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Partner’s crazy ex wife.

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UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 20:17

I met my fiancé in 2019. He has one child with his ex wife. He told me from the beginning that his ex wife was unhinged, but I put it down to him using the phrase flippantly, and assumed he had probably done some wrongdoings in their marriage. His friends and family also used to mention how insane she is. I genuinely didn’t take much notice, as how many times as women have we been told about the ‘crazy ex’?

For the first year of dating, everything was fine. However, any time something big happens in our relationship (or any time to be honest) his ex does something nuts.

It first started in March 2020, when my partner and I decided to move in together as we didn’t want to spend lockdown alone. My fiancés ex sent him a huge rambling email, probably over 2000 words long, accusing him of being unsafe, killing vulnerable people, that we were terrible for breaking lockdown rules. We didn’t do anything to break the rules, other than combine our households. My fiancé obviously couldn’t see his child at this time due to Covid restrictions. Throughout lockdown, we had visits from the police who had been told we were having parties and flouting lockdown rules. We can’t be sure it was his ex wife, but we are pretty certain due to her earlier email, the fact it was all lies and nobody else would have any motivation.

In 2022 my fiance proposed to me, and the day after the proposal, she turned up at our door with my stepson and said that he was living with us from now on. No explanation, just turned up on the doorstep with his bags. This caused huge issues as we had to change our entire lives around to do the school run some half an hour away, take him to all his clubs, his friends houses. We both work full time and didn’t plan for this. Before this, my stepson had been over every weekend, so it was a massive lifestyle change. Eventually, his ex wife agreed that stepson could come and live with her again, and it’s been a 50% arrangement ever since.

In 2023, I got a promotion at work. I’m not sure how she found out (maybe LinkedIn, is all I can think?) but a couple of weeks later we had a fraudulent claim made against us via the CMS. She claimed that we never had stepson overnight and we became liable for massive payments which took months and a court order to eventually sort out. In the meantime, we were down thousands and have no way to get the money back, even though it was clear fraud.

Yesterday I announced my pregnancy, and today she has sent my fiancé a long email saying she is going to be reporting us to stepsons school and social services as she doesn’t think we are fit parents, this is despite her up until this point being happy for us to have stepson 50% of the time. We are good people, stepson loves his time here, this is just another attempt to disrupt our lives.

These are all the big things, intermingled in all of this is lots of crazy phone calls, texts, emails. I’m at my wits end. It’s causing huge arguments between me and my fiancé and I’ve reached the point of just wanting to leave and go it alone. I can’t cope with the near constant disruption and living on edge not knowing what she’s going to do next. I feel idiotic as I was warned from the beginning that she was crazy, but it wasn’t until we made major life decisions that she really became a massive disruptor in our lives.

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Gladicalled · 05/10/2024 21:29

Op I mean this gently. But this is more trouble than it’s worth.

You are wrong about lockdown. And you know that’s wrong. You claim you didn’t know kids could go between houses. Then that she wouldn’t let him anyway.

You moved in because you didn’t want to be alone and learned about about the rules to know you didn’t break them by moving in together. But no one looked at what the rules around kids were?

I am divorced from my kids Dad, that was the first thing I wanted to know. What would happen about kids loving between homes. The day lockdown was announced ds was with his Dad. I was petrified I wouldn’t be able to see him. Any parent in that situation would have found out the rules. You think this hit isn’t a big deal. But it is. Because it shows his attitude. ‘I didn’t know that’ just isn’t good enough from a parent. Think about your baby. Would you be fine being separated from your child not knowing how long it would be? Would you not look into it?

I can imagine she is a pain in the arse. But also I think your dp isn’t really the amazingly wonderful man you think he is.

How would she even know he proposed by the next day? You assume she knew about your promotion, but don’t know. You and him and filling in some blanks.

and honestly, if you get with someone with children you have to be prepared that you could end up with them full time. It’s always a possibility. And then you will have to work round them.

