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Partner’s crazy ex wife.

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UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 20:17

I met my fiancé in 2019. He has one child with his ex wife. He told me from the beginning that his ex wife was unhinged, but I put it down to him using the phrase flippantly, and assumed he had probably done some wrongdoings in their marriage. His friends and family also used to mention how insane she is. I genuinely didn’t take much notice, as how many times as women have we been told about the ‘crazy ex’?

For the first year of dating, everything was fine. However, any time something big happens in our relationship (or any time to be honest) his ex does something nuts.

It first started in March 2020, when my partner and I decided to move in together as we didn’t want to spend lockdown alone. My fiancés ex sent him a huge rambling email, probably over 2000 words long, accusing him of being unsafe, killing vulnerable people, that we were terrible for breaking lockdown rules. We didn’t do anything to break the rules, other than combine our households. My fiancé obviously couldn’t see his child at this time due to Covid restrictions. Throughout lockdown, we had visits from the police who had been told we were having parties and flouting lockdown rules. We can’t be sure it was his ex wife, but we are pretty certain due to her earlier email, the fact it was all lies and nobody else would have any motivation.

In 2022 my fiance proposed to me, and the day after the proposal, she turned up at our door with my stepson and said that he was living with us from now on. No explanation, just turned up on the doorstep with his bags. This caused huge issues as we had to change our entire lives around to do the school run some half an hour away, take him to all his clubs, his friends houses. We both work full time and didn’t plan for this. Before this, my stepson had been over every weekend, so it was a massive lifestyle change. Eventually, his ex wife agreed that stepson could come and live with her again, and it’s been a 50% arrangement ever since.

In 2023, I got a promotion at work. I’m not sure how she found out (maybe LinkedIn, is all I can think?) but a couple of weeks later we had a fraudulent claim made against us via the CMS. She claimed that we never had stepson overnight and we became liable for massive payments which took months and a court order to eventually sort out. In the meantime, we were down thousands and have no way to get the money back, even though it was clear fraud.

Yesterday I announced my pregnancy, and today she has sent my fiancé a long email saying she is going to be reporting us to stepsons school and social services as she doesn’t think we are fit parents, this is despite her up until this point being happy for us to have stepson 50% of the time. We are good people, stepson loves his time here, this is just another attempt to disrupt our lives.

These are all the big things, intermingled in all of this is lots of crazy phone calls, texts, emails. I’m at my wits end. It’s causing huge arguments between me and my fiancé and I’ve reached the point of just wanting to leave and go it alone. I can’t cope with the near constant disruption and living on edge not knowing what she’s going to do next. I feel idiotic as I was warned from the beginning that she was crazy, but it wasn’t until we made major life decisions that she really became a massive disruptor in our lives.

OP posts:
AGoingConcern · 06/10/2024 01:15

That may not be the case with your DP but you can't blame people for asking about it.

People aren't "asking about it." They're riding that dead fucking horse while ignoring OP's actual problem until OP has given up entirely.

OP was there at the time. She saw her partner put in a no-win situation, where he could either agree to the mother's ask to pause in-person visits or be framed as the asshole ex who didn't care about the life of her poor elderly grandparent. And they don't have a court-ordered custody agreement and the mum's was DS's primary residence, so the reality is the mother could have refused to allow visits anyways... by the time the dad could go through court proceedings to force visits lockdown would have been long over.

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 01:12

Tiredofallthis101 · 06/10/2024 01:06

OP I agree with others, just block her on everything except DP's mobile and just don't rise to the bait. Some people just like attention. She sounds a nightmare.

I do agree with others though that the lock down thing doesn't add up. A PP put it really well when she said how would you feel if your baby was at their dad's and you didn't know if you'd see them again for a long time, wouldn't you check the rules? I appreciate this feels a small piece of the puzzle to you and like people are getting fixated on something minor but often with abusive men it is all small signals that eventually add up to a full blown abuser - or just a selfish ahole. That may not be the case with your DP but you can't blame people for asking about it.

Personally, I don't think a man agreeing to suspend in-person visits at the request of the child's mother, to protect someone's health, and instead buying his child weekly gifts and doing zoom calls with them is all that abusive.

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 01:08

AutumnCrow · 06/10/2024 00:54

No-one else seems to have been in this situation, @UpsetGirlx, because the CMS really doesn't just 'believe' the resident parent about an absent parent's salary increasing - not without evidence. That's just not been posters' experience at all.

And this, as many posters have pointed out, is incorrect, so that's why posters didn't experience it:

'My fiancé obviously couldn’t see his child at this time due to Covid restrictions'

In such circumstances as you've described they tend also to stay off social media using real names and photographs.

So you seem to have been in a perfect storm of unusual, multiple circumstances. My practical advice would be for your DP to update his knowledge on his rights at all times, and stay off social media as far as possible.

