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DH won’t pay into children’s savings accounts

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CocoMaroon · 06/10/2024 14:51

DH and I have separate bank accounts, I work part time on a low wage and DH is a much higher earner (£47k) When our children were born I opened savings accounts for them and make sure I put in any left over birthday money, Christmas money etc and I pay in an amount each month out of my own account.

Since they were born I have asked my husband to set up a standing order from his account (alongside mine) and he’s not bothered. Our oldest is now 13 and when I think of how much more could be in his account if DH had been paying money in.

He says he never gets around to it, never has the chance, I’ve begged him, nagged him, walked him to their bank so he could set it up, he took the details promising he would do it that evening. That was a year ago 😡

My parents have recently set up an account for our children and were telling us about it yesterday- I said to DH that I wished he would pay something into their accounts. He walked up to me later and whispered in my ear “do not embarrass me like that again”

AIBU??

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Irridescantshimmmer · 06/10/2024 15:59

Scrooge has no intentions of putting anything into tour childrens bank accounts, he's as tight as a ducks rear end.

His actions and his words demonstrate this.

Anywherebuthere · 06/10/2024 15:59

YABU
If he is paying for most other things then what's the problem?
YABU to bring it up in front of your parents too if he is uncomfortable with it. How much he pays in to where is non of their business. That should be between you two.

Children can manage without savings accounts, it's not an essential. As long as all their needs are being met. It would be 'nice' for them to have a pot of money but not essential. £47k isn't exactly millions either.

When they are old enough they can get jobs and fill their own savings accounts.

CocoMaroon · 06/10/2024 15:58

peppermintteacup · 06/10/2024 15:55

Then taking a year to get round to it is starting to beggar belief!

Maybe take a Saturday morning or some time when you have hours available or at least a full half an hour available and do it then.

If he's genuine, I don't understand how he can have an excuse if you are sitting right there waiting for him to do it. Make it a point of contention if it's important to you, don't just "live with" it, because that's how it's gone on this long.

An example of how he has good intentions but never gets around to stuff is him buying a new toilet seat as our old one was broken and him promising to put it on “tomorrow”

It sat in the airing cupboard for 5 years 🙈

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Whenindoubthugitout · 06/10/2024 15:58

CocoMaroon · 06/10/2024 15:45

That’s a very good point. I know I squandered my savings when I turned 18! When I think of what I could have done with that money now!

A very good point about how the savings might affect our sons Universal Credit etc, due to his high level of needs he will need lifetime support.

Both savings accounts are in his name.

You squandered the money at 18.

my child squandered hers at 18.
most children I know when given a lump sum at 18 squander it.

so I’m with you DH. I wouldn’t save for children to be given a lump sum or access to thousands at 18. The vast vast majority are not mature enough to spend it wisely

Dery · 06/10/2024 15:57

As a few posters have mentioned, it’s possible to save for your DCs without paying money into an account which they control. It’s too easy for the money to be frittered away in those circumstances.

I have savings accounts for my two DCs but I control them. My DCs also have their own accounts and birthday and Xmas money go into those. But in terms of having money to meet their future needs: those are my savings for them, not savings which they control.

My paternal grandmother had made savings accounts for my sister and me and we had £600 in each of them. That’s a tidy sum now but this was the late 1980s so it was worth even more then. I wasn’t really responsible enough to suddenly have that kind of money and I frittered it away.

Soontobe60 · 06/10/2024 15:57

So you live in a rented property and have a child whose disability means they will need support throughout their life. I suggest that you start saving for a deposit for your own house sharpish as you’d be far better off financially as owners rather than renters in your later years.

babyproblems · 06/10/2024 15:56

Reading all of your posts @CocoMaroon actually you really need to have this conversation about family income. Why oh why oh why are you paying 50% of the rent..!!! For gods sake pool your finances. This is a ridiculous set up for a married couple and he sounds like he doesn’t really want to support you or is resentful in some way. Sit down and have this discussion and reorganise so it is a shared pot for everyone. You are married!!

MrsSunshine2b · 06/10/2024 15:56

YABU.

You've accepted a very unequal financial situation where you work part-time (and take on a majority of the unpaid labour, including the care of his son, which enables him to continue to be successful in his career) and he keeps the money you enable him to earn.

That's your choice, it wouldn't be mine.

He's made it clear he has no intention of saving for your children. He's not procrastinating, it takes about 2 minutes to set up a standing order. He doesn't want to spend his money on that, and considering that you have agreed to a "my money/your money" split, he's entitled to do that.

He doesn't sound like a very nice person to me.

peppermintteacup · 06/10/2024 15:55

Then taking a year to get round to it is starting to beggar belief!

Maybe take a Saturday morning or some time when you have hours available or at least a full half an hour available and do it then.

If he's genuine, I don't understand how he can have an excuse if you are sitting right there waiting for him to do it. Make it a point of contention if it's important to you, don't just "live with" it, because that's how it's gone on this long.

CocoMaroon · 06/10/2024 15:54

WiserOlderElf · 06/10/2024 15:50

If you’re renting I’d be putting any disposable income into saving to buy a house, unless you’re lucky enough to have social housing.

We are in social housing.

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TheDeepLemonHelper · 06/10/2024 15:53

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babyproblems · 06/10/2024 15:52

You need to sit down together and look at the monthly budget. Stop seeing it as his pay and your pay. It’s ALL both of yours’ pay. Pay all income into joint one account. Pay all bills. What is left - decide what to save, what to give equally to both of you to spend as you like. You could put 100£ or whatever depending on what is left into kids accounts each month. Sounds like you don’t have a proper budget to me and the mentality is too individual on both sides. You are married and a family. One pot. Joint priorities. Good luck @CocoMaroon

CocoMaroon · 06/10/2024 15:51

peppermintteacup · 06/10/2024 15:48

Do you think he is pretending he will set up to put you off or do you think he is genuine and just not prioritising it?

