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Partner’s crazy ex wife.

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UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 20:17

I met my fiancé in 2019. He has one child with his ex wife. He told me from the beginning that his ex wife was unhinged, but I put it down to him using the phrase flippantly, and assumed he had probably done some wrongdoings in their marriage. His friends and family also used to mention how insane she is. I genuinely didn’t take much notice, as how many times as women have we been told about the ‘crazy ex’?

For the first year of dating, everything was fine. However, any time something big happens in our relationship (or any time to be honest) his ex does something nuts.

It first started in March 2020, when my partner and I decided to move in together as we didn’t want to spend lockdown alone. My fiancés ex sent him a huge rambling email, probably over 2000 words long, accusing him of being unsafe, killing vulnerable people, that we were terrible for breaking lockdown rules. We didn’t do anything to break the rules, other than combine our households. My fiancé obviously couldn’t see his child at this time due to Covid restrictions. Throughout lockdown, we had visits from the police who had been told we were having parties and flouting lockdown rules. We can’t be sure it was his ex wife, but we are pretty certain due to her earlier email, the fact it was all lies and nobody else would have any motivation.

In 2022 my fiance proposed to me, and the day after the proposal, she turned up at our door with my stepson and said that he was living with us from now on. No explanation, just turned up on the doorstep with his bags. This caused huge issues as we had to change our entire lives around to do the school run some half an hour away, take him to all his clubs, his friends houses. We both work full time and didn’t plan for this. Before this, my stepson had been over every weekend, so it was a massive lifestyle change. Eventually, his ex wife agreed that stepson could come and live with her again, and it’s been a 50% arrangement ever since.

In 2023, I got a promotion at work. I’m not sure how she found out (maybe LinkedIn, is all I can think?) but a couple of weeks later we had a fraudulent claim made against us via the CMS. She claimed that we never had stepson overnight and we became liable for massive payments which took months and a court order to eventually sort out. In the meantime, we were down thousands and have no way to get the money back, even though it was clear fraud.

Yesterday I announced my pregnancy, and today she has sent my fiancé a long email saying she is going to be reporting us to stepsons school and social services as she doesn’t think we are fit parents, this is despite her up until this point being happy for us to have stepson 50% of the time. We are good people, stepson loves his time here, this is just another attempt to disrupt our lives.

These are all the big things, intermingled in all of this is lots of crazy phone calls, texts, emails. I’m at my wits end. It’s causing huge arguments between me and my fiancé and I’ve reached the point of just wanting to leave and go it alone. I can’t cope with the near constant disruption and living on edge not knowing what she’s going to do next. I feel idiotic as I was warned from the beginning that she was crazy, but it wasn’t until we made major life decisions that she really became a massive disruptor in our lives.

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Marblesbackagain · 05/10/2024 22:46

CwmYoy · 05/10/2024 22:44

OP has left the thread so the man hating first wives club can STFU now.

Usual suspects out in force getting their jollies by piling more venom on a woman already in distress.

It happens time and time again here.

The ridiculous shapes people bend themselves into to apportion blame would be hilarious if they weren't intended to cause hurt.

What is the matter with some of you? Are you this vile in real life?

Not part of any club. But I am very worried that people's critical analysis skills are so low

CwmYoy · 05/10/2024 22:44

OP has left the thread so the man hating first wives club can STFU now.

Usual suspects out in force getting their jollies by piling more venom on a woman already in distress.

It happens time and time again here.

The ridiculous shapes people bend themselves into to apportion blame would be hilarious if they weren't intended to cause hurt.

What is the matter with some of you? Are you this vile in real life?

Marblesbackagain · 05/10/2024 22:43

Hang on let's be very clear.

Behaviour during COVID by dad was horrendous.

Alleges the ex was always crazy. So had child with crazy person, left child with crazy person and then icing on top didn't physically connect with child during COVID but knew he was with crazy ex.

Okay anyone really ready to believe that pile of crap?

@UpsetGirlx I am sorry but there's clearly two horrendous parents.

JohnofWessex · 05/10/2024 22:38

Sounds like your partner was married to my ex wife!

For what its worth although he was 18 when lockdown came my son and I didnt meet up much during the lockdown period because of Covid, funnily enough we went for some rather nice walk together.

So in addition to reporting the ex to The Police or sending a Solicitors letter I might add that you could make a formal complaint to the CMS about how they treated your partner, in particular they need to make sure that they have made a rational decision based on the information they have in front of them.

Any issues about where your step son lived should have been dealt with via a mandatory Reconsideration/Appeal Tribunal NOT a Child Arrangements Order. I suggest in particular you ask that they refund the costs you had going to court.

