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Partner’s crazy ex wife.

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UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 20:17

I met my fiancé in 2019. He has one child with his ex wife. He told me from the beginning that his ex wife was unhinged, but I put it down to him using the phrase flippantly, and assumed he had probably done some wrongdoings in their marriage. His friends and family also used to mention how insane she is. I genuinely didn’t take much notice, as how many times as women have we been told about the ‘crazy ex’?

For the first year of dating, everything was fine. However, any time something big happens in our relationship (or any time to be honest) his ex does something nuts.

It first started in March 2020, when my partner and I decided to move in together as we didn’t want to spend lockdown alone. My fiancés ex sent him a huge rambling email, probably over 2000 words long, accusing him of being unsafe, killing vulnerable people, that we were terrible for breaking lockdown rules. We didn’t do anything to break the rules, other than combine our households. My fiancé obviously couldn’t see his child at this time due to Covid restrictions. Throughout lockdown, we had visits from the police who had been told we were having parties and flouting lockdown rules. We can’t be sure it was his ex wife, but we are pretty certain due to her earlier email, the fact it was all lies and nobody else would have any motivation.

In 2022 my fiance proposed to me, and the day after the proposal, she turned up at our door with my stepson and said that he was living with us from now on. No explanation, just turned up on the doorstep with his bags. This caused huge issues as we had to change our entire lives around to do the school run some half an hour away, take him to all his clubs, his friends houses. We both work full time and didn’t plan for this. Before this, my stepson had been over every weekend, so it was a massive lifestyle change. Eventually, his ex wife agreed that stepson could come and live with her again, and it’s been a 50% arrangement ever since.

In 2023, I got a promotion at work. I’m not sure how she found out (maybe LinkedIn, is all I can think?) but a couple of weeks later we had a fraudulent claim made against us via the CMS. She claimed that we never had stepson overnight and we became liable for massive payments which took months and a court order to eventually sort out. In the meantime, we were down thousands and have no way to get the money back, even though it was clear fraud.

Yesterday I announced my pregnancy, and today she has sent my fiancé a long email saying she is going to be reporting us to stepsons school and social services as she doesn’t think we are fit parents, this is despite her up until this point being happy for us to have stepson 50% of the time. We are good people, stepson loves his time here, this is just another attempt to disrupt our lives.

These are all the big things, intermingled in all of this is lots of crazy phone calls, texts, emails. I’m at my wits end. It’s causing huge arguments between me and my fiancé and I’ve reached the point of just wanting to leave and go it alone. I can’t cope with the near constant disruption and living on edge not knowing what she’s going to do next. I feel idiotic as I was warned from the beginning that she was crazy, but it wasn’t until we made major life decisions that she really became a massive disruptor in our lives.

OP posts:
Rosscameasdoody · 05/10/2024 22:01

Trillie · 05/10/2024 21:59

He sounds manipulative to me, he could have seen his child during lockdown but came up with excuses, and he sounds very keen to tell you how crazy his ex is. How many of these messages do you actually see? Few red flags there, to me.

Read the bloody thread. It was the ex who stopped him from seeing the child during lockdown.

susey · 05/10/2024 22:00

FuzzyGoblin · 05/10/2024 21:19

I’m guessing that when you break up and you become his second insane ex that you might have a greater understanding.

This nails it.

Reugny · 05/10/2024 21:59

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:32

Even if my DP was a shit dad, it still doesn’t justify her unhinged behaviour.

I’m assuming she knows what we’re doing as she stalks our social media and sends ranting emails shortly after anything significant happens in our lives. Or it could be completely coincidental (very doubtful).

Limit what you put on social media I did because of my DPs ex.

However thanks to all the faking going on I'm glad I did. Plus my DD has absolutely no social media presence what so ever from when she was born. This means DPs ex doesn't know what she looks like.

The couple of leaks that have happened have been quickly closed down.

My family understand why I don't want my child on social media in general without doing into specifics but her school continues to have problems with it.