If you think he's genuinely pretending he'll do it and has no intention of doing so, then you need to discuss that and get him to tell you directly how he feels about it, one way or another.

Honesty it's important.

If you believe he's just deprioritising it (possible, but seems less likely to me), just allocate a time for it and then at that time, sit there with him while he does it in front of you. Don't take no for an answer.
Refuse other basic interactions with him until it's complete.

I believe he’s honest in his intention to pay into their accounts. He’s just rubbish at actually getting around to doing stuff. He’s a massive procrastinator! Similar about jobs around the house, doing something with the kids, booking stuff etc, it’s always that he will do it “tomorrow”

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WiserOlderElf · 06/10/2024 15:50

coffeesaveslives · 06/10/2024 15:50

If you believe he's just deprioritising it (possible, but seems less likely to me), just allocate a time for it and then at that time, sit there with him while he does it in front of you. Don't take no for an answer. Refuse other basic interactions with him until it's complete.

Err, isn't this abuse? Confused

Absolutely it is.

WiserOlderElf · 06/10/2024 15:50

If you’re renting I’d be putting any disposable income into saving to buy a house, unless you’re lucky enough to have social housing.

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coffeesaveslives · 06/10/2024 15:50

If you believe he's just deprioritising it (possible, but seems less likely to me), just allocate a time for it and then at that time, sit there with him while he does it in front of you. Don't take no for an answer. Refuse other basic interactions with him until it's complete.

Err, isn't this abuse? Confused

NotForMeCheers · 06/10/2024 15:50

Bignanna · 06/10/2024 15:31

She’s not insisting everyone gives her kids money, just her husband, which is entirely reasonable!

They're already getting money from their grandparents and the OP.

If the OP and her DH have separate money, she shouldn't be trying to control what he does with his.

If they just have a family income, then the money she's putting away is from both parents anyway.

CocoMaroon · 06/10/2024 15:48

Chowtime · 06/10/2024 15:40

Agree with Pp 47k is a very small amount to support two adults and 2 children mortgage/cars/phones/utilities/council tax etc etc.

How much do you contribute?

I’m on £12K and contribute most of my wages towards bills, food, half the rent and children’s activities etc.

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peppermintteacup · 06/10/2024 15:48

Do you think he is pretending he will set up to put you off or do you think he is genuine and just not prioritising it?

If you think he's genuinely pretending he'll do it and has no intention of doing so, then you need to discuss that and get him to tell you directly how he feels about it, one way or another.

Honesty it's important.

If you believe he's just deprioritising it (possible, but seems less likely to me), just allocate a time for it and then at that time, sit there with him while he does it in front of you. Don't take no for an answer.
Refuse other basic interactions with him until it's complete.

MumblesParty · 06/10/2024 15:47

I’m a single parent so I’m the only one earning, and I earn similar to what your husband does (used to earn more before reducing hours). My financial contribution to my children is that I house them, clothe them, feed them, buy them what they need and much of what they want, I keep the house warm and lit, and take them on holiday, and so on. I never had a savings account for them. Doesn’t make me a bad parent. It’s just a different way of spending money on the kids. And actually, I’d argue it’s better for me to spend the money on sensible stuff now, than for the kids to get a lump sum on turning 18 and spend it on beer!

Comtesse · 06/10/2024 15:47

You should be able to talk about money. Your views on savings do not trump his however.

But I would be majorly ticked off if he swore he would do something and then didn’t do it. One off mistake sure no biggie, but here he’s going “yeah yeah sure” multiple tines and then not doing it. So it’s passive, bad faith, and that would annoy me.

He’s allowed to disagree but it’s crappy communication not to have that discussion directly.

Soontobe60 · 06/10/2024 15:47

sharpclawedkitten · 06/10/2024 15:27

I'm with you OP. Even if he only put in £20 a month each it would mount up.

Presumably you earn less than he does because you are facilitating his career, which is why he contributes more to the household finances. I don't think it was wrong to make him embarrassed with your parents - maybe now he will start investing for them.

I don't agree with other posters on this thread.

She earns less than him because she chose to work part time despite having teen children. Don’t infantilise her by pretending he made her do it to ‘further his own career’.

Soontobe60 · 06/10/2024 15:45

CocoMaroon · 06/10/2024 14:57

It’s such a shame as the children would have had potentially triple of what they will have when they turn 18/21 if he had bothered to set up a standing order. He’s not short of cash and could afford something.

First of all, £47k isn’t a high income for someone with teen children. Myself and Dh earned around £65K when our Dc were teens - we didn’t have a great deal of spare cash and what we did have went towards our pensions. he’s doing absolutely nothing wrong.
However, embarrassing him in front of your parents was just awful! I’d be livid if my DH did this to me. Which he wouldn’t because he’s a nice person and loyal husband.

CocoMaroon · 06/10/2024 15:45

Saracen · 06/10/2024 15:40

Total tangent to the main discussion: do you anticipate that your disabled child will be unable to work full-time, or will need to remain in non-advanced education longer than usual, and therefore might rely on government help after they are 18?

If so, you might consider putting the money which is being saved for your children into an account which is not in their name, and suggesting your parents do likewise. Once the kids reach 18, money they have in their own name could prevent them from claiming means-tested benefits such as Universal Credit. In addition, as another poster mentioned, there's a risk they will squander the money once they are able to access it.

That’s a very good point. I know I squandered my savings when I turned 18! When I think of what I could have done with that money now!

A very good point about how the savings might affect our sons Universal Credit etc, due to his high level of needs he will need lifetime support.

Both savings accounts are in his name.

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