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Cutting off MIL...am I in the wrong?

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insomniac1994 · 06/10/2024 19:40

I've decided to cut off contact with my MIL. I just need to know if I've made the right decision.

My fiance (her son) and I have been together for 2 years and a 9 month old baby. Throughout pregnancy and the first few weeks of having my baby my MIL was amazing and we really got on well. However the last few months she hasn't made any effort to see her granddaughter or even asked how she is. I post a lot updates about her on social media for family and she never interacts or let's me know how proud she is of her granddaughter. The last time she contacted me it was to criticise my daughters sleeping arrangement. I'd taken a photo of my baby sitting in her crib, and she criticised we had the cot next to plug sockets. I told her they'd be covered and I couldn't place the cot anywhere else due to the layout of the bedroom.

Now it's been the end of my maternity leave and the only childcare I can get is with nursery. However I can't get funded hours until Jan so my fiance and I have to pay for her nursery fees. My fiance and I were worried as we just can't afford the fees. He spoke to his Mum about it and she agreed to pay for her nursery and we'd pay her back.

I sent a message to my MIL and I said I'd talk to her closer to the time when invoices are due to arrange payments, paying her back etc. She agreed. I then messaged her closer to the time for the invoice and she said she's currently on holiday for the next few weeks so not to contact her. I again said it's about our daughters nursery fees. Again she reminded me not to message her because she has no signal and was very passive aggressive.

I then told my fiance about what had happened and he was very angry. His Mum has a habit of wanting to help but then taking it back.

We both knew our babies nursery fee would be due so my fiance suggested we asked for help from his Dad instead. I agreed there was no other option so I agreed. His Dad said he'd pay and we would pay him back in due course.

I then get a passive aggressive message from MIL a few days later asking why another family member is telling her my fiances Dad is paying for her nursery now and again told me off for contacting her while she's on holiday. I said I hadn't spoken to anyone else about it and I wasn't contacting her because she was on holiday and I was planning on talking to her when she got back.

I then got a nasty message back saying she will no longer help me with my daughter again and to not to play games she doesn't want to be involved in what we are planning. Even when my fiance (her own son!) tried to explain it again she accused him as well of playing games.

I've tried my best to bite my tongue to keep up a goodish relationship for the sake of my daughter but this is the final nail in the coffin. I was in tears yesterday and I told my fiance I had enough and I want to be no contact now I won't stop MIL from seeing my daughter but I won't be around when she is at our home.

I feel bad for doing this but it's just not been good for months. Am I in the wrong for this?

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CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 23:09

I admit I was rolling my eyes at the first half of the post but changed my mind for the second half.

YANBU, OP. She said she'd pay but then made herself unavailable at the time payment was needed. Your DP decided to get help from one of his other relatives instead, after MIL left you in the lurch, and for some reason she's sending nasty messages to you?

If she's never going to help her granddaughter again, why would you want her in your child's life?

Aavalon57 · 06/10/2024 23:08

I do not think you are being unreasonable, either. When it comes to childcare, you can't mess about. You relied on a promise that was then reneged. Be mindful that on MN, people get really triggered when someone gets, or has been offered, child care support. It seems not accepting or expecting any help whatsoever is a hill that many Mum MNs are willing to die on. Don't let them get to you. You will have noticed that most of the responses have been about having a go at you (even suggesting you got pregnant too soon!!) rather than actually answering the question you asked. I babysat my nephew one day a week when he was little for over a year and it helped his parents enormously while giving me some amazing one to one time with him. But this was something that I had promised and had to stick to. Your MIL promised to help and then changed the goal posts then told you not to contact her. Meanwhile, you had to find a solution and you did.

Maddy70 · 06/10/2024 23:04

You mil has done nothing wrong. You sound very immature and frankly unreasonable x

noworklifebalance · 06/10/2024 22:58

Not sure why are getting a hard time - YANBU @insomniac1994

Your MIL offered to look after your child
Then months later reneged on that so you are scrambling round for a nursery place
She offered to pay some/all of the fees
When the invoices are due she is away and asks you (repeatedly) not to contact her
Now you are stuck, as plan A and now B are not viable
So you ask hour Dad or FIL (sorry not sure which) and now your MIL is mad?

Fuck that.

If she doesn’t want to look after your child or pay nursery fees then that is totally fine but it’s not ok to promise you these, let you make plans based on these promises, leave you high and dry and then, to top it off, have the gall to be pissed off with you.

