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To think this is quite enlightening re fitness/weight loss

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Catrinacarina · 07/10/2024 08:50

I keep very fit but find it harder to shift weight as I get older.

I used to be really social but recently I’ve been really focussed on getting even more fit as DH and I are going away for our 20 year anniversary and I want to be even fitter than I was at our wedding.

I have cut back massively on eating out, drinking, going to the pub with mates, Costa with the school mums, etc. I’ll usually go to the gym once DH is home instead and go for a run once I take the kids to school, but otherwise I’m pretty much at home, in the name of healthy living. I’ve been surprised that the progress has been slower than usual. I’m not actually trying to lose weight, just tone up, but I had expected some weight loss just because of all the working out.

Today I saw a video (admittedly from a much younger woman) saying that she was living similarly to me for a while while trying to shift some weight, and then had a really busy couple of weeks of socialising, and realised she’d lost far more weight from going out a lot and living a busy life (including restaurants and pubs), than from staying home and eating healthy and exercising, because she was simply moving her body a lot more.

I’ve been really into fitness for years but I found this a really interesting and enlightening thought that makes a lot of sense.

Obviously there’s degrees of it, and this doesn’t work if you’re going out to demolish a box of donuts every day or drink 10 pints, but ultimately it’s calories in and calories out, and there are lot of calories not being burnt
if you’re staying at home all day, however virtuous it might feel.

This isn’t supposed to be weight loss advice as everyone’s bodies and routines are different but for the “average” person I thought it was a good point and food for thought - no pun intended!

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amoreoamicizia · 07/10/2024 13:10

@Sundaymondaytuesdayetc "fat lazy northerners" were your offensive words, NOT mine. As a northerner, I find your use of language offensive, actually.

rainfallpurevividcat · 07/10/2024 13:08

I go out a fair bit and was busy every weekend in September. I gained weight.

amoreoamicizia · 07/10/2024 13:07

Sundaymondaytuesdayetc · 07/10/2024 13:05

You say it's a fact. Is this assertion based on scientific research?

Edited

Why should I be singled out to back up my comment with scientific research, no one else on the thread is? Just because you have a chip on your shoulder?

I could find a map to support it because that'd where I learned this but I have better things to do.

amoreoamicizia · 07/10/2024 13:06

I just take issue with the blanket assertion the poster made which implies everyone in London is slimmer than everywhere else in the UK.

I made no such assertion. You are obviously sensitive about this issue which has influenced your interpretation but if you look again, I said none of the things which you are incorrectly accusing me of.

Sundaymondaytuesdayetc · 07/10/2024 13:05

amoreoamicizia · 07/10/2024 13:04

What a ridiculous response. I said nothing about northerners, that has come entirely from you. Nor was it a jibe, it's simply a fact that Londoners are slimmer.

You say it's a fact. Is this assertion based on scientific research?

Sundaymondaytuesdayetc · 07/10/2024 13:04

MyCosyRaven · 07/10/2024 12:52

Well off people are slimmer on average. Areas with high poverty in the UK have more fat people. So if commenter is hanging about places like Chelsea and then travels to Bradford, she will see more slimmer people in London.

Well of course you are right that well off people are generally slimmer and have the opportunity to eat healthier diets and the opportunity to exercise.
But most cities, and a lot of towns, in the UK have affluent areas.
Most cities in the UK have people who are scooting around with a hectic life style and , God forbid, actually walk around a lot.
And there are actually slim people outside London.

I just take issue with the blanket assertion the poster made which implies everyone in London is slimmer than everywhere else in the UK.
It really feeds into the perception a lot of people have about the superior, London centric attitude a lot of Londoners have about the rest of the country.

amoreoamicizia · 07/10/2024 13:04

Sundaymondaytuesdayetc · 07/10/2024 12:41

Trying to work out whether this is a tongue in cheek remark or an unpleasant jibe at fat lazy northerners.

What a ridiculous response. I said nothing about northerners, that has come entirely from you. Nor was it a jibe, it's simply a fact that Londoners are slimmer.

MyCosyRaven · 07/10/2024 12:57

Going new places uses more energy. As people get older they tend to get stuck in the same routine.

SensibleSigma · 07/10/2024 12:53

As someone with a chronic illness- socialising and being out and about is exhausting!

The brain uses loads of energy, apparently. So a quiet life is much less fatiguing and uses fewer calories than a challenging life!

I dial down animation, avoid excitement, just potter quietly at home. That is sustainable for me. Going out, being anxious about socialising, socialising, wondering where my mate went or whether we’ll make that table booking in time, all that stuff you do ‘outside’ uses energy.

ticktock19 · 07/10/2024 12:52

I think it's known as NEAT which is the nifty acronym for Non-Exercise Activity Time in the fitness world

MyCosyRaven · 07/10/2024 12:52

Sundaymondaytuesdayetc · 07/10/2024 12:41

Trying to work out whether this is a tongue in cheek remark or an unpleasant jibe at fat lazy northerners.

Well off people are slimmer on average. Areas with high poverty in the UK have more fat people. So if commenter is hanging about places like Chelsea and then travels to Bradford, she will see more slimmer people in London.

MyCosyRaven · 07/10/2024 12:50

On average 15% of your daily movement is exercise, the rest is just moving around. So how much you move around daily matters a lot.

Spectre8 · 07/10/2024 12:47

Icanttakethisanymore · 07/10/2024 12:05

If you are generally very inactive (aside from specifically exercising) then this will mean you are burning fewer calories. WFH is terrible for this - going to the office (for me anyway, given I work in London) means a lot of walking.

