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Partner’s crazy ex wife.

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UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 20:17

I met my fiancé in 2019. He has one child with his ex wife. He told me from the beginning that his ex wife was unhinged, but I put it down to him using the phrase flippantly, and assumed he had probably done some wrongdoings in their marriage. His friends and family also used to mention how insane she is. I genuinely didn’t take much notice, as how many times as women have we been told about the ‘crazy ex’?

For the first year of dating, everything was fine. However, any time something big happens in our relationship (or any time to be honest) his ex does something nuts.

It first started in March 2020, when my partner and I decided to move in together as we didn’t want to spend lockdown alone. My fiancés ex sent him a huge rambling email, probably over 2000 words long, accusing him of being unsafe, killing vulnerable people, that we were terrible for breaking lockdown rules. We didn’t do anything to break the rules, other than combine our households. My fiancé obviously couldn’t see his child at this time due to Covid restrictions. Throughout lockdown, we had visits from the police who had been told we were having parties and flouting lockdown rules. We can’t be sure it was his ex wife, but we are pretty certain due to her earlier email, the fact it was all lies and nobody else would have any motivation.

In 2022 my fiance proposed to me, and the day after the proposal, she turned up at our door with my stepson and said that he was living with us from now on. No explanation, just turned up on the doorstep with his bags. This caused huge issues as we had to change our entire lives around to do the school run some half an hour away, take him to all his clubs, his friends houses. We both work full time and didn’t plan for this. Before this, my stepson had been over every weekend, so it was a massive lifestyle change. Eventually, his ex wife agreed that stepson could come and live with her again, and it’s been a 50% arrangement ever since.

In 2023, I got a promotion at work. I’m not sure how she found out (maybe LinkedIn, is all I can think?) but a couple of weeks later we had a fraudulent claim made against us via the CMS. She claimed that we never had stepson overnight and we became liable for massive payments which took months and a court order to eventually sort out. In the meantime, we were down thousands and have no way to get the money back, even though it was clear fraud.

Yesterday I announced my pregnancy, and today she has sent my fiancé a long email saying she is going to be reporting us to stepsons school and social services as she doesn’t think we are fit parents, this is despite her up until this point being happy for us to have stepson 50% of the time. We are good people, stepson loves his time here, this is just another attempt to disrupt our lives.

These are all the big things, intermingled in all of this is lots of crazy phone calls, texts, emails. I’m at my wits end. It’s causing huge arguments between me and my fiancé and I’ve reached the point of just wanting to leave and go it alone. I can’t cope with the near constant disruption and living on edge not knowing what she’s going to do next. I feel idiotic as I was warned from the beginning that she was crazy, but it wasn’t until we made major life decisions that she really became a massive disruptor in our lives.

OP posts:
SophiaJ8 · 06/10/2024 07:32

I'm not defending the actions of the mother

Good, because there’s no defence for her. Vile.

Willyoujustbequiet · 06/10/2024 07:31

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 03:46

Sorry, you think the "deadbeat" here is the parent who agreed to forego weekend visits for 3 months during lockdown, at the request of the child's mother?

The same dad who had sole custody of the child when his mother abandoned him?

Yes who didn't see his child for months when he was perfectly able to as everybody and their granny knew it was allowed but he never bothered to check. Wild horses wouldn't have stopped me seeing my child and judging by the responses most people feel the same.

Previously seeing him at weekends only as disney dads often do leaving the ex to do all the weekly donkey work such as school runs.

Persuading the ex who he claims is unhinged and crazy to take the child back 50/50. Who the hell sends a child back to be with someone they think is crazy? Because it suited him to put his needs before that of his child.

I'm not defending the actions of the mother. The poor kid clearly has 2 shit parents.

Babyenroute · 06/10/2024 06:48

I know not the point in this thread and she does sound nuts but there is no way wild horses or a rule could drag my husband away from our son, so it's extremely odd he didn't see him in Covid, could have done it in the safest way possible . I also feel really sad that she dropped him off with all his bags to live in a new house and no one really wanted him with them. He must have felt so sad and unwanted 😔

mathanxiety · 06/10/2024 04:58

Take the evidence of malicious reporting to social services straight to the police.

MsCactus · 06/10/2024 04:28

UpsetGirlx · 05/10/2024 20:58

He would love to block her on everything and just communicate via stepson but unfortunately she does things like call the police, make fraudulent claims to CMS, call social services… things they directly affect us and we can’t escape.

I think you need to report this to the police as harassment. Also if she is blocked on all your social media she won't be able to find out about your life updates and react

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 03:46

Willyoujustbequiet · 06/10/2024 03:41

This

The perpetual excuses made for deadbeat fathers never cease to amaze me. I'll never understand why some women set their bar so low.

Sorry, you think the "deadbeat" here is the parent who agreed to forego weekend visits for 3 months during lockdown, at the request of the child's mother?

The same dad who had sole custody of the child when his mother abandoned him?