Worksadness · 06/10/2024 22:49

How long are you planning to go no contact for OP? It sounds awfully difficult for all concerned. Kindly - be careful you’re not cutting off your nose to spite your face, as they say. I did that once, many years ago (close friend, not MIL, but a child was involved): felt like the right thing at the time. I regret it now, have done for years, but it’s too late now to change anything.

insomniac1994 · 06/10/2024 22:46

Busywithsomething · 06/10/2024 21:06

Have you asked anyone in your own family for financial help? I think you should consider other means of paying these bills and not rely on your partner's family. I get that you first thought she'd help and now she's backing out but please try not to take this to heart. You don't know what her financial position is. All the best.

I agree with you. What a lot of people have assumed is I've relied on her for money. I've never asked for money she's always offered. And then withdrawing communication puts me in a difficult position. Unfortunately my family live hours away so I can't get help from when and financially I can't because we do come from a working class background and my fiances family is middle class.

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insomniac1994 · 06/10/2024 22:43

Nastyaa · 06/10/2024 20:57

I disagree with every single poster saying the OP is being unreasonable. You all act like you had everything planned down to a T when you all had your babies!! Jesus Christ, the MIL shouldn't have offered to help and then retracted it without even communicating . She went off on holiday and told OP not to contact her? Who does that?
As for the social media thing - again why are we all pretending it wouldn't bother us in the slightest? There was a very similar post on here a few days ago, but no mention of money and everyone was supportive to the OP. As soon as money is involved everyone changes their tune.

OP- ignore the judgemental twats who have apparently planned everything from the moment of conception to the child's graduation. We all know every single person on this post is winging it, made some error of judgement or a miscalculation. I can also bet 80% of people on MN do not like their MIL.

I literally can't with the comments on here, disgusting.

Thank you for that! It's really made me feel better. I've become a fantastic Mum to my daughter and people forget it's a financial struggle for everyone being parents in 2024

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Fizzadora · 06/10/2024 21:50

Well yes, you are in the wrong OP. I think you are justified in feeling pissed off with your MIL's totally unreasonable behaviour but you really don't need to 'Cut her off'.
Just keep a healthy distance. That's all you need to do.

Redmat · 06/10/2024 21:44

It would often be nice to hear the other side on these threads. It sounds as though you may have been pressurising and assuming too much from your mother in law and she's stepped back a bit.

AutumnTimeForCosy24 · 06/10/2024 21:42

Busywithsomething · 06/10/2024 21:06

Have you asked anyone in your own family for financial help? I think you should consider other means of paying these bills and not rely on your partner's family. I get that you first thought she'd help and now she's backing out but please try not to take this to heart. You don't know what her financial position is. All the best.

the op didn't 'think' she'd help, the MIL TOLD HER she'd look after the baby, then changed her mind, then offered to LEND them the money, but didn't want to talk about it AND was rude & nasty to the OP & put them under pressure to find the money for the nursery bill, then spat the dummy when she found out FIL lent them the money. Frankly it's none of her fucking business who lent them the money.

AnneLovesGilbert · 06/10/2024 21:37

You should have got a credit card or taken out a loan if you couldn’t afford nursery. You got pregnant before she said she’d do childcare for you for free. You’re both adults, this stuff is your responsibility and yours alone. You seem to suggest it’s anyone else’s job to pay your bills, you don’t care who buy someone’s got to. No. Grow up.

As for “safe space”, don’t be daft. This a is popular international forum with millions of users. You post here for advice you accept the advice. Having produced a child doesn’t make you immune to criticism when you behave badly.

I’m afraid your response to the replies you’ve had is very childish. No wonder MIL wants to create some distance.

flyingfar · 06/10/2024 21:24

Just try and sort it out. This flouncing off because someone isn’t doing what you want and when you want is just so childish. You are going to be with your partner for a long time, hopefully, and your child is still her grandchild. Why would you damage future relationships for your partner and child over this. Walking away when there is a hurdle is really immature.

lateatwork · 06/10/2024 21:23

I think yabu over the bill. And if your knee jerk reaction is to go NC with MIL- I think that's up to you- but rather extreme.

It's probably best that MIL isn't looking after your child- given the current relationship

NewName24 · 06/10/2024 21:21

Of course YABU, and over dramatic.
I agree with the pp who said you are coming across as very immature.

It is yours and your fiancé's baby, and it is for you two to sort out how you are planning to afford life. It isn't anyone else's responsibility to cover for the fact you became pregnant very early on in your relationship.

The last time she contacted me it was to criticise my daughters sleeping arrangement. I'd taken a photo of my baby sitting in her crib, and she criticised we had the cot next to plug sockets.