Trillie · 05/10/2024 21:59

He sounds manipulative to me, he could have seen his child during lockdown but came up with excuses, and he sounds very keen to tell you how crazy his ex is. How many of these messages do you actually see? Few red flags there, to me.

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:59

I’m leaving this thread now. I was hoping to get practical advice from others who had been in this situation, instead it has almost exclusively become focussed on berating us for something that happened 4 years ago.

OP posts:
SophiaJ8 · 05/10/2024 21:59

rainbowunicorn · 05/10/2024 21:57

Yep, for some posters it really doesn't matter what a woman has done. Even when that woman has done the most awful things these posters will always manage to blame the man.

wHat dID hE dO To mAkE hEr cRazY

Rosscameasdoody · 05/10/2024 21:58

ChampaignSupernova · 05/10/2024 21:43

Why on earth did you send step son back if his mother is so unhinged? It must be really hard for a 12 year old having his stuff packed and dropped off at his dad's only for his dad and you to send him back as he is too inconvenient and now your having a baby. I understand you may not have been able to sort the clubs or it may have meant moving schools but if she's as bad as you say she is then surely that would have been the better option?

At 12 years old the child has a say.

rainbowunicorn · 05/10/2024 21:57

Golden407 · 05/10/2024 21:02

She explained the situation with the stepson. Honestly the mental gymnastics performed on this forum to blame man for everything are tiresome

Yep, for some posters it really doesn't matter what a woman has done. Even when that woman has done the most awful things these posters will always manage to blame the man.

Rosscameasdoody · 05/10/2024 21:57

Choochoo21 · 05/10/2024 21:47

Eventually, his ex wife agreed that stepson could come and live with her again, and it’s been a 50% arrangement ever since.

If he’s such a good dad then why couldn’t he be the residential parent long term?

Why was it ok for him to only see his son EOW but then when he was the RP he tried to persuade the ex to have him 50/50.

Why couldn’t the ex just see her son EOW like your DP had been doing for years?

It wasn’t EOW it was every weekend.

Reugny · 05/10/2024 21:53

Choochoo21 · 05/10/2024 21:51

He was seeing both parents.

He can live with his dad and still see his mum, just like he saw his dad when he lived with his mum.

He may not want to.

ForBetterForWorseOrNot · 05/10/2024 21:52

Court will likely laugh at her. She was happy with 50 50 for a long time and to pass her child over full time when it was convenient to her. I would be taking her to court for full custody and saying she is unstable.

Tonkerbea · 05/10/2024 21:52

Your poor stepson, being pulled back and forth.

Not your fault OP, but his parents have not put their son first in any of this.

If someone told me I couldn't see my child because of their interpretation of lockdown rules, I would have done more than blithely accept it.

ElleWoods15 · 05/10/2024 21:51

Korn4 · 05/10/2024 20:20

Do you really picture a happy future with your fiancé?? Sounds like a lot of drama.

If they had shared custody he definitely was allowed to see his child during that time. Did he choose not to?

Choochoo21 · 05/10/2024 21:51

Reugny · 05/10/2024 21:49

The child is 12.

If a 12 year old who had spent his life seeing both parents wants to continue to do so, then regardless of whether one parent acts unhinged towards the other, the Family Court isn't going to stop the child doing so.

He was seeing both parents.

He can live with his dad and still see his mum, just like he saw his dad when he lived with his mum.

Shyfrog · 05/10/2024 21:51

I feel sorry for you but more sorry for her because of her mental health issues and the trauma of her marriage ending

Reugny · 05/10/2024 21:50

Shadesofscarlett · 05/10/2024 21:49

seems odd that whenever anything happens in your life she finds out instantly. How is she finding all this out? Are you sure he is not still communicating stuff back to her on the quiet?

They tell the step-son and he tells his mother not realising she is batshit.

WalkingaroundJardine · 05/10/2024 21:49

If she has “always been unhinged” but your partner formed a relationship with her anyway and had a child with her, it was not a great decision on his part. Life now is part of the consequences of his choices made back then, even when the signs were there. It’s on him to deal with and resolve this, not you.

