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Cutting off MIL...am I in the wrong?

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insomniac1994 · 06/10/2024 19:40

I've decided to cut off contact with my MIL. I just need to know if I've made the right decision.

My fiance (her son) and I have been together for 2 years and a 9 month old baby. Throughout pregnancy and the first few weeks of having my baby my MIL was amazing and we really got on well. However the last few months she hasn't made any effort to see her granddaughter or even asked how she is. I post a lot updates about her on social media for family and she never interacts or let's me know how proud she is of her granddaughter. The last time she contacted me it was to criticise my daughters sleeping arrangement. I'd taken a photo of my baby sitting in her crib, and she criticised we had the cot next to plug sockets. I told her they'd be covered and I couldn't place the cot anywhere else due to the layout of the bedroom.

Now it's been the end of my maternity leave and the only childcare I can get is with nursery. However I can't get funded hours until Jan so my fiance and I have to pay for her nursery fees. My fiance and I were worried as we just can't afford the fees. He spoke to his Mum about it and she agreed to pay for her nursery and we'd pay her back.

I sent a message to my MIL and I said I'd talk to her closer to the time when invoices are due to arrange payments, paying her back etc. She agreed. I then messaged her closer to the time for the invoice and she said she's currently on holiday for the next few weeks so not to contact her. I again said it's about our daughters nursery fees. Again she reminded me not to message her because she has no signal and was very passive aggressive.

I then told my fiance about what had happened and he was very angry. His Mum has a habit of wanting to help but then taking it back.

We both knew our babies nursery fee would be due so my fiance suggested we asked for help from his Dad instead. I agreed there was no other option so I agreed. His Dad said he'd pay and we would pay him back in due course.

I then get a passive aggressive message from MIL a few days later asking why another family member is telling her my fiances Dad is paying for her nursery now and again told me off for contacting her while she's on holiday. I said I hadn't spoken to anyone else about it and I wasn't contacting her because she was on holiday and I was planning on talking to her when she got back.

I then got a nasty message back saying she will no longer help me with my daughter again and to not to play games she doesn't want to be involved in what we are planning. Even when my fiance (her own son!) tried to explain it again she accused him as well of playing games.

I've tried my best to bite my tongue to keep up a goodish relationship for the sake of my daughter but this is the final nail in the coffin. I was in tears yesterday and I told my fiance I had enough and I want to be no contact now I won't stop MIL from seeing my daughter but I won't be around when she is at our home.

I feel bad for doing this but it's just not been good for months. Am I in the wrong for this?

OP posts:
Alli88 · 07/10/2024 08:48

insomniac1994 · 06/10/2024 20:16

For a place that's meant to be a safe space for Mum's this is the nastiest judgemental space I have ever been in. So much for Mum's supporting Mum's hey?

Just because people don't agree with you doesn't mean they're wrong. I've seen lots of nasty and judgemental things on mumsnet but the replies are largely neither.

This post 👆 illustrates everything people need to know if this is how you react when things don't go your way. Look at yourself and your reactions and conduct before judging others.

Theunamedcat · 07/10/2024 08:33

She shouldn't have offered if she was going to fuck about I might not go no contact over this but I would certainly dial down contact and definitely not rely on her again

Fwiw I had the same with ex mother promised to help me buy a pram I said let me know a budget because I have a specific one in mind (I have back issues so there was a type I didn't want because it aggravated my back) they bought me one they liked (the wrong one) so I bought my own which made her cry then she wanted to buy him his first cot made a huge fuss over it then when the time came she pulled out the newspaper and showed us some second hand ones WE could buy and we could ask her other son for help getting it home so again I bought my own when it came to babysitting it was the same drama so we stopped that too

we just ignored the grand gestures on the end they were meaningless

buffyajp · 07/10/2024 08:27

helenv679 · 06/10/2024 20:23

I don't think you're being unreasonable. She shouldn't have offered if can't pay on time, obviously you'd have to chase her and would take someone else's offer.

Only thing I'm wondering is why you're dealing with it and not your partner if his mum?

Sorry you've met such judgement on this - AIBU is worst thread for that!