No-one else seems to have been in this situation, because the CMS really doesn't just 'believe' the resident parent about an absent parent's salary increasing - not without evidence. That's just not been posters' experience at all.
But this isn't about a salary increase, it's about a change in the number of overnight stays (or an alleged change).

Mamabobogo · 06/10/2024 01:06

Yorkshiregal1 · 05/10/2024 20:44

Can your partner get one of those parenting apps like 'our family wizard' for communicating with his ex and then block her on everything else? And go to the police re harassment as PP have said.

This seems a good option.

Tiredofallthis101 · 06/10/2024 01:06

OP I agree with others, just block her on everything except DP's mobile and just don't rise to the bait. Some people just like attention. She sounds a nightmare.

I do agree with others though that the lock down thing doesn't add up. A PP put it really well when she said how would you feel if your baby was at their dad's and you didn't know if you'd see them again for a long time, wouldn't you check the rules? I appreciate this feels a small piece of the puzzle to you and like people are getting fixated on something minor but often with abusive men it is all small signals that eventually add up to a full blown abuser - or just a selfish ahole. That may not be the case with your DP but you can't blame people for asking about it.

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 00:56

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 00:53

No thanks. I've looked at every thread you posted in with the word "lockdown" and couldn't find a single one where one parent was seeking to prevent contact (for whatever reason) for the duration of lockdown.

And even if there was a thread with these exact same circumstances and you thought the non-resident parent should somehow force contact, I doubt half of the posters who are now condemning the OP's DP for acquescing to the wishes of the child's mother would have done so at the time.

You are wrong because plenty of us fought hard on many a thread to ensure children had access generally to their dads.

My point still stands no parent who is worth their salt would never have sacrificed access.

AutumnCrow · 06/10/2024 00:54

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:59

I’m leaving this thread now. I was hoping to get practical advice from others who had been in this situation, instead it has almost exclusively become focussed on berating us for something that happened 4 years ago.

No-one else seems to have been in this situation, @UpsetGirlx, because the CMS really doesn't just 'believe' the resident parent about an absent parent's salary increasing - not without evidence. That's just not been posters' experience at all.

And this, as many posters have pointed out, is incorrect, so that's why posters didn't experience it:

'My fiancé obviously couldn’t see his child at this time due to Covid restrictions'

In such circumstances as you've described they tend also to stay off social media using real names and photographs.

So you seem to have been in a perfect storm of unusual, multiple circumstances. My practical advice would be for your DP to update his knowledge on his rights at all times, and stay off social media as far as possible.

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 00:53

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 00:47

Look harder there were plenty.

No thanks. I've looked at every thread you posted in with the word "lockdown" and couldn't find a single one where one parent was seeking to prevent contact (for whatever reason) for the duration of lockdown.

And even if there was a thread with these exact same circumstances and you thought the non-resident parent should somehow force contact, I doubt half of the posters who are now condemning the OP's DP for acquescing to the wishes of the child's mother would have done so at the time.

XChrome · 06/10/2024 00:52

I don't know the law on this in the UK, but it sounds like he has a solid case to sue her for harassment. He needs to gather up all the evidence he has (emails and texts, I hope he kept them) and engage a lawyer to send her a cease and desist warning letter. Often that alone will do the trick.
If it doesn't work he can then decide if he wants to take her to court. It's his problem to solve, not yours. If he won't do anything about it, you'll then need to decide if you want to stay in this relationship.

Rain11 · 06/10/2024 00:49

I went through something similar for 10 years.

He needs to communicate with her only when strictly necessary. Short conversations only, straight to the point and if possible by email, no personal call, whatsapp, social media or messages. Keep records of everything.

Try to avoid mentioning things you wouldn't want her to know in front of the kid if at all possible.

Don't allow her antics to interfere in your personal life. I know how difficult it is, believe me. Try your best to keep her out of your life as much as possible.This situation is temporary.

If you are arguing with your partner because of her, she is achieving exactly what she wants. The last thing she wants is for you two to be happy, so try your best to set things in place so you can live your best life. The kid is 12, and he won't remain a kid forever. The little power she has over you has an expiry date.

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 00:47

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 00:44

I couldn't find a relevant thread you posted on I'm afraid.

Look harder there were plenty.

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 00:44

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 00:32

No and I commented on plenty of threads at the time saying the same. My previous account name was marblessolveeverything so you can verify.

I couldn't find a relevant thread you posted on I'm afraid.

BlackShuck3 · 06/10/2024 00:40

This woman sounds a bit psycho-nuts to me😐 I dont like the sound of her @UpsetGirlx
Do you think there is a way to get her to pipe down?

Purposefullyporous · 06/10/2024 00:33

RunningOutOfImaginitiveUsernames · 05/10/2024 23:38

I'm so sorry you had to deal with that. I lost so much weight I was painfully thin and would feel sick when a notification tone went off on my phone (the years before people switched to vibrate!) so would regularly change it.