Funnily enough a few years after I left her a subsequent girlfriend of mine had a floor fitted by a fitter who lived in the hamlet where my ex wife and I had lived, she had remained there after and my successor had an equally interesting time.

The evening after the fitter had been round I got a call from her, 'You said your ex was a bit nuts not bloody mental' turned out she had assaulted her subsequent partner in the street.

Freshflower · 05/10/2024 22:37

Gather together all the emails, texts , record phone calls and report her for harassment and false allegations. She's the one that should be reported to social services, leaving her son with you the way she did , that should have been made aware of to social services and the school of his changed address. Once you report her for this and you have evidence it will be officially documented. Maybe organise stepson visting dad through a contact centre so none of you have to deal with eachother and just block her

justasking111 · 05/10/2024 22:28

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 20:58

He would love to block her on everything and just communicate via stepson but unfortunately she does things like call the police, make fraudulent claims to CMS, call social services… things they directly affect us and we can’t escape.

All those will be logged with the relevant authorities.

I think that family wizard sounds like a good idea for contact.

Katieistrying · 05/10/2024 22:25

Also COVID was a very difficult time.there we're alot of parents unsure if custody arrangements.your partner sounds a good man don't let the sniper comments bring you down. They don't know what you were going through.alot of children missed out on other parents through the general fear.it was such a strange time we were all doing our best including your partner for your stepson

Khanga27 · 05/10/2024 22:24

@UpsetGirlx I’m sorry you’ve had people focus on Covid period which is irrelevant to the behaviour of ex and to your situation now.
Any emails, texts, letters etc should be kept and shown to police to show the harassment your partner has faced. Even if you don’t want criminal proceedings, police can keep a log and perhaps discuss with the ex (I had a friend do this and the police had a conversation with the offending party as a warning without any charges). I would also keep to show to social services in case she does report. But def be proactive in contacting police.

stayathomer · 05/10/2024 22:23

I hate the word crazy in relation to an ex, surely losing someone who you had perceptions of growing old with, and watching them set up a new house would drive 90% of people irrational?

Katieistrying · 05/10/2024 22:20

Wow I have a very similar situation to you.it could read word for word.combining homes in lockdown...the family all saying the same, the back and forth using the kids as a bag dumping them off.the COVID situation what can and cannot be done. I'm mad at people victim shaming you on here .I too have been victim to a narcissistic ex wife. It's improved over the year's I taught my partner to have boundaries with her.bo social media.it ended up quite a few family court visits.only contacting via my family Wizard. I found step mum motivational ladies on Instagram. Alisha akrasho I think one is called she's Been a Life line for me. Currently the ex wife has taken up smoking weed and drinking like a teen-ager.whilst this impacts her 50-50 custody with the kids they are well in teens now. Because of the distraction of her New habits she's infringing on our house less. She tried to come round once to start something..it's never happened again. You can become super strong and equipped in your boundaries. Good luck girl I'm thinking of you.this story is so similar to my own with blended family issues

Noseybookworm · 05/10/2024 22:20

She's clearly a very difficult person to deal with and you have my sympathy OP. Unfortunately she is the person your partner chose to have a child with which means that he is likely going to have to deal with all her crazy shit until their son is an adult and probably to some extent after that 😕 I feel most sorry for the little boy at the centre of all this - I can't imagine the effect all this turmoil will have on him.

Psychologymam · 05/10/2024 22:18

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:15

He said she’s always been unhinged, but she was manageable and a good mum (his words). Since we started doing big things in our relationship she’s ramped it up to another level.

this is the most stereotypical statement in these scenarios - the ex is completely unhinged/crazy/insane…. But still a great mother so she’s grand to take care of my kids full time so I don’t need to - phew! I personally don’t know how those things equate, but just use a parenting app to communicate, document your concerns if you need to go to police etc and avoid all unnecessary contact. You can’t change her behaviour just manage your own.

Patienceinshortsupply · 05/10/2024 22:17

OP, you knew all of this was in the background yet you're going ahead with a pregnancy that will tie you to this man AND his son/ex for the rest of your life.

If you can't handle that, then for heaven's sake, don't have this baby. They were in his life before you, you can't erase that. There is a child trying to grow up amongst this shit Sad

Marblesbackagain · 05/10/2024 22:17

Rosscameasdoody · 05/10/2024 22:09

Ex wife was the one who stopped her son seeing his dad - she had contact with an elderly relative during covid and didn’t want him exposed.

Seriously? would you not see your child if the father said that to you. Because I know no mother not father who would.

I saw families in these circumstances but none not one went with that option.My children wouldn't have ever forgiven their father. Thankfully he didn't act like this dick.

No the ex shouldn't behave as told to us. But how reliable is the narrator? We had the father was amazing until he wasn't. Exactly how much of this is his telling.

