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Am I the worst MIL?

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TodayandThursday · 07/10/2024 06:04

My DS, has been married for 7 years to a lovely lady. She and I get on well enough, go out for meals and evenings out 2-3 times a year just the 2 of us.

She's great for my son and they seem to adore each other. My son is hard work and she's amazing what she puts up with. I mean nothing bad, but he's disorganised and I'm pretty sure she does all the life admin.

Anyway nothing to do with me as long as they're happy, which they seem to be! They've invited me on holiday with them before so we all definitely get on well.

I've read the MIL threads on here and have listened and learned :)

Anyway I've given you all this boring stuff to show there is no awful backstory.

Right so here's my AIBU. I expect to get my ass handed to me on a plate but here goes.

AIBU to not go to my son's birthday meal.His lovely wife has invited me out to a meal to celebrate my son's birthday, BUT all her family will be there too.

I have nothing against her family they're lovely sweet people, but just not my "cup of tea". I really don't want to go.

I'll have to travel 3 hours there and back, pay money I don't have, for a meal I don't want to sit with 10 people (not including son and DIL) who I'd have to make boring small talk with.

As you can probably tell I'm post menopausal and making boring small talk is my worst nightmare.

I'd rather just have a meal another day with DIL and son. To be honest I'd rather have meal with just me and son, but that will never happen.

So am I being unreasonable not to go?

  • yes totally unreasonable, suck it up, it's only once a year.
  • no not unreasonable, make your excuses and arrange another meal with your son and DIL.
OP posts:
rookiemere · 07/10/2024 13:06

With your update OP, I think the best thing is to do whatever you can do with the best grace.
If you decide not to go, then consider wording it like this "It's so kind of you to invite me along, but I hope you don't mind if I don't come as I am not the best with big groups, so let me take DS and you out for lunch next time I come through."

Be careful though, if it's a big family group who lives close and just you on your DSs side, this may be how it's going to be going forward. For everyone's sake, but mostly your own, it might be worth going along with an open mind and trying to get to know people.

mrlistersgelfbride · 07/10/2024 13:02

In your position, I'd go. Suck up the conversation from the dotty aunt, smile and try to build on your relationship with your son and DIL.
What's the worst that can happen? You'll have wasted 6 hours of your life trying to be involved in your son's birthday celebrations.
If money is an issue, can you talk to your son and DIL? Or borrow some? I'd rather spend my last £50 on seeing my child than anything else.
I'm sure they'd rather see you than not.
Surely better than be at home ruminating about what's going on....although you say you have plenty in your life. But this is important, isn't it?
Sometimes you have to do things for the greater good.
However, it's up to you.

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/10/2024 12:59

I disagree. Love our SIL but his family aren’t ours.

DiamondGoldandSilver · 07/10/2024 12:58

@MrsSkylerWhite yes they are family, through marriage. I would class them as extended family. They are all immediate family to the OP’s son and the dinner is for him and his family.

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/10/2024 12:55

The other guests aren’t OP’s family.

DiamondGoldandSilver · 07/10/2024 12:46

I think it would be good for you to go. You will probably have a lovely time and it is good for families to spend time together. Do you think social anxiety could be driving this? If so, I would do my best to overcome those feelings because declining invitations can become a habit, and then socialising becomes much harder.

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/10/2024 12:45

I wouldn’t go either. Sounds awful.

LeCygneNoir · 07/10/2024 12:44

I’m a bit confused why you’re approaching this as a MIL issue, when it’s a mum issue.

scepticaldil · 07/10/2024 12:36

Perhaps a little irrelevant but just wondering why you can't see your son alone?
As in, what would happen if you text your son saying "do you fancy having dinner next Saturday, just us 2?" And if any questions asked you can always say you'd like 1-on-1 time with your child.

Laiste · 07/10/2024 12:35

I only have DDs, but 2 of them have other halves and i'm trying to put myself in your position.

If one of my DD's husbands had organised a meal for DD's birthday - and invited me and a big group of his family - would i go?

hmm

First i'm wondering - how come there isn't more on your side OP? How come just you and a big group of them? Are you an only child? Is your son an only? Has he no grandparents?