💯

I go into the office every day now and noticed huge difference in how much better my fitness levels are and also in terms of losing weight.

Recently my coworkers have had to come in everyday and they have been commenting how tired they are as they used to the commute.. more like not used to moving as much.

Spectre8 · 07/10/2024 12:44

TorroFerney · 07/10/2024 10:10

I agree to a certain extent. I can lose weight more easily on holiday than at home. I do watch what I eat anyway and continue to do so on holiday but I’m also more active and you don’t have a fridge to peruse as you may do at home in moments of boredom. Also generally doing something interesting so less time to think about food.

theres also the thing of doing a run and then rewarding yourself by having a sit down which you are less likely to do if you are just busy and in your feet. Unless you live in a mansion you don’t use many steps getting round a house.

I also agree with you on this. If i know I'm going to a gig and dancing for 4hrs I won't eat a huge meal cos it's uncomfortable to move. Same on holiday.,.if I am going to be on a small hike round a national park I won't eat heavy food, end up with small snacks. So I eat less but move more so back to calories in vs out. If if those calories in aren't healthy ones it's still burned off

Sundaymondaytuesdayetc · 07/10/2024 12:41

amoreoamicizia · 07/10/2024 10:29

I think it's an interesting point, just look at how much slimmer people are in London vs. elsewhere. All that rushing around tubes and walking in the city- just being a Londoner makes people physically active.

Trying to work out whether this is a tongue in cheek remark or an unpleasant jibe at fat lazy northerners.

Disturbia81 · 07/10/2024 12:37

I hope you will get out socialising again OP, hopefully this has taught you you don't need to miss out 😊

DustyMaiden · 07/10/2024 12:23

Definitely agree. I’m home a lot , I wear a Fitbit. I have started dancing whilst doing house work. Stepping side to side whilst cooking.

User1836484645R · 07/10/2024 12:23

soupfiend · 07/10/2024 12:11

Medical issues which contribute to weight gain are ones which slow the metabolism, so unfortuantely you have to eat around that

Same as when people say medication puts weight on, well some medications make you crave food and overeat, I had this with antidepressants, but again I was eating in excess of my needs, it wasn the medication per se

I agree. I gained a lot of weight on the depo injection. It increased my appetite and I gained weight because I was eating more. I swapped to something else but it took several months for the effects to wear off. Thankfully, I am now rapidly dropping back to my pre depo size.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 07/10/2024 12:22

OP - perhaps you should get yourself a Fitbit, but take if off for your “official” exercise, so you can see what your base movement levels are.

MrSeptember · 07/10/2024 12:19

I am overweight and I 100% agree that overall movement is important, even more so as women who are getting older.

As long as I can remember, I have tended to lose a little weight on holidays. I have PCOS so I'm fully aware that I'm also insulin resistant by nature, which makes a huge difference, but I think the fact that we're not really "lie on a beach for 2 weeks" people vs sitting at my desk or on the couch the rest of the time make a big difference to me.

This has been even more noticeable as I got older and I guess metabolism is slowing down, peri etc.

soupfiend · 07/10/2024 12:11

Medical issues which contribute to weight gain are ones which slow the metabolism, so unfortuantely you have to eat around that

Same as when people say medication puts weight on, well some medications make you crave food and overeat, I had this with antidepressants, but again I was eating in excess of my needs, it wasn the medication per se

DoTheDinosaurStomp · 07/10/2024 12:05

HebburnPokemon · 07/10/2024 10:15

ultimately it’s calories in and calories out

There's a lot more to it

What other factors affect it? Some medical issues can contribute to weight gain, yes, but generally if you're eating 1800 calories a day and burning 2000 then you're going to lose weight.

It's almost always a case of calories in v calories out = weight loss.

Icanttakethisanymore · 07/10/2024 12:05

If you are generally very inactive (aside from specifically exercising) then this will mean you are burning fewer calories. WFH is terrible for this - going to the office (for me anyway, given I work in London) means a lot of walking.

MagpiePi · 07/10/2024 12:02

amoreoamicizia · 07/10/2024 11:50

you can’t outrun a bad diet

So they say, but you don't see many fat runners, do you? And if you do they usually lose it...through running.

I run about 20 miles a week plus the occasional half marathon, and I'm definitely not skinny!

DoTheDinosaurStomp · 07/10/2024 12:01

Catrinacarina · 07/10/2024 09:56

this is exactly what i’ve realised. I hadn’t realised how much had dropped off of my
routine activity while I’ve been trying to live like a saint who was dedicated to nothing but the pursuit of fitness.

Even just the time I’d be spending finding a nice outfit for dinner with my friends, walking to the bus stop or going round the shops with my sister, is now time I’m usually just sitting at my desk or going to bed early to feel fresh for my morning run. And therefore time i’m really inactive.

Not saying this is the answer to weight loss of course. I eat very healthy and I know it’s a massive component. But it just found it really interesting that our every day movement and activity is also important and is probably one of the reasons I’m not getting as fit as I want to be.

Edited

Oh absolutely, what you eat is by far the biggest component. I was doing three sessions a week with my PT (1 hour weights per session), 8-10k steps every day and 3 half hour cardio sessions a week. However I was still putting on weight due to the fact that I was still eating utter rubbish, combined with a nightly snack of a family sized pack of crisps and bar of chocolate.

Now, I calorie count (2000 calories a day which is still a lot but way less than my 3000+) and my weekly 3 PT sessions, 3 x 30 mins cardio and 10k steps daily and the weight is slowly but surely dropping off.

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