Don’t apologise on behalf of other people. She asked for opinions and got them. That’s not judgement. Don’t ask a question if your not prepared to hear something you don’t like.

narns · 07/10/2024 08:19

Lanzarotelady · 07/10/2024 08:00

I would like to hear MIL side of this

You sound very young and immature and using your child as a weapon because you can't get your own way, a bit sad and pathetic really.
Maybe you and your partner should grow up an little and start taking responsibility for your child.

How is OP using her child as a weapon? She's said that if she goes no contact she wouldn't stop contact with her child.

If anything, MIL is using the child as a weapon by saying that she will not ever help with the child again, because she has thrown a tantrum over OP getting help from another family member after MIL offered to help and then later refused (twice).

DrummingMousWife · 07/10/2024 08:08

I don’t think you are being unreasonable not to see her. She is not being kind, she is being passive aggressive. It sounds like there is more at play here, and I suspect she is jealous of you and the new baby. She might not know how to manage these feelings and they are coming across unpleasant. Avoid her now except for pleasantries and let the dust settle.

Trambopoline · 07/10/2024 08:01

She shouldn’t have offered to help with childcare then fees if she wasn’t ready to do it. I’d just accept that this isnt the type of support you can rely on her for, with lower/different expectations it will be easier to have a positive relationship with her. No contact is extreme, she’s someone you’re going to have in your life in one way or another for a long time.

Lanzarotelady · 07/10/2024 08:00

I would like to hear MIL side of this

You sound very young and immature and using your child as a weapon because you can't get your own way, a bit sad and pathetic really.
Maybe you and your partner should grow up an little and start taking responsibility for your child.

Lifestooshort71 · 07/10/2024 07:54

With hindsight, perhaps her son should have been dealing with his mother over this? She has been very flaky tbh and I can see why you're upset over it. I'd get my partner to accept FIL's offer to pay (just stay out of it!) and then leave the dust to settle, let him rebuild a relationship with his mum and see where you fit in. Going NC is a bit immature and it's a hard position to come back from. Good luck.

Savingthehedgehogs · 07/10/2024 07:42

Op, cutting her off is just too extreme. Childcare and nursery fees are something you should have planned for, I would be exasperated too. You sound very young, and maybe out of your depth a little.

Crowbat · 07/10/2024 07:37

The only group usually to use the term 'mummies' is the misogynistic posters who use it to describe grown men who continue to have a relationship with their parents.
What is disappointing on this thread is the number of posters who are both ageist and sexist. The poster who complains about grandmothers and MILS posting. Do take it up with MN. They make it clear that MN is for all parents. There is no age limit .
New mothers are statistically much older. There are more babies born to the over forties than to women in their early twenties. I was watching the new David Mitchell drama,Ludwig. He and his wife ( Victoria Coren) have just had their first and second babies over the last two years at 50;and 52. Parents are older perhaps because it takes them longer to be financially secure enough to have children.
It is a shame that some posters use personal attacks on other posters and on specific groups instead of offering genuine advice.

Firenzeflower · 07/10/2024 07:20

It all seems a bit dramatic.
I'm not sure id be happy if the oy time you contacted me was to ask for money. Also posting all over social media rather than sending her pictures may be a bit tacky.

Relationships need to be cultivated not just expected.

Also if you can't afford nursery fees you can't afford to get married so maybe he's just your boyfriend.

dreamer24 · 07/10/2024 07:15

Be happy you have the luxury to pay for your child's nursery fees without help. Not all of us are privileged in that way

I wouldn't have had my kids if i couldn't afford to do so. It's really that simple. Never, ever rely financially on anyone other than the child's parents to pay for them. Just my view.

MyUmberSeal · 07/10/2024 06:58

Growlybear83 · 07/10/2024 02:09

I would imagine that most people on this forum are older than 10 - why on earth are you referring to them as 'mummies'?

I actually shuddered when I read the word ‘mummies’ 🤣. Especially from someone old enough to be a grandmother. Yuk.

Tourmalines · 07/10/2024 06:41

Viviennemary · 06/10/2024 23:23

You are a cheeky pair. Stand on your own two feet and stop expecting handouts from a person you don't even like very much. And she isn't your mil as you aren't married to her son. More like she should have nothing to do with you. A person who pesters her for money when she is on holiday,

Yep .

teatoast8 · 07/10/2024 06:40

YANBU

ttcat37 · 07/10/2024 06:33

Oh dear, the entitled grandma and MIL contingent have piled on already.
@insomniac1994 Of course YANBU. She can’t make promises to you which you rely on and plan around and then refuse to arrange with you at the 11th hour. She certainly has no right to get pissy with you for making alternative arrangements. She sounds thoroughly unpleasant. I wouldn’t want anything to do with her either.

