Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

If you are an overnight guest in someone's home do you treat the bedroom you're staying in as though it's one of the communal areas?

135 replies

bluebirdholiday · 05/10/2024 22:32

Genuine question,

Am just back from staying with a friend in the states. So I was a guest in their apartment, had a bedroom of my own. The apartment is all on one level and 'my' room was tucked away right at the end so not off a main thoroughfare.

I only had a small carry on bag of stuff as only there for a long weekend, but I guess I had things out in the room. Not dirty socks or whatever, but stuff on the dressing table and maybe I'd draped my clothes over the back of the chair.

Anyway, she had visitors over and really told me off about my 'messy' bedroom and how I had to tidy it up as people were coming over and they'd be in there.

I'd honestly never heard of this before. If I have house guests I don't go in to their bedrooms while they're staying let alone ask them to pack away all traces of their stuff?

I ask genuinely if AIBU as I'm not sure if this is an American thing, a general thing or I am nbu to have expected that I could put my things out in the guest bedroom.

OP posts:
petermaddog · 06/10/2024 01:25

strange friends

Hiitsmegirl · 06/10/2024 01:12

Also..maybe you are a tiny bit sensitive. Perhaps she isn't berating you and you are just taking it the wrong way. Like...i can be harsh and playful with my sister about her messes because we are so close. So is it possible she is poking fun at you and you are the one feeling embarrassed and out of place? Perhaps she feels close enough to you to tell you that you're messy and that her guests will judge her.

Hiitsmegirl · 06/10/2024 01:04

She was upset that you had underwear on the clothes horse??? Why did you ever go and visit her? She sounds insane.

I went to the house of an American mother of 3 young children (one is 7 months) with my 5 month old last week. I proceeded to discreetly feed my fussing baby. She was all "oh yes, go ahead!!!" as if I had asked her if I could breastfeed in her home. I was like "oh, I breastfeed her anywhere and any time." Eyeroll.
She's from Virginia...

Hiitsmegirl · 06/10/2024 00:57

I'm Canadian. But I honestly have only met one normal American in my life. I would have closed the bedroom door and treated that bedroom as off limits to other guests or visitors because I'm a stellar host and want my overnight guests to feel cozy and cared for.

Pallisers · 06/10/2024 00:50

I have an electric kettle - have had one for years. No problem with the voltage. I think the non-electric kettle thing is more that americans don't drink that much tea or instant coffee. Most people who don't have a kettle will have a coffee maker.

4405cd · 06/10/2024 00:21

I have a friend who is using my son’s room ,she is from NZ .She has been away for a few weeks, and I have only been in room to change bedclothes,dust etc !

bluebirdholiday · 06/10/2024 00:01

@Ivehearditbothways kettles on the stove is a difference between the UK and US I didn't mean to imply it has a deep cultural meaning 🤣 just that how we boil our water is different.

OP posts:
Ivehearditbothways · 05/10/2024 23:58

bluebirdholiday · 05/10/2024 22:44

Thank you! This is why I asked, that's helpful cheers. I'm not sure why she felt the need to shame me into the bargain but I guess it's just a cultural thing like them having whistling kettles on the stove

Kettles on the stove isn’t cultural. It’s due to power required. They only have 110volts. Boiling a kettle using electric kettles takes ages out there, so they use the rice or microwave the water.
We have 230volts so we can use electric kettles without waiting an age.

romdowa · 05/10/2024 23:58

PyongyangKipperbang · 05/10/2024 23:31

A friend in the US had to put some stuff out to dry in the garden as their 3 kids had noro and she simply couldnt get it dry in the tumble dryer quick enough. It was the height of summer in Texas. Her NDN reported her to the HOA because drying washing outside was against their rule and SHOCK HORROR!!!!! her son and husband saw her underwear!

Friend had inherited her house from her grandparents and much to the NDN's annoyance, she wasnt part of the HOA as her house predated theirs by decades so she just ignored it all but was slagged off to all and sundry by the NDN.

I have seen this posted about on MN too, but according to my friend the very conservative viewpoint of things that like this is very very prevelant in the US.

