So if your friend lost 5 stone in 6 months .. would you wonder how ?

Unfortunately that will never happen. Big pharma will be there waiting for all the obese people with their wonder drugs which cause even more disease and illness. It's an evil circle of profit they've created.

It's really not that hard and stop fetishizing food.

The govt and media need to heed this warning - that's where the food fetish stems from. Check most ads. TV, billboard, online, etc. They know things are dangerous - they advertise and sell them cheap, then tell you they're dangerous and you shouldn't get them. It's like playing chess with people's willpower and laughing at the result while making money. Awful!

Stop berating those who've fallen for it and focus on the people who're using them as puppets. Atleast obese people are trying to find a way to solve the willpower problem.

Everyone who has taken the momentous decision to pay for this healthcare and save the nhs FORTUNES should get this for free once they're in the healthy weight band

End of.

I am doing this. I will not be able to afford this forever. I am insanely weight loss resistant, I am well under 5 foot.

I spent £17000 on a sleeve gastrectomy when I hit menopause. I was starving, I had been restricting for decades to 1300 calories, I have willpower beyond belief. I put up with being hungry every moment of every day. I was 5 stone overweight.

The gastric sleeve took me down to not being hungry on 1000 calories.

I lost 5 stone. I stopped losing. I was still