I would get him to create a separate email account for your DH to communicate with her and block her from everything else. My ex was a SM stalker too but it was quite easy to block him from everything and only communicate via email. I had to block him from texting and calling my phone too, as he would bombard it with angry messages.

Shadesofscarlett · 05/10/2024 21:49

seems odd that whenever anything happens in your life she finds out instantly. How is she finding all this out? Are you sure he is not still communicating stuff back to her on the quiet?

Reugny · 05/10/2024 21:49

Choochoo21 · 05/10/2024 21:47

Eventually, his ex wife agreed that stepson could come and live with her again, and it’s been a 50% arrangement ever since.

If he’s such a good dad then why couldn’t he be the residential parent long term?

Why was it ok for him to only see his son EOW but then when he was the RP he tried to persuade the ex to have him 50/50.

Why couldn’t the ex just see her son EOW like your DP had been doing for years?

The child is 12.

If a 12 year old who had spent his life seeing both parents wants to continue to do so, then regardless of whether one parent acts unhinged towards the other, the Family Court isn't going to stop the child doing so.

TheAlchemy · 05/10/2024 21:48

Oh I feel so sorry for this poor boy. Can you imagine anything more devastating that having all of your things packed up and left on someone’s doorstep. Poor kid this must have been utterly traumatic.

Is the current custody agreement court ordered? Why have you never reported her to the police?

As for her reporting you for being unfit parents. Why did she leave the DC on your doorstep if she was so concerned about your parenting ability? That one is very easy to counter.

I think you need to prepare yourself that once your baby is born you’re probably going to be getting false SS reports and all sorts. I’d be nipping this in the bud right now by getting the police involved with her.

I agree with PP you’d DP doesn’t sound like dad of the year or Prince Charming but your priority right now needs to be to protect yourself and your baby.

Marblesbackagain · 05/10/2024 21:47

Sux2buthen · 05/10/2024 21:46

They want to blame the man

Or they have basic common sense standards for parenting....

Reugny · 05/10/2024 21:47

ChampaignSupernova · 05/10/2024 21:43

Why on earth did you send step son back if his mother is so unhinged? It must be really hard for a 12 year old having his stuff packed and dropped off at his dad's only for his dad and you to send him back as he is too inconvenient and now your having a baby. I understand you may not have been able to sort the clubs or it may have meant moving schools but if she's as bad as you say she is then surely that would have been the better option?

The child is 12.

If a 12 year old wants to see either parent and they don't have any disabilities - then good luck stopping them.

Choochoo21 · 05/10/2024 21:47

Eventually, his ex wife agreed that stepson could come and live with her again, and it’s been a 50% arrangement ever since.

If he’s such a good dad then why couldn’t he be the residential parent long term?

Why was it ok for him to only see his son EOW but then when he was the RP he tried to persuade the ex to have him 50/50.

Why couldn’t the ex just see her son EOW like your DP had been doing for years?

Sux2buthen · 05/10/2024 21:46

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:17

Why the huge focus over lockdown? His mum also insisted stepson didn’t travel due to her elderly relative. They did weekly zooms, he sent gifts every week and saw him as soon as the draconian rules were lifted.

I’m not sure why everyone is focussing on this one potential slight of my partner, and not the multitude of nutty things his ex has done.

They want to blame the man

Marblesbackagain · 05/10/2024 21:46

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:32

Even if my DP was a shit dad, it still doesn’t justify her unhinged behaviour.

I’m assuming she knows what we’re doing as she stalks our social media and sends ranting emails shortly after anything significant happens in our lives. Or it could be completely coincidental (very doubtful).

Nope you can't backtrack now. He was a brilliant dad up until you actually told us the reality so what else isn't being shared.

Because the biggest thing that screams from this is he left his son with his so called crazy ex wife during a global pandemic. I couldn't even look at a person who behaved that way.

Good luck I have a funny feeling you will be the future crazy ex.