Willyoujustbequiet · 06/10/2024 03:41

Marblesbackagain · 05/10/2024 22:46

Not part of any club. But I am very worried that people's critical analysis skills are so low

This

The perpetual excuses made for deadbeat fathers never cease to amaze me. I'll never understand why some women set their bar so low.

AGoingConcern · 06/10/2024 02:34

Sleepydoor · 06/10/2024 02:25

I agree it was terrible -- so why would her DH convince his ex to take his son back full time? Why wouldn't he prioritize his son and ensure his son had a stable home? It don't understand it.

He didn't. Read again, they went to 50/50 custody at that point. And he likely did that because she's the child's mother who he had primarily lived with his entire life and allowing her to completely abandon him would in itself be incredibly harmful. It's the same reason courts prioritize keeping both parents in the child's life unless that's clearly outweighed by abuse.

There wasn't a good option here.

TammyJones · 06/10/2024 02:32

@justasking111
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Friends ex was a seesaw depending on how much she had drunk that day. It was awful for the four children, who eventually abandoned her as adults.*

It Is sad isn't it.
Dh ex ( who I mostly got on with ) is the same.
Of her 3 children- one born from another marriage - she has only the very briefest contact with one child only. - birthday/ Christmas.

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 02:30

Sleepydoor · 06/10/2024 02:25

I agree it was terrible -- so why would her DH convince his ex to take his son back full time? Why wouldn't he prioritize his son and ensure his son had a stable home? It don't understand it.

I suppose we don't know as the harpies have successfully bullied the OP out of the thread, but there could be any number of explanations- including that the kid missed his mum.

Sleepydoor · 06/10/2024 02:25

AGoingConcern · 06/10/2024 02:21

They were "put out" because it was an unbelievably awful thing for a mother to do to her child.

She packed up her young child's belongings, plopped them on her ex's doorstep and told the ex (AND HER CHILD) that the child suddenly wasn't allowed to live in her home anymore. OP and her husband didn't have weekday childcare or transportation planned and were thus scrambling to minimize disruption to this poor child's life after his mother had chosen to upend it for her own ends.

I agree it was terrible -- so why would her DH convince his ex to take his son back full time? Why wouldn't he prioritize his son and ensure his son had a stable home? It don't understand it.

TammyJones · 06/10/2024 02:23

CwmYoy · 05/10/2024 22:44

OP has left the thread so the man hating first wives club can STFU now.

Usual suspects out in force getting their jollies by piling more venom on a woman already in distress.

It happens time and time again here.

The ridiculous shapes people bend themselves into to apportion blame would be hilarious if they weren't intended to cause hurt.

What is the matter with some of you? Are you this vile in real life?

I agree with this.
It was the ex pulling the stop in covid. How many times does op have to repeat this.
Covid was a very difficult time and rules were blurred and ignored in equal measure

AGoingConcern · 06/10/2024 02:21

Sleepydoor · 06/10/2024 02:12

I've read the OP's follow ups. It's not clear to me at all. I also don't understand why the OP and her DH were so put out by the ex wife "leaving her son" with them full time. It sounds like the stepson is a pawn in the ex-wife's game, but it also sounds like her DH was happy to start a new family with someone and his son was not his priority in all this.

They were "put out" because it was an unbelievably awful thing for a mother to do to her child.

She packed up her young child's belongings, plopped them on her ex's doorstep and told the ex (AND HER CHILD) that the child suddenly wasn't allowed to live in her home anymore. OP and her husband didn't have weekday childcare or transportation planned and were thus scrambling to minimize disruption to this poor child's life after his mother had chosen to upend it for her own ends.

BlueFlowers5 · 06/10/2024 02:17

Can your DP consider seeking a harassment prevention order?

TammyJones · 06/10/2024 02:12

CitizenZ · 05/10/2024 22:01

OP, Ignore the wazzocks on here that have no idea what it is like to have an unhinged ex. We had one. She was an absolute nightmare, and there are a lot of similarities to what you are going through now. I could write a book on what happened and how she tried to break us. We powered through, had a very shitty time, but that was many years ago. If you stay strong together, you might get to watch her shrivel with embarrassment when the child grows up and they have to face you at their Wedding, or the Christening of the children they have. You feel 10ft tall when they have no power, it's worth the wait.

Agree.
The time comes and it's wonderful and I'm coming from this from both sides and actually got on well with ex's / new partners.

Sleepydoor · 06/10/2024 02:12

AGoingConcern · 06/10/2024 01:54

No, you've misunderstood, and presumably not read OP's follow ups. The DS was already not coming over to dad's at the mother's say so.

The first statement is in reference to an anonymous person (suspected to be the ex) reporting OP and her partner to the police for having parties during lockdown. But OP and DP were not having parties or socializing outside their households or otherwise breaking rules, they just combined their households into one and observed restrictions from there. The reports were just harrassment.

The DS not coming over was mentioned here to show there wasn't some valid concern on the mother's part that doing so was risking her, her son or her family that justified her making the reports.