Secondly i'm thinking - how will a 'big birthday meal for the whole family' look if his mum doesn't turn up ? Bit sad.

I think i'd go.

I don't particularly like the parents of one of my DDs husbands, but I'd drive an hour and a half to show my face at my own DDs birthday meal.

Lastly - is it weird that he doesn't want to meet you alone? I don't know. My DH wouldn't want to meet his mum alone for a meal either. He loves her but he'd like us to go as a couple as a) travelling companion and b) his mum can talk the hind legs off a donkey and he goes off into a dream😂

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 07/10/2024 12:32

The travel alone would be enough reason to say no if you feel you need a reason. I do think though if you can see SIL one to one you should be able to see your son one to one too. Personally I would have been quite happy for my then DH to sometimes see his parents just on his own. If I knew you lived that far away I certainly wouldn't be questioning you as a mother for not coming to dinner. No reason you can't celebrate at a different time, its a birthday not a wedding or you meeting their baby for the first time.

Commonsenseisnotsocommon · 07/10/2024 12:31

The ironic part is your poor dil may well think that you are not her cup of tea either but has to tolerate you for the sake of her dh... think about it.

Daniki · 07/10/2024 12:24

I think the drive alone makes you definitely not unreasonable! Just say you will happily organise something with just yourselves at a date and place closer to you, I doubt she will mind

TorroFerney · 07/10/2024 12:18

I think it's a bit poor to not go to your son's birthday celebration to be honest. If the in laws were awful and rude and mean then 100% don't go but if they are just not your type then I think once a year some effort is required. I do have a mother that makes very little effort though and I do all the running which will be clouding my judgment of course!

It's interesting that you say am I the worst MIL - this is about you as a mother not going to your sons birthday celebration not you as a MIL as it's not your DIL's birthday I would suggest so it's an odd title. If i was one of the party who did go and was judging you for not turning up I would judge you as a mother not MIL.

berksandbeyond · 07/10/2024 12:16

Don’t go if you don’t want to, but then don’t come on here crying about how the (future) grandkids are so much closer to the other set of grandparents

Lifestooshort71 · 07/10/2024 12:03

Perhaps the 'pleasant enough lady' isn't actually bothered and has invited you because she loves your son and wants to make him happy?

Savingthehedgehogs · 07/10/2024 10:59

TodayandThursday · 07/10/2024 10:38

I assure you there is no back story and I'm definitely not being passive aggressive. If I did go I'd be chatty, happy and faking interest when listening her dotty Aunt talk about next door neighbour's niece, and smiling and interacting with various nieces and nephews, that aren't mine.

No I hold no grudge with DIL at all, she's a pleasant enough lady and she makes my son happy. Win win.

She doesn't, as such, facilitate my meeting my son, but if I suggest meeting he says he has to check with DIL first. Basically to see if they have anything else on. My son and I text regularly and talk on the phone regularly too.

I think some posters are reading too much into my OP. There's nothing to unpick! I work full-time have a busy and fulfilling social life, play my sport most weekends.

So I'm not some lonely old woman.

All I wanted to know was if I was unreasonable not to go to a birthday meal.

As for finding the term man child offensive, tough! He is!

He wasn't brought up that way but he's happy, she's happy, so fuck all to do with me how they live as husband and wife! It works for them.

It looks so far to be 50/50 on whether to go or not.

That was a prickly defensive post op. Why do you think your son avoids doing 121 meet ups with you? It’s easy enough to arrange, do you suspect your dil prevents them?

A good way to ruin the perfectly civil relationship you have with them, is to start to withdraw and cease making an effort for special occasions. It’s your son’s birthday, most mothers would love to be invited to a celebratory dinner.

Instead it is coming across that you can’t be bothered with it. A sullen indifference even. This dinner is not about you though, it’s about your son. How do you think he will feel?

If you can’t be bothered to see him on his birthday, despite being invited, then I think speaks volumes, at least to me, what kind of mother you are.

Your son is likely to feel hurt, your dil is likely to feel somewhat rejected as it was her idea to gather both sides of the family.