Reminds me of my gran. She had a hidden line behind her shed for womens underwear to be hung up. As she got older she used to hang her own stuff up in her en suite. It's a very old fashioned thing

NoisyDenimShaker · 05/10/2024 23:51

PyongyangKipperbang · 05/10/2024 23:16

This sort if thing is why I would never be a houseguest, and even hate small B&B's or guesthouses! Give me an anonymous Premier Inn every time.

Perhaps her letting yourself in to a room you didnt show her is what she expects from her other guests. As for berating you for having underwear on the clothes horse, wtf?!

I feel EXACTLY the same! Stayed at an inn on Nantucket, USA once, and we all had to sit at one big breakfast table and have our breakfast with about a dozen other people! Like a dinner party with 12 strangers except it's early in the morning, you're pre-caffeine, and you're barely awake!

Let's hear it for Premier Inn!

I, too, HATE being a houseguest!

readysteadynono · 05/10/2024 23:48

That’s very odd. I wouldn’t go in a guest’s room unless I needed something specific and then I’d ask permission. It’s a private space.

GoldenLegend · 05/10/2024 23:45

If I have a guest in my spare room, it's absolutely theirs. When I have guests sleeping in my spare room and in my sitting room - which is open plan - the sitting room is their space and we use the conservatory as a sitting room. Privacy is very important to me so I assume it is to other people too, particularly if you're staying away from home.

BettyBardMacDonald · 05/10/2024 23:39

She sounds totally batshit. A guest bedroom should be private to the guest unless otherwise specified IN ADVANCE of the visit.

Terrible host.

bluebirdholiday · 05/10/2024 23:38

Pallisers · 05/10/2024 23:35

I live in Boston. She is weird. It is a her thing - berating you when she opened your boxroom as well - something going on with her. She's a weirdo about this.

No one I know goes into their guest's rooms when guests are staying there.

The "house tour" thing is a thing I've encountered in Ireland and the US - I've encountered it more here - and more from Irish people but that is because we live in an older and quite traditional american house so non US visitors love seeing it.

Yeah americans use the tumble dryer way more than europeans but it is very hip in Boston to dry on clothes horses or on the line and also loads of people do it because it is cheaper.

If she has other lovely redeeming qualities, then chalk it up to her one weird thing.

I hope you are enjoying your trip - Boston is a great city.

Excellent perspective, thank you! Honestly I just genuinely don't know how to take her at times and I'd prefer to think it's cultural than deliberate. Thank you

OP posts:
bluebirdholiday · 05/10/2024 23:36

Re: privacy I think that's what put me on the back foot a bit as she literally announced she'd been in 'my' room while I went for a run and expected me to tidy it up as it was embarrassing given guests were coming over.

Overall I did have a nice time but I couldn't really afford to go (credit card for the flights but that's what you do for old friends) and then felt wrong footed about stuff I just didn't really 'get' like not having kept everything in my tiny carry on suitcase the entire weekend

OP posts:
Pallisers · 05/10/2024 23:35

I live in Boston. She is weird. It is a her thing - berating you when she opened your boxroom as well - something going on with her. She's a weirdo about this.

No one I know goes into their guest's rooms when guests are staying there.

The "house tour" thing is a thing I've encountered in Ireland and the US - I've encountered it more here - and more from Irish people but that is because we live in an older and quite traditional american house so non US visitors love seeing it.

Yeah americans use the tumble dryer way more than europeans but it is very hip in Boston to dry on clothes horses or on the line and also loads of people do it because it is cheaper.

If she has other lovely redeeming qualities, then chalk it up to her one weird thing.

I hope you are enjoying your trip - Boston is a great city.

JC03745 · 05/10/2024 23:32

Did you ask why the friends were in 'your bedroom' when they'd been to the house before, therefore unlikely to be a tour? Very odd! If we have someone staying and I needed something in their room I'd ask them before going in. I would absolutely not be taking randoms on there!