I've read the OP's follow ups. It's not clear to me at all. I also don't understand why the OP and her DH were so put out by the ex wife "leaving her son" with them full time. It sounds like the stepson is a pawn in the ex-wife's game, but it also sounds like her DH was happy to start a new family with someone and his son was not his priority in all this.

AGoingConcern · 06/10/2024 01:54

Sleepydoor · 06/10/2024 01:37

We didn’t do anything to break the rules, other than combine our households. My fiancé obviously couldn’t see his child at this time due to Covid restrictions.

Sorry, I couldn't get past this. He could have seen his child if he hadn't combined households with you?

No, you've misunderstood, and presumably not read OP's follow ups. The DS was already not coming over to dad's at the mother's say so.

The first statement is in reference to an anonymous person (suspected to be the ex) reporting OP and her partner to the police for having parties during lockdown. But OP and DP were not having parties or socializing outside their households or otherwise breaking rules, they just combined their households into one and observed restrictions from there. The reports were just harrassment.

The DS not coming over was mentioned here to show there wasn't some valid concern on the mother's part that doing so was risking her, her son or her family that justified her making the reports.

Sleepydoor · 06/10/2024 01:51

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 01:41

No, nothing to do with combining households.

The Ex told the OP's DP that it was against the rules for him to see his son (which it was not) and also that he couldn't see him because she had to visit a vulnerable family member. During the period of no in-person contact, the OP's DP did video calls and bought weekly gifts for his son.

Ah. I'm not in the UK but where I am you had to stay in bubbles at certain points, so it sounded like they were saying their DH chose to bubble with her children rather than his own. (ie he could have stayed living alone and then see his kids but chose instead to live with her and her kids).

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 01:46

Greencustard · 06/10/2024 01:39

The mother wanted to protect a relative. It was her decision. Why are you not condemning her? How was the father supposed to change that? Go to a solicitor, drag her to court? Please explain how he could do these things when the entire world had shut down.

Yes I would and saw fathers go to court to maintain their childs access. Plenty did courts were in zoom here.

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 01:41

Sleepydoor · 06/10/2024 01:37

We didn’t do anything to break the rules, other than combine our households. My fiancé obviously couldn’t see his child at this time due to Covid restrictions.

Sorry, I couldn't get past this. He could have seen his child if he hadn't combined households with you?

No, nothing to do with combining households.

The Ex told the OP's DP that it was against the rules for him to see his son (which it was not) and also that he couldn't see him because she had to visit a vulnerable family member. During the period of no in-person contact, the OP's DP did video calls and bought weekly gifts for his son.

Greencustard · 06/10/2024 01:39

Marblesbackagain · 06/10/2024 00:19

If you don't view actually seeing hugging them while the world is gone to shit. Yes I am proud to say I judge that parent as shit no excuse.

The mother wanted to protect a relative. It was her decision. Why are you not condemning her? How was the father supposed to change that? Go to a solicitor, drag her to court? Please explain how he could do these things when the entire world had shut down.

Sleepydoor · 06/10/2024 01:37

We didn’t do anything to break the rules, other than combine our households. My fiancé obviously couldn’t see his child at this time due to Covid restrictions.

Sorry, I couldn't get past this. He could have seen his child if he hadn't combined households with you?

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 01:36

Tiredofallthis101 · 06/10/2024 01:31

@AGoingConcern I didn't say he was abusive, I said you can understand why people are asking about small things. I also think you and others are making stuff up - the OP said they didn't know the rules and thought he wasn't allowed to see the child. She didn't say the mother pushed the dad not to see the kid until after people called her out on it. You are choosing to see the good. Others are choosing to see the bad. My point was merely that all people have to go on is often small pieces of the thread that may or may not lead to an accurate conclusion.

Ah so the OP is a liar?

Tiredofallthis101 · 06/10/2024 01:31

@AGoingConcern I didn't say he was abusive, I said you can understand why people are asking about small things. I also think you and others are making stuff up - the OP said they didn't know the rules and thought he wasn't allowed to see the child. She didn't say the mother pushed the dad not to see the kid until after people called her out on it. You are choosing to see the good. Others are choosing to see the bad. My point was merely that all people have to go on is often small pieces of the thread that may or may not lead to an accurate conclusion.

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 01:18

AGoingConcern · 06/10/2024 01:15

That may not be the case with your DP but you can't blame people for asking about it.

People aren't "asking about it." They're riding that dead fucking horse while ignoring OP's actual problem until OP has given up entirely.

OP was there at the time. She saw her partner put in a no-win situation, where he could either agree to the mother's ask to pause in-person visits or be framed as the asshole ex who didn't care about the life of her poor elderly grandparent. And they don't have a court-ordered custody agreement and the mum's was DS's primary residence, so the reality is the mother could have refused to allow visits anyways... by the time the dad could go through court proceedings to force visits lockdown would have been long over.

Edited

Amen.