Yes I understand. I actually got rid of my mobile phone during getting the restraining order when i was pregnant, and didn't get one again until my son started school.

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 00:33

Parental contact comes before every single thing in my book.

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 00:32

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 00:30

No doubt if the dad posted at the time of the first lockdown "My son primarily lives with his mother, I usually see him on weekends but she wants to suspend contact during lockdown because she regularly visits an elderly relative and wants to minimize the risk of exposure - should I overrule her and force visits?" everyone would have been siding with the Ex then too.

No and I commented on plenty of threads at the time saying the same. My previous account name was marblessolveeverything so you can verify.

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 00:30

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 00:19

If you don't view actually seeing hugging them while the world is gone to shit. Yes I am proud to say I judge that parent as shit no excuse.

No doubt if the dad posted at the time of the first lockdown "My son primarily lives with his mother, I usually see him on weekends but she wants to suspend contact during lockdown because she regularly visits an elderly relative and wants to minimize the risk of exposure - should I overrule her and force visits?" everyone would have been siding with the Ex then too.

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 00:19

Greencustard · 05/10/2024 23:17

Horrendous? Behave. Some of the dramatics on here are outrageous.

OP there's no point posting as a step-mum on Mumsnet these days. It doesn't matter the facts. Every single thread started by a step-mum goes the same way. If you hadn't given them the nugget about covid, they would have found another angle to berate you from.

If you don't view actually seeing hugging them while the world is gone to shit. Yes I am proud to say I judge that parent as shit no excuse.

Greencustard · 06/10/2024 00:11

AGoingConcern · 06/10/2024 00:00

Ok.

So your logic is that because he aquiesced to the mother of his child's request not to suspend in-person visitation for (at most) a couple of months four years ago rather than fighting her on it, the mother is therefore forever in the right to harrass him and his pregnant fiance, make malicious allegations, and suddenly tell her young child he can't live with her at all anymore on a whim?

Edited

Seems there's more than a few with this logic on the thread. The fact they don't even mention ex's behaviour is very telling.

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 00:10

TakeMeDancing · 06/10/2024 00:05

Nope.

I was responding to why people were so focussed on why he didn’t see his kid for months.

But why? It's irrelevant to the problem the OP is now facing and doesn't in anyway excuse the ex making frivolous police reports and false claims.

Even though the rules would not have prevented him from seeing his child, it's obvious that the ex didn't want to allow visits (and, to be fair, actually had a good reason).

If he was buying weekly gifts and doing zoom calls, it's obvious he wasn't checked out and that he was thinking of and missing his child.

AGoingConcern · 06/10/2024 00:08

TakeMeDancing · 06/10/2024 00:05

Nope.

I was responding to why people were so focussed on why he didn’t see his kid for months.

They're harping on something that is ultimately irrelevant to the ex's unacceptable behavior rather than address OP's dilemma because they want an excuse to turn every man and second wife into pantomime villian.

TakeMeDancing · 06/10/2024 00:05

AGoingConcern · 06/10/2024 00:00

Ok.

So your logic is that because he aquiesced to the mother of his child's request not to suspend in-person visitation for (at most) a couple of months four years ago rather than fighting her on it, the mother is therefore forever in the right to harrass him and his pregnant fiance, make malicious allegations, and suddenly tell her young child he can't live with her at all anymore on a whim?

Edited

Nope.

I was responding to why people were so focussed on why he didn’t see his kid for months.

AGoingConcern · 06/10/2024 00:00

TakeMeDancing · 05/10/2024 23:46

Because he didn’t refer to the proper channels (BBC website, daily PM briefings, gov.uk website) to research the actual rules. Instead, he took Covid advice from someone who you describe as “unhinged”, took it at face value, didn’t do any actual research of the rules himself, and missed months of contact with his child.

Ok.

So your logic is that because he aquiesced to the mother of his child's request not to suspend in-person visitation for (at most) a couple of months four years ago rather than fighting her on it, the mother is therefore forever in the right to harrass him and his pregnant fiance, make malicious allegations, and suddenly tell her young child he can't live with her at all anymore on a whim?

TakeMeDancing · 05/10/2024 23:46

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 21:17

Why the huge focus over lockdown? His mum also insisted stepson didn’t travel due to her elderly relative. They did weekly zooms, he sent gifts every week and saw him as soon as the draconian rules were lifted.

I’m not sure why everyone is focussing on this one potential slight of my partner, and not the multitude of nutty things his ex has done.

Because he didn’t refer to the proper channels (BBC website, daily PM briefings, gov.uk website) to research the actual rules. Instead, he took Covid advice from someone who you describe as “unhinged”, took it at face value, didn’t do any actual research of the rules himself, and missed months of contact with his child.