Also many many women think their dps are excellent fathers right up until they have a child. Then it becomes clearer that they actually just got loads of praise for being an ok Dad. Look at the many threads on the step parenting board. About how once a woman has her own child she can see the problems.

I am not blaming you for any of this but I think you are being naive.

FreeWeekend · 05/10/2024 21:28

FuzzyGoblin · 05/10/2024 21:19

I’m guessing that when you break up and you become his second insane ex that you might have a greater understanding.

I think that is a strong possibility. He has shown he wasn't a good dad by not finding out about lockdown rules and therefore not seeing his child for that time. Let's see how he is with your child, many men show their true colours once the child takes attention from them. Their partners suddenly become 'insane'.

Gemstonebeach · 05/10/2024 21:26

I just feel sorry for your poor stepson being in the middle of this. Imagine your mum just dumping you on your dad’s doorstep and your life changing completely. Such unnecessary trauma being caused just because the parents can’t get on.

Teanbiscuits33 · 05/10/2024 21:26

Regardless of what else has gone on, I’d have ran for the hills the second he referred to a ‘crazy ex’ during early dating 🤣 so many men use this tired old line my alarm bells would have been well and truly ringing.

However, in the here and now, she’s too much drama, I’d get law involved so that your fiancé doesn’t have to maintain contact with her beyond discussing DC.

Attelina · 05/10/2024 21:25

FuzzyGoblin · 05/10/2024 21:19

I’m guessing that when you break up and you become his second insane ex that you might have a greater understanding.

This 100%

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:24

No he continued to pay the mortgage and bills whilst stepson lived with us. He then reduced to a weekly amount which she agreed to but when she presumably found out about my promotion she lied to the CMS in order to get the maximum amount of money she could.

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Beezknees · 05/10/2024 21:23

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:17

Why the huge focus over lockdown? His mum also insisted stepson didn’t travel due to her elderly relative. They did weekly zooms, he sent gifts every week and saw him as soon as the draconian rules were lifted.

I’m not sure why everyone is focussing on this one potential slight of my partner, and not the multitude of nutty things his ex has done.

You see it time and time again with these men that have "crazy" exes, they can't be that bothered otherwise they'd try to get full custody of their children. If my ex was unhinged I wouldn't want my child living with them.

DinosaurMunch · 05/10/2024 21:22

How does CMS work then? I thought it was taken from PAYE earnings or based on tax returns. Surely you can't just claim any amount you want from CMS?

Beezknees · 05/10/2024 21:21

Of course he could have seen his child during lockdown, there were no rules against that. Lame excuse and piss poor parenting from him.

Hankunamatata · 05/10/2024 21:21

By any chance did he stop paying the mortgage and bills that had been agreed when she brought step son to live with you both full time?

Marblesbackagain · 05/10/2024 21:20

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:17

Why the huge focus over lockdown? His mum also insisted stepson didn’t travel due to her elderly relative. They did weekly zooms, he sent gifts every week and saw him as soon as the draconian rules were lifted.

I’m not sure why everyone is focussing on this one potential slight of my partner, and not the multitude of nutty things his ex has done.

Because it is a massive flag and really is shocking to parents. It is literally something no parent that I know did.

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:20

FuzzyGoblin · 05/10/2024 21:19

I’m guessing that when you break up and you become his second insane ex that you might have a greater understanding.

I certainly wouldn’t be ringing the police unfounded, damaging my child, committing fraud and calling social services just to make his life as miserable as possible.

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UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:19

Even if he was a shit dad (he’s not) it doesn’t justify her making false CMS claims, leaving her son off with us and upheaving his entire life on a total whim, calling the police, calling social services. I’ve never done anything but be kind and have a brilliant relationship with my stepson.

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FuzzyGoblin · 05/10/2024 21:19

I’m guessing that when you break up and you become his second insane ex that you might have a greater understanding.

