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Is this a mad plan?

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SellAllMyStuff · 06/10/2024 10:13

I want to leave DH. He's v difficult, temperamental, he shows me no love. I don't fancy him. He's become a Trump supporter. I could go on but pls just don't feel sorry for him.

We live in a small village. We moved during the pandemic and it felt like a panicked move. I had one toddler and was pregnant with twins and we basically bought the biggest house we could afford and didn't think about the area

The kids are now starting school. I can't make any friends round here. All our neighbours are retired. Nothing happens here.

There is small town 25 mins away which has one the best schools for miles and I've made a really strong group of friends there (by going to clubs and kids things there). They all have kids similar ages. The town has loads going on. Its much more expensive and we would downsize.

H has agreed we should move now while the kifs are young but he's also told me it's "my rodeo" and I want to happen "it's on you". This is his attitude to everything

I would much prefer to split from H, sell our house and split the equity and then move to this town to a tiny house near the good school and start to rebuild my life. H can stay round here as only 20 mins or move there or move anywhere he wants of course!

However H could make this all v difficult. He can be v v petty. I once said I didn't like a coffee he bought me and now he refuses to buy me a coffee if we are out. He holds a grudge!! He could block me moving the kids school - even though he agrees now. He could delay everything for years by refusing to sell for example- and the kids will get more and more used to their school and I will be stuck here for years!

Am I being mad/machiavellian/unfair to put house up for sale now, move, get all the kids into the schools, and settle. And then leave him. Basically create the life I know is best for them and me and then leave him as soon as ive moved us all? Do I sound like I'm losing my mind to try and control things so much? I'm so unhappy should I just leave H or is that foolish?

I'm spiralling here trying to work out how to fix my life. Any advice pls.

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TheCultureHusks · 18/10/2024 08:34

Congratulations!

He’s an absolute piece of shit. Smile and ignore and just mentally think of how much every nasty loser comment is another nail in his coffin, and he doesn’t even know it 👌

GabriellaMontez · 18/10/2024 07:39

Well done!!

No it's not normal. The guys a fucking freak. He sounds threatened by you.

Aria999 · 18/10/2024 01:06

Also (ahem) congrats on your second interview 🍾🎉

Aria999 · 18/10/2024 01:05

It's not normal.

I assume he wasn't a deadbeat creepy controlling negative loser when you married him!? Sad how people change.

SellAllMyStuff · 17/10/2024 23:10

Thank you @PaminaMozart

New job
New school
New house
No husband

I'm so determined.

💃

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PaminaMozart · 17/10/2024 19:12

Well done!!!!

And 🤞🤞🤞for getting the job.

But please stop paying heed to what he says and focus on your plans for the future.

You are a very capable woman - you'll be fine.

SellAllMyStuff · 17/10/2024 19:02

I got a 2nd interview for the job I want. It's similar money but 20 min commute instead of 90 min which is far better for the kids if I'm about to become a single mum. I'll be able to do every drop and pick up and I can WFH a load too.

Anyway I told H I had a 2nd interview and he said "how much then. How much". I told him the salary and he said "that's alright I guess". And I said "no congratulations for the 2nd interview then?"

And he said "I'm not going to say well done for getting another interview when I don't know how much money you'll be bringing in. I need to see a job offer and a salary before I say well done"

I mean that's not normal is it? I feel like I'm being overly sensitive in those moments but I would say well done to someone for getting to last stage interview

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thepariscrimefiles · 17/10/2024 07:59

SellAllMyStuff · 16/10/2024 22:55

@endlesslight thanks for all that helpful info. The school can't say no on that basis. The council are about to go over the legal threshold for issuing it so will need to start taking action on that.

@GabriellaMontez I don't know if I'm bein financially abused. I have my own income and independence. I just pay for most things and have been called every name under the sun.

He is a deeply insecure angry man. I am not scared of him but he feels v unpredictable. He doesn't have friends or a job or wider family that he cares about. I worry about how he will be without us because he doesn't have much else.

You paying for everything is financial abuse. He has no redeeming features at all. You and your children will be so much happier without him in your home.

Do not feel sorry for him. He doesn't have any friends, workmates or family because he is a horrible, angry man.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 16/10/2024 23:53

I worry about how he will be without us because he doesn't have much else.

That’s 100% his fault, OP! Don’t let inappropriate pity drag you and DC down. He can look after himself, he just prefers to exploit you.

Hairyesterdaygonetoday · 16/10/2024 23:51

SellAllMyStuff · 07/10/2024 18:26

Yes, I think you're right. I actually think there is something in moving genuinely being something that is the last final attempt to save us. He's done some awful stuff but his MH isn't great at times and I think he's v isolated. I've made an effort to make friends but maybe if we go to a new town - he'll make friends and stop taking stuff out on me.

I mean I highly doubt it as there seems so little love there but I can say to him that we need to move to get out of this rut.

But wow isn't renting so expensive! For a house similar to ours we would be paying thousands! So he might think it's a bit crazy

I'm definitely going to move first. Being stuck here in a messy divorce unable to move while working every hour - I think it will break me!!

Don’t be deterred, OP. Get moved and the DC settled into their new school, that’s the priority.

Ignore PPs saying you’re being devious or unfair. That’s irrelevant here, You need to make this move, and if you’re divorcing him at the same time he will do everything he can to sabotage it. You have to get the move completed first.

Who knows, you may even get on with him better after that. If not, you are on much safer ground to start divorce proceedings. Best of luck xx

Wiseplumant · 16/10/2024 23:11

I think that the fact he is a Trump supporter would be enough for me to end it!

SellAllMyStuff · 16/10/2024 22:55

@endlesslight thanks for all that helpful info. The school can't say no on that basis. The council are about to go over the legal threshold for issuing it so will need to start taking action on that.