Ohhbaby · 07/10/2024 06:33

insomniac1994 · 06/10/2024 20:16

For a place that's meant to be a safe space for Mum's this is the nastiest judgemental space I have ever been in. So much for Mum's supporting Mum's hey?

Heh, you asked for opinions.
Now we are giving them, we're not supporting you??
What do you what, honest opinions or just us saying, yay go you!

Yeah I think you're in the wrong. I thi k this whole ' cutting contact' is a trend that's just immature.
She isn't abusive, she's on holiday and your just being shirty because she's not giving you money.

It's really sad how kids grow up without extended family because their parents are too immature to have conversations.

CookieMonster28 · 07/10/2024 06:28

Don't think you're being unreasonable at all or immature (don't know why other posters have said that ... Bizarre)

I'd be the exact same. She sounds like a nightmare. Why would you want someone in your life giving you empty promises, exhausting!

CandyLeBonBon · 07/10/2024 06:25

Hmm. I'd like to hear MIL's version tbh. You do sound a bit immature and entitled.

Peakyblinder18 · 07/10/2024 06:07

Which part of mil is on holiday don't you understand? Yet you continue to send begging messages.
And then switch to someone else.
Your problem sorting your childcare is only yours.

stayathomer · 07/10/2024 05:58

I’d guess you were panicking (as we all would be) about the bills and so wanted her to sort it as she said she would but from her point of view you going to his dad probably seemed insulting but saying that I think if she said she was going to help she should have either helped or said ‘look actually I promised too much’. Nc seems very over the top to ge honest thought, people argue, people are passive aggressive at times, or don’t step up when they should etc etc, cutting her out for those reasons seems like too much

paisley256 · 07/10/2024 05:52

Honestly op you would've been better putting this into Relationships instead of AIBU. People often just pile in with aggressive attacks just for the sake of it on AIBU.

Try not to let the nasty comments get to you, they are designed to hurt you, nothing else.

I think your MIL has behaved terribly. Going forward I wouldn't necessarily cut contact just yet though. I'd let your partner deal with her and see how that works out. Be pleasant if you see her but I wouldn't trust any further offers of help she can't be trusted can she.

You're doing ok op and sound like a lovely mum.

insomniac1994 · 07/10/2024 02:51

I will say people have commented and gave sound advice. I shouldn't have put trust into someone who has took back promises. It was my fault to believe it. I understand.

What I'm not tolerating is some of you nasty individuals who have made disparaging comments about how I am as a mother. Making out I should have been more prepared financially etc and because I couldn't automatically pay for nursery that it makes me an awful Mum. Be happy you have the luxury to pay for your child's nursery fees without help. Not all of us are privileged in that way. But I am not going to tolerate being called a bad Mum. I worked above and beyond during pregnancy and saved up money for my little girl. Every penny I have goes to her! Some of the remarks I've received is disgusting.

OP posts:
Commonsense22 · 07/10/2024 02:15

I completely disagree with the majority of posters on this thread.
Your MIL should never have offered childcare then taken ir back.
She then should never have offered financial help and effectively rescinded the offer (the no talking on holiday is rubbish).

She sounds manipulative and horrible.

But your partner should have been the one to contact her, rather than you To ask. It might have avoided her attitude.

Of course ideally you'd be financially independent but so many mumsnetters criticising you had family help for uni fees, house deposits and goodness knows what else. They also would have been in a pickle if half way through their course their dad stopped paying.

Growlybear83 · 07/10/2024 02:09

Icanthinkformyselfthanks · 06/10/2024 23:25

@insomniac1994 , I’m absolutely delighted that on this forum where mostly sympathy lies with the mummies (understandably ) those mummies have resoundingly told you that you are unreasonable. I’m a grandmother and mother in law and I have an absolutely glorious relationship with my DsIL. I already feel blessed with what beautiful, funny, caring and all round fabulous wives my boys picked. I’m so, so grateful that they didn’t pick someone like you.

I would imagine that most people on this forum are older than 10 - why on earth are you referring to them as 'mummies'?