Where you perceive 'criticism', many would read that as 'concern for her grandchild' in case you hadn't spotted it.

Cutting all contact is so dramatic, and is just going to leave your little one with one less loving Grandparent.

angrylizard · 06/10/2024 21:20

insomniac1994 · 06/10/2024 20:16

For a place that's meant to be a safe space for Mum's this is the nastiest judgemental space I have ever been in. So much for Mum's supporting Mum's hey?

You asked AIBU and are annoyed that people are saying yes? Why ask?

Hoppinggreen · 06/10/2024 21:19

insomniac1994 · 06/10/2024 20:16

For a place that's meant to be a safe space for Mum's this is the nastiest judgemental space I have ever been in. So much for Mum's supporting Mum's hey?

If you want people to agree with you unconditionally then you are in the wrong place.
You have no right to expect somone else to pay for your childcare and then chuck a tantrum when they don't cough up quickly enough.

Sharptonguedwoman · 06/10/2024 21:17

Against the trend I think this has been really difficult and I would have taken similar action tbh. I'm not sure about cutting off contact but I would approach MIL with zero expectations, then everything positive is a plus. People often make rash promises they then break. Hang on in there, OP but probably in the future, you need a better plan than grandparent help. Are your parents able to help at all?

SALaw · 06/10/2024 21:14

Leave it to your fiance to sort this. The communication should have been between him and his mum in the first place.

RitaFires · 06/10/2024 21:12

Let your partner take the lead in communicating with his Mum. Take a step back to avoid making a knee jerk decision.

Is the biggest issue that you didn't know her well enough to realise you can't take her offers at face value?

My partner has a family member that loves making offers because it makes them feel generous but never follows through so we just ignore their nonsense because it's not sincere. I would suggest taking a similar approach with your MIL. Your partner is probably well aware of what she's like.

DaniMontyRae · 06/10/2024 21:10

insomniac1994 · 06/10/2024 20:52

MIL offered to take care of her when I went back to work. That was a solid plan for months. Then she took it back after baby was born and I had to resort to a nursery instead.

But you can't have known that your MIL would offer childcare. So basically you and your partner conceived a child with zero plan for how you cope financially.

Busywithsomething · 06/10/2024 21:06

Have you asked anyone in your own family for financial help? I think you should consider other means of paying these bills and not rely on your partner's family. I get that you first thought she'd help and now she's backing out but please try not to take this to heart. You don't know what her financial position is. All the best.

Sapphire387 · 06/10/2024 21:04

You're getting a really rough ride here, OP.

I actually agree with you- she shouldn't have been making promises to you that she then doesn't keep. It's really not on to offer childcare and then withdraw it and then offer to lend money for nursery fees but refuse to talk about it when the money is due.

I know people are saying 'your baby, your responsibility', and that is true. But plenty of people get help from the grandparents. And the key here is - she offered to help - twice - and then went back on it.

Nastyaa · 06/10/2024 20:57

I disagree with every single poster saying the OP is being unreasonable. You all act like you had everything planned down to a T when you all had your babies!! Jesus Christ, the MIL shouldn't have offered to help and then retracted it without even communicating . She went off on holiday and told OP not to contact her? Who does that?
As for the social media thing - again why are we all pretending it wouldn't bother us in the slightest? There was a very similar post on here a few days ago, but no mention of money and everyone was supportive to the OP. As soon as money is involved everyone changes their tune.

OP- ignore the judgemental twats who have apparently planned everything from the moment of conception to the child's graduation. We all know every single person on this post is winging it, made some error of judgement or a miscalculation. I can also bet 80% of people on MN do not like their MIL.

I literally can't with the comments on here, disgusting.

insomniac1994 · 06/10/2024 20:52

Newwaves · 06/10/2024 20:40

Why have you had a baby if you can’t afford the nursery fees. It’s very irresponsible of you. It’s not up to your MIL to pay your nursery fees.

MIL offered to take care of her when I went back to work. That was a solid plan for months. Then she took it back after baby was born and I had to resort to a nursery instead.

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Pleasesendhelporwine · 06/10/2024 20:48

To be fair I can see why you’re upset. You’re not expecting her to pay the fees- you’ve asked to borrow the money as she has it and you’ll pay her back. I’m guessing you’ve e got an invoice to pay and she agreed to pay it- and now you’ve messaged to ask and she’s refusing to engage so you’ve had to go elsewhere?

Yeah I would be cross, she’s left you exposed. If she hasn’t agreed you could have found another way to pay or found alternative childcare/ delay going back to work until the few hours kick in.