@GabriellaMontez I don't know if I'm bein financially abused. I have my own income and independence. I just pay for most things and have been called every name under the sun.

He is a deeply insecure angry man. I am not scared of him but he feels v unpredictable. He doesn't have friends or a job or wider family that he cares about. I worry about how he will be without us because he doesn't have much else.

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PrueRamsay · 16/10/2024 09:13

I don’t have much practical advice to add, but I am willing you on OP.

You can do this and you will be so much happier.

Mydogsleftearishalfcocked · 16/10/2024 09:05

okydokethen · 10/10/2024 13:40

Sounds entirely sensible to me. Mumsnet always chants get your ducks in row but then doesn't like it it seems when you do it.

School and friends are important, make the life you want and then when you're safe to, leave him and his hateful trump views.

Yes, many men plan their “escape” silently for years and then just spring it on their wives as a fait accompli, so I’d think of this as cosmic justice.

This man doesn’t want to engage, has opted out, and if op did engage with him, it wouldn’t go well. So what option does she have?

EndlessLight · 16/10/2024 08:37

If the LA agree to issue an EHCP, when you get the draft you get the chance to state your preferred placement.

Unless this is wholly independent, the LA must name your preferred placement unless the LA can prove:
-The setting is unsuitable for the age, ability, aptitude or special educational needs (“SEN”) of the child or young person; or
-The attendance of the child or young person would be incompatible with the provision of efficient education for others; or
-The attendance of the child or young person would be incompatible with the efficient use of resources.

This is set out in law. Being full is not defined in law, and on its own being ‘full’ is not enough of a reason to refuse to name your preference. The LA has to prove the school is so full admitting DS is incompatible. Obviously there is a point where LAs can do this, but the bar for the LA to be able to prove the above is higher than many LAs and schools admit (which is partly why so many appeals are upheld). Case law shows it is more than an “adverse effect”, “impact on” or “prejudicial to”. Unless the school is wholly independent, the LA can, and must, name the school regardless of the school’s objections unless the LA can prove one of the reasons above. You only need an offer of a place for a wholly independent school.

If the school is named in I, they must admit. The school could, in theory, look at JR if they disagreed with being named. However, in the vast, vast majority of cases, schools don’t because they know they don’t have a case legally (because objecting to being named isn’t enough on its own) and costs could in theory be ordered. Or some types can ask for the SoS determination but again, this is not common at all and the school must still admit whilst the SoS makes their decision. And the determination can still be appealed to SENDIST.

GabriellaMontez · 16/10/2024 08:35

So, he refuses to discuss money or contribute. He shouts if you try.

This is definitely something to discuss with women's aid/lawyer. Could this amount to financial abuse?

SellAllMyStuff · 16/10/2024 07:38

@EndlessLight I am asked to name the school no? I thought schools could refuse an EHCP is they are absolutely maxed out?

@GabriellaMontez I agree about the debt. He earns reasonably well so i don't know where his money is going. The main issue though isn't that he pays so little but that he won't talk to me about it. If i bring it up - he will start shouting within second honestly.

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Teeshs · 15/10/2024 20:34

Get as much proof as possible that the school is better for your children.
Even go so far as to tell your husband THAT is the reason you are leaving, for the children's education.
Get legal advice and from Women's aid.
Keep stressing the school is best for your child and you don't want his spite to stop it.

EndlessLight · 15/10/2024 19:30

If the state school is named in an EHCP, they must admit regardless of if they have a waiting list or not. If the school is named it is not complex.

265IceCream · 15/10/2024 18:17

YANBU. Get your ducks in a row, I don't see anything morally wrong, just doubting whether you can last long enough. Get legal advice first, it will be money well spent.

Personally, I got my ducks in a row before leaving my emotionally abusive exH. Finances, solicitor, everything. I even put a deposit on another apartment as I knew that once I announced I would leave he would kick off.

And the day I decided would be leaving day, I caused an argument. How did I cause a massive argument? I didn't make the bed perfectly neat. He came home and saw the bed wasn't made "properly" and yelled abuse at me for 3 hours. It validated my decision and also made him feel bad when I walked out. I was so happy. The second I left the house, I felt free. Also sad and overwhelmed and exhausted but free.

OopsyDaisie · 15/10/2024 17:52

Have you gone to look at this house you found?

GabriellaMontez · 15/10/2024 17:36

And yes he sounds fucking vile. No wonder you want to escape.

The coffee thing alone is the most pathetic, petty, loser behaviour. He sounds like a tiny, insecure man.

GabriellaMontez · 15/10/2024 17:32

What worries me is that his debts are much bigger than you imagine. (Or he does have a gambling habit. I mean what are his debts from?)

And that as a result, you don't have the equity you thought you had.

Or you're unable to get a mortgage in future. Because you've defaulted on the current one.

I have no idea how to minimise the risk of this. Presumably someone at women's aid or a solicitor could advise.

I agree with moving school now and fighting the battle later.

SellAllMyStuff · 15/10/2024 17:23

I have a found a tiny but perfect home for us right near the school. 3 bed. Overgrown but big garden. and I could afford it on my salary by myself! We would be happy there. Walk to the school and a big park and near some of the kids friends. It can't be impossible to get us there somehow!

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SellAllMyStuff · 15/10/2024 17:17

Yes - I think perhaps time to fork out for some legal advice. Right at the top of this thread some people were doubtful that he could prevent us moving or moving school but I'm pretty sure he cpild make it v difficult
But maybe better to split and then just fight. I have evidence that the other school is far more suitable for our kids - I'm not doing it on a whim. Maybe I could get legal advice and split now and just spend a ton on legal support to fight him rather than a ton on stamp duty/rent for a house that isn't going to be our home.

I am surprised by how bad people think it sounds

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