We are of similar age I suspect, so I don’t buy the time of life line, you are making a rod for your own back with this one, and you can’t be surprised if they too decide to stop their own efforts and your invitations dry up altogether.

Your last post is coming over as bitter, resentful and difficult, I would suggest you explore your feelings more carefully or you may ruin your closest relationships entirely.

I suspect you had an adoring son, as a single parent, and now he has moved on with his life it has left you with some feelings of loss op. Really it would benefit you to really think about why you don’t want to go, without judgement, and look at why you feel like you do.

TodayandThursday · 07/10/2024 10:38

I assure you there is no back story and I'm definitely not being passive aggressive. If I did go I'd be chatty, happy and faking interest when listening her dotty Aunt talk about next door neighbour's niece, and smiling and interacting with various nieces and nephews, that aren't mine.

No I hold no grudge with DIL at all, she's a pleasant enough lady and she makes my son happy. Win win.

She doesn't, as such, facilitate my meeting my son, but if I suggest meeting he says he has to check with DIL first. Basically to see if they have anything else on. My son and I text regularly and talk on the phone regularly too.

I think some posters are reading too much into my OP. There's nothing to unpick! I work full-time have a busy and fulfilling social life, play my sport most weekends.

So I'm not some lonely old woman.

All I wanted to know was if I was unreasonable not to go to a birthday meal.

As for finding the term man child offensive, tough! He is!

He wasn't brought up that way but he's happy, she's happy, so fuck all to do with me how they live as husband and wife! It works for them.

It looks so far to be 50/50 on whether to go or not.

OP posts:
naemates · 07/10/2024 10:18

I would:

Say to be honest, if I'm making the trip
I want to get quality time with two of you, would it be ok if we went out another time (my treat)?

And separately, maybe in a couple of months:

DiL, you know I love spending time with you both, but for a one off (for Christmas?), would you be able to set up a meal with just me and DS? I know you shouldn't have to, but you know what he's like and it won't happen otherwise

You sound like you two have a good relationship.

Snugglemonkey · 07/10/2024 10:14

I also agree with @Savingthehedgehogs.

It is your son's birthday. It is worth making the effort for.

rainbowstardrops · 07/10/2024 09:09

It's your son's birthday and your DIL has arranged a nice meal that includes you, so I'd go to be honest. It's once a year!
It sounds as if your DIL does an awful lot for your son and you'd probably see even less of him if it wasn't for her arranging everything.

MaggieBsBoat · 07/10/2024 08:48

As so many others have said I believe @Savingthehedgehogs has it.

There is so much going on underneath this. However I am not sure of your willingness to think about that.
In short your DIL is your nexus to your son and it’s important you make an effort for a few hours. I doubt they are card-carrying fascists or violent criminals or some thing reasonable as a get-out. Not your cup of tea is NOT.

DniHnly · 07/10/2024 08:35

Savingthehedgehogs · 07/10/2024 07:07

I see this differently op.

i am sorry to say you would probably never see your son at all if it wasn’t for your dil. She is the only one organising anything!

If left to my dh he would never see his mother, ever, he just isn’t bothered don’t ask me why but some people are just like that.

i would consider going, because keeping and maintaining a good relationship with dil is the key to contact with your son. You can sit next to him and enjoy the evening with him, which might be easier if dil is otherwise engaged with her family.

It’s not your dil’s fault your son is hopeless and disorganised. I would be glad to have her, she clearly makes a real effort to see you and spend time with you. It sounds like a lovely celebration for your son, and it will look odd if you are the only one not there, and everyone else is.

It is a few hours. Yes I would go.

Edited

Completely agree with all of this.

zeitweilig · 07/10/2024 08:31

pilates · 07/10/2024 06:11

YANBU
The second option sounds perfectly fine.

I agree.

HoppityBun · 07/10/2024 08:31

I wonder if your histrionic headline, obviously inviting the sought for response that, no, you’re not the worst MIL, might offer some insight into the dynamics here.

Is it really about your DIL?

Would a MN consensus that you’re not the worst MiL justify your feelings to yourself?