Regarding 'tours', I used to live in a 2 bed flat, 1 level with a small corridor. A colleague met at mine, before we headed out. We walked into the lounge- so she could see every room anyway- then asked for a tour! She didn't just stand at the door to the bedrooms- but walked inside, looked around, moved the curtains to see the view and even opened wardrobe doors!!! She is Slovakian, and I don't know if that is a cultural thing? If I've ever been shown around someones house (at THEIR request) I'd stand at the door and give a cursory look, not go into the bedroom and touch things!

PyongyangKipperbang · 05/10/2024 23:31

Tengreenbottles2 · 05/10/2024 23:22

Well my gran thinks that drying clothes on radiators and hanging underwear out anywhere visible in your house is "an absolutely terrible thing to do " (verbatim quote) so maybe your friend is very old fashioned...?

A friend in the US had to put some stuff out to dry in the garden as their 3 kids had noro and she simply couldnt get it dry in the tumble dryer quick enough. It was the height of summer in Texas. Her NDN reported her to the HOA because drying washing outside was against their rule and SHOCK HORROR!!!!! her son and husband saw her underwear!

Friend had inherited her house from her grandparents and much to the NDN's annoyance, she wasnt part of the HOA as her house predated theirs by decades so she just ignored it all but was slagged off to all and sundry by the NDN.

I have seen this posted about on MN too, but according to my friend the very conservative viewpoint of things that like this is very very prevelant in the US.

10milliondollars · 05/10/2024 23:27

My guests are entitled to their privacy and their room would not be on show to anyone. I wonder whether she is a neat freak.

LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 05/10/2024 23:26

I used to have friends like that.

Tengreenbottles2 · 05/10/2024 23:22

bluebirdholiday · 05/10/2024 22:40

Thank you that's helpful!!

She's a really old friend I've had since school but she grew up partly in the states and now lives there again. She's a bit odd with stuff like this and I don't know if it's cultural.

For e.g. 20 years ago when DH and I bought our first house she wanted a tour of it which is absolutely fine and accepted. Anyway, it was only a little 3 bed thing so I showed her around it with the exception of the box room as it had nothing in it except a clothes airer.

She then opened the door herself saying "what's in here?" Then proceeded to berate me for having underwear having up in there on the day of her visit. I mean? I didn't invite her to go in there and don't really understand her kind of 'access all areas' approach but I'm quite a private person hence why I ask.

Well my gran thinks that drying clothes on radiators and hanging underwear out anywhere visible in your house is "an absolutely terrible thing to do " (verbatim quote) so maybe your friend is very old fashioned...?

bluebirdholiday · 05/10/2024 23:21

PyongyangKipperbang · 05/10/2024 23:16

This sort if thing is why I would never be a houseguest, and even hate small B&B's or guesthouses! Give me an anonymous Premier Inn every time.

Perhaps her letting yourself in to a room you didnt show her is what she expects from her other guests. As for berating you for having underwear on the clothes horse, wtf?!

I'm totally with you I really dislike staying in people's houses. I was a guest at her (small) wedding and couldn't have afforded to attend otherwise (Boston isn't cheap).

The clothes horse thing i think may have been cultural as well as they don't hang clothes out there as far as I can tell? I did do some laundry there and it was all expected to go straight into her gargantuan top loading dryer so yes - the idea of their being pants on a clothes horse was probably shocking to her despite the real horror being the environmental cost of drying her clothes like that.

I don't want to descent into a bitch about her, she's a dear friend who I love very much but there are parts of her behaviour where I can't tell if it's just normal for her or if she's being a judgey fucker

OP posts:
NiftyKoala · 05/10/2024 23:20

That's very odd. I don't go in bedrooms when I visit people.

PyongyangKipperbang · 05/10/2024 23:16

This sort if thing is why I would never be a houseguest, and even hate small B&B's or guesthouses! Give me an anonymous Premier Inn every time.

Perhaps her letting yourself in to a room you didnt show her is what she expects from her other guests. As for berating you for having underwear on the clothes horse, wtf?!

thebigL · 05/10/2024 23:11

Well yes I didn't think I'd have to clarify that when I say US thing I don't actually mean every single American all over the US! But it is apparently a thing in some places over there. Same as 'Europe' or indeed any other region - there will be variations in culture/mores.

Anyhow I think we can all agree that this would be considered very odd in many UK homes and also in many US homes!