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:17

Why the huge focus over lockdown? His mum also insisted stepson didn’t travel due to her elderly relative. They did weekly zooms, he sent gifts every week and saw him as soon as the draconian rules were lifted.

I’m not sure why everyone is focussing on this one potential slight of my partner, and not the multitude of nutty things his ex has done.

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tuvamoodyson · 05/10/2024 21:16

What is it he does that makes him a ‘brilliant’ dad?

Marblesbackagain · 05/10/2024 21:15

We didn’t realise that was allowed, she also said it wasn’t....

So neither you nor your partner listened to any news read any news app? Really, because that stinks to be honest.

Nobody could keep me from my child. Yet your partner was okay with it. If I felt he chose a girlfriend over his child I wouldn't have any respect for him

I think you were fed a line, it sounds like that poor kid has two crap parents.

mindutopia · 05/10/2024 21:15

I think if she is truly that unwell then he needs to intervene and protect his son. I would have been fighting for being nearly full-time with him and something like EOW or supervised contact with his mum.

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:15

FreeWeekend · 05/10/2024 21:11

We didn’t realise that was allowed, she also said it wasn’t, and she didn’t want stepson seeing anyone anyway as she was in contact with an elderly relative.

I don't believe that a decent father wouldn't have made it his business to check that he could see his child in lockdown, and would just blindly believe a woman who is apparently 'insane'.

I live with my children's father so the rule didn't matter to me, but I was still aware that children could go between parents houses.

He said she’s always been unhinged, but she was manageable and a good mum (his words). Since we started doing big things in our relationship she’s ramped it up to another level.

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Canonlythinkofthisone · 05/10/2024 21:14

How did you and he get together? How long had she been the crazy ex for.?
She sounds ridiculous. But normally there's a reason for the "crazy".
And just another one to say, I didn't even have children during lockdown but I still know they could travel freely between parental homes.

FreeWeekend · 05/10/2024 21:11

We didn’t realise that was allowed, she also said it wasn’t, and she didn’t want stepson seeing anyone anyway as she was in contact with an elderly relative.

I don't believe that a decent father wouldn't have made it his business to check that he could see his child in lockdown, and would just blindly believe a woman who is apparently 'insane'.

I live with my children's father so the rule didn't matter to me, but I was still aware that children could go between parents houses.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 05/10/2024 21:10

Children absolutely could move between their two homes (ie between two parents) during every part of all lockdowns. That was one of the few things made absolutely clear throughout.

She does sound absolutely unhinged - like she’s never got over the relationship ending perhaps, but also like genuine mental health problems.

Sounds as thought your stepson would be better off living with you guys for at least a majority of the time to be honest.

Zanatdy · 05/10/2024 21:10

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:02

We didn’t realise that was allowed, she also said it wasn’t, and she didn’t want stepson seeing anyone anyway as she was in contact with an elderly relative.

The every weekend was a longstanding arrangement that she was in agreement with so he could work full time, she could work part time and he would continue to pay for the mortgage and bills through his wages whilst stepson lived their full time.

How long didn’t he see him for? I assume none of you watched the news, watched the daily Covid updates or chatted to colleagues as contact with your own children was never banned. It sounds like she calls the shots and he just puts up with it. He needs to quit communicating with her, the son is old enough now, or use a parenting app. She is only going to get worse as your pregnancy continues and once you give birth, well, she’s going to ramp it up. Hence you both need to put a stop to her contacting her ex. A 12yr old is fine to send the arrangements too, she doesn’t need to get involved.

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:09

ThatDaringMintCritic · 05/10/2024 21:06

If you've not been in this situation, it is so hard to understand. It's like being hit by train. You and your fiance need to sit down and work out how best to manage his ex. I'd suggest posting on the step parenting chat as you will get some good, practical advice there.

Thank you. We could ignore the emails and texts, her saying nasty things to stepson that we then need to sort out.

But the malicious practical things are impossible to avoid.

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Korn4 · 05/10/2024 21:08

During Covid* even