Because I will be honest I wouldn't trust a parent with so low emotional intelligence as one to not fight tooth and nail to see their child.

Golden407 · 05/10/2024 22:15

bitsalty · 05/10/2024 21:05

@Golden407 someone starts a thread like this and surely it's natural to ask questions and not just follow without any doubt everything the OP says.

No mental gymnastics just going on what I've read and maybe reading between the lines a bit because the 'crazy ex' line is questioned for a very good reason.

Perhaps, If the sexes were reversed, if a woman came on here talking about how her ex was causing similar problems with her new partner, would you question her version of events and suggest she's at fault? I really don't think you would.

SophiaJ8 · 05/10/2024 22:15

In some circumstances CMS will expect a partner to pay more towards housing so that the parent can provide more maintenance. They look at the income of both partner and parent. I’ve seen it happen twice, and both times it was when the ex had got wind of the partner getting promotion/pay rise. CMS say that they don’t take a partners’ income into account but indirectly this is the same thing.

this is thankfully, utter nonsense

ARichtGoodDram · 05/10/2024 22:14

In some circumstances CMS will expect a partner to pay more towards housing so that the parent can provide more maintenance. They look at the income of both partner and parent. I’ve seen it happen twice, and both times it was when the ex had got wind of the partner getting promotion/pay rise. CMS say that they don’t take a partners’ income into account but indirectly this is the same thing.

That hasn't been the system for many years now.

NRP's don't get to make deductions for housing under the current system so their partners income is irrelevant. It's a straight percentage of income

Rosscameasdoody · 05/10/2024 22:13

susey · 05/10/2024 22:00

This nails it.

No, it doesn’t. It’s just more mental gymnastics to try to blame OP’s DH for the actions of his ex.

Rosscameasdoody · 05/10/2024 22:09

Marblesbackagain · 05/10/2024 21:46

Nope you can't backtrack now. He was a brilliant dad up until you actually told us the reality so what else isn't being shared.

Because the biggest thing that screams from this is he left his son with his so called crazy ex wife during a global pandemic. I couldn't even look at a person who behaved that way.

Good luck I have a funny feeling you will be the future crazy ex.

Ex wife was the one who stopped her son seeing his dad - she had contact with an elderly relative during covid and didn’t want him exposed.

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 05/10/2024 22:08

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:59

I’m leaving this thread now. I was hoping to get practical advice from others who had been in this situation, instead it has almost exclusively become focussed on berating us for something that happened 4 years ago.

@UpsetGirlx if he's worth the aggro from the ex then wait it out. It's stressful, and can feel like it will break you but you can get through it. My DH and I went through this 30 years ago from his ex, it almost broke us. But we refused to let it.

He was worth it. His ex is still absolutely nuts. To the level that on DSD's recent hen weekend her mum punched her in the face. Result? She was no longer invited to the wedding and the day went smoothly. We haven't seen ex in years. Only hear about her shenanigans from DSD, he has recently decided to go completely NC with her.

DSS is 12 OP, soon your OH won't need to communicate with ex about contact and all arrangements will be made directly with DSS. Keep your chin up and try to ignore her and her crazy antics, it's hard but you'll get through it. There is light at the end of the tunnel.

Apolitia · 05/10/2024 22:06

Hey op, sounds tough.

How does this all make you feel?

Like, how does it fit with what you thought you wanted growing up and how you see your life going forward. What kind of life do you want for yourself?

CraftyPlumViewer · 05/10/2024 22:02

Good shout, OP. Sorry you've been met with a tidal wave of loons.

Monkeysatonthewall · 05/10/2024 22:01

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:59

I’m leaving this thread now. I was hoping to get practical advice from others who had been in this situation, instead it has almost exclusively become focussed on berating us for something that happened 4 years ago.

So sorry OP.
I hope you find the answers you're looking for elsewhere ❤️

KendraTheVampyrSlayer · 05/10/2024 22:01

FuzzyGoblin · 05/10/2024 21:19

I’m guessing that when you break up and you become his second insane ex that you might have a greater understanding.

This is ridiculous! What OP is describing is batshit crazy level. No sane woman reacts to her ex getting with someone else by harassing him and his new partner!

CitizenZ · 05/10/2024 22:01

OP, Ignore the wazzocks on here that have no idea what it is like to have an unhinged ex. We had one. She was an absolute nightmare, and there are a lot of similarities to what you are going through now. I could write a book on what happened and how she tried to break us. We powered through, had a very shitty time, but that was many years ago. If you stay strong together, you might get to watch her shrivel with embarrassment when the child grows up and they have to face you at their Wedding, or the Christening of the children they have. You feel 10ft tall when they have no power, it's worth the wait.