no doubt many other guests. We can’t come and help you get ready in the morning if you aren’t going to include us in the hair and makeup session because we need time to get ready ourselves.”

Cupcakemum79 · 07/10/2024 11:05

TwattyMcFuckFace · 07/10/2024 11:00

It's not her usual behaviour, so yes actually I usually like her very much and we do get on well, the four of us a group.

You get on so well that not one of you can explain how her behaviour is making you feel? 🙄

There are some very weird 'friendships' on Mumsnet.

I guess we are all trying to be nice to to the bride and I don't want to be the sour one ruining things either. I just hope she returns to normal after the wedding...

That reminds me, we also have to buy my husband a suit and of course also a present... and make dinner reservations together with the other two friends and their partners.
We could have had a weekend away for the total amount we will have spent on her wedding by the time we're done!

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