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Is this a mad plan?

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SellAllMyStuff · 06/10/2024 10:13

I want to leave DH. He's v difficult, temperamental, he shows me no love. I don't fancy him. He's become a Trump supporter. I could go on but pls just don't feel sorry for him.

We live in a small village. We moved during the pandemic and it felt like a panicked move. I had one toddler and was pregnant with twins and we basically bought the biggest house we could afford and didn't think about the area

The kids are now starting school. I can't make any friends round here. All our neighbours are retired. Nothing happens here.

There is small town 25 mins away which has one the best schools for miles and I've made a really strong group of friends there (by going to clubs and kids things there). They all have kids similar ages. The town has loads going on. Its much more expensive and we would downsize.

H has agreed we should move now while the kifs are young but he's also told me it's "my rodeo" and I want to happen "it's on you". This is his attitude to everything

I would much prefer to split from H, sell our house and split the equity and then move to this town to a tiny house near the good school and start to rebuild my life. H can stay round here as only 20 mins or move there or move anywhere he wants of course!

However H could make this all v difficult. He can be v v petty. I once said I didn't like a coffee he bought me and now he refuses to buy me a coffee if we are out. He holds a grudge!! He could block me moving the kids school - even though he agrees now. He could delay everything for years by refusing to sell for example- and the kids will get more and more used to their school and I will be stuck here for years!

Am I being mad/machiavellian/unfair to put house up for sale now, move, get all the kids into the schools, and settle. And then leave him. Basically create the life I know is best for them and me and then leave him as soon as ive moved us all? Do I sound like I'm losing my mind to try and control things so much? I'm so unhappy should I just leave H or is that foolish?

I'm spiralling here trying to work out how to fix my life. Any advice pls.

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Greentreesandbushes · 06/10/2024 12:24

Do it!! Sounds great. Get some supporters on side, friends, family etc

MrsAga · 06/10/2024 11:56

he will be absolutely bloody furious though when he realises thats why i suggested renting. it is proper underhand.

i think buying a property under the same circumstances is more underhand.

Renting would be much easier to walk away from
unless he is attached to & could afford to buy you out of the house you are currently in, then he should have the opportunity to stay there. If not, having it already sold makes life easier.

Teaortea · 06/10/2024 11:53

It's not sneaky, it's strategic!

People who are calling you sneaky and manipulative have never been in a relationship with a spiteful, abusive, toxic person. There's no reasoning with them, no fairness or logic.

Do what you have to do and try to make sure he doesn't find out.

When you're settled and ready to leave him, the next petty ridiculous argument he instigates do NOT try and smooth it over as usual but instead use it as the "last straw".

Good luck op.

SellAllMyStuff · 06/10/2024 11:38

i think renting is a great idea though. then we can sell the house - the equity will be in cash and can be split 5050 easily. he will be absolutely bloody furious though when he realises thats why i suggested renting. it is proper underhand.

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SellAllMyStuff · 06/10/2024 11:36

@Notimeforaname not for their whole education, but he can refuse for a very long time. they are just at start of primary so we have another 7 years to go. i could take him to court if he refuses but no guarantee they would agree to move. it's his wish against mine.

i'll struggle to get them into the primary unless we move.

i absolutely understand what people are saying that this isn't the way to go about it. i wouldn't have posted if it felt like a simple/acceptable thing to do - to move house knowing you plan to leave your husband

and every time i think 'stop being ridiculous - just leave him and be up front' - i then think of what the next part of that looks like -me saying i want to move to XX town and move to XX school (something he agrees is best for DC) and he says NO and we are all stuck.

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Nogaxeh · 06/10/2024 11:22

I wouldn't move house and then split. Chances are the new house will have to be sold to split the equity, and then you've had to fork out for the transaction costs twice.

If there's a way to move the children's school without buying a different house together, then I'd do that, as that's the key thing you're anxious about.

Notimeforaname · 06/10/2024 11:17

This kind of underhand stuff always backfires. There are better ways you can do this, you know there are

Agree with this.
If you're honest you can walk away with a clear conscience.

I may be wrong but I've never actually heard of a child 'stuck' in one school for their whole education because one parent refused to move them.

It's not right to lull someone into something as huge as a house purchase knowing you'll be leaving them.

janeavrilavril · 06/10/2024 11:14

It just seems like a really awful thing to do to someone. The fact that you ask people 'not to feel sorry for him' means you know you don't really have any justification to be this spiteful no matter what your disagreements are. This kind of underhand stuff always backfires. There are better ways you can do this, you know there are. Don't drip feed to try and add validation.

Notimeforaname · 06/10/2024 11:12

As you said op, he can do things to make life difficult for you.
I would split and start the process now rather than going through more purchases , sales and setting up a "new life " together.

Imagine how pissed off he will be when he realises this was the plan. He'll really want to get back at you then and could also do a million things to stop your plans.

SellAllMyStuff · 06/10/2024 11:02

@Notimeforaname no I would not be happy about any of it. But I also will not and would not block things that had been previously agreed as good for the DC.

I have suggested counselling, I agreed to work more hours so he could go on part time to "focus on his mental health", I do everything he deems "stressful" (mortgage, bills, car stuff, kids parties, school admin, christmas). I've spent years and years trying

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MrsAga · 06/10/2024 10:55

Does the chosen school have spaces for out of catchment children? If so, enrol them & make the commute work in the short term.
once they are in school and settled, you can split/rent/sell as necessary.

MissJoGrant · 06/10/2024 10:55

Does he know you're so unhappy in the marriage?

Notimeforaname · 06/10/2024 10:54

Obviously you need to leave the relationship.
But would you be OK with him doing the same to you? Stringing you along, making a house purchase etc knowing he was going to leave you?

If it were me I would be honest. Tell him you're splitting, put house up for sale and go.
Why drag this out over two house sales? So rather then telling him now, you want to stay with him through a house sale, a house purchase, another sale (or one buying the other out) and then having to buy separately again?

If he is the type to make your life hell, he will do that at any step. I would get out as soon as possible.

SellAllMyStuff · 06/10/2024 10:49

Oh yes. The renting plan seems v smart. Yes - that's a great idea. Possibly even more sneaky than I was being and would mean he couldn't block sale by refusing to engage for months.

I know @Anotherparkingthread it seems sneaky. I mean - it is sneaky. I hate thinking like this. But I know we would have a better quality of life and education if we moved and H agrees! He just doesn't want to do anything to make it happen. But I have this real fear of being trapped. I can only imagine what it must feel like for people posting who are in the same situation but in different countries! You have to plan ahead to not become trapped....I know this town is only 25 mins away but it's the school thing. He can control it all by simply refusing to give me permission to move their school. I know it might seem crazy that H would block something good for DC to punish me but if I'm judging him on previous behaviour - he could absolutely do something like that.

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ChemtrailsandCountryClub · 06/10/2024 10:48

I think maybe you’re overthinking this. He’s already agreed to move as he thinks this is the best option for schools and activities for your kids, from what you say?

So it’s best that is where the kids have a home base. Anything further to that with splitting is up to you both when the time comes.

Rigatone · 06/10/2024 10:39

WonderingWanda · 06/10/2024 10:35

Have they actually started at your local school? I would suggest get your house on the market. Push for a sale and move to a short term rental in the town under the guise of getting the kids settled in their new school as quickly as possible and finding the dream home (after all he's said its your Rodeo) then once they are in and you are moved break the news that you aren't happy and wish to separate. It'll be easier to split the house proceeds that way I would imagine and he can't be stubborn and refuse to sell up at this point.

This seems like a good plan. (Contrary to my advice up thread)

DingDongDenny · 06/10/2024 10:36

Can you suggest you sell and then rent in the new area, while looking for a new house. You could argue it would make the process easier. That way it would be a lot easier to split once you move

SellAllMyStuff · 06/10/2024 10:35

We both work full time. I earn more than DH but not crazy amount or anything. I do 90% of kid stuff but there is no obvious "resident parent" as we work similar 9 - 5 hours. I do vast majority of pick ups and drops etc and do ALL admin but i have read a lot of advice threads on here and suspect if H pushed for 5050 he would get it.

He doesn't like it when I see my friends v much and always make shitty comments. He thinks the town is "stuck up" and I'm being "fancy". I really could see him blocking the move if he could.

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WonderingWanda · 06/10/2024 10:35

Have they actually started at your local school? I would suggest get your house on the market. Push for a sale and move to a short term rental in the town under the guise of getting the kids settled in their new school as quickly as possible and finding the dream home (after all he's said its your Rodeo) then once they are in and you are moved break the news that you aren't happy and wish to separate. It'll be easier to split the house proceeds that way I would imagine and he can't be stubborn and refuse to sell up at this point.

OrangeSlices998 · 06/10/2024 10:34

Can you move them to that school while you’re still in the village and he’s on board? I’m sorry you’re in this situation OP. Any family nearby?

DoNOTShakeItOff · 06/10/2024 10:33

@speedmop If parents split whilst agreeing shared custody - ie without the need for court involvement as they've agreed a custody arrangement, but the mother wants to move the kids' school, the father can step in and say "Nope. Not happening" and so it wouldn't happen.

Same vice versa

Anotherparkingthread · 06/10/2024 10:33

I think it's quite manipulative and snakey to do all that while pretending things are okay. If the roles were reversed and a man has tricked a woman into setting him up in the new life he wanted then broke things off with her once he was settled the comments would be very different.

That said if he's a total POS and he deserves it I'd definitely consider it. I could probably only do it to somebody I genuinely really hated though.

jeaux90 · 06/10/2024 10:32

Do you work OP? I'd be tempted to suggest you rent something in the town whilst you work out the right area to live and then pull the trigger on the divorce.

That way the capital is sitting there. Otherwise it's a lot of stamp duty to waste.

Rigatone · 06/10/2024 10:32

LlynTegid · 06/10/2024 10:30

Unless you live in the US, I cannot see the relevance of his support for Trump here.

Oh god I can.

Claudiashairismegashiny · 06/10/2024 10:30

Yes op, I’d do this. I’m in a similar situation, but abroad, so it’s even harder. I have to have this plan, I cannot just leave as out of spite, he can make me stay here until my dc turns 18 and it’s hard to find work, I have no family support etc. The law would be on his side. The only way I can do it is to all move back and settle and make sure I’m out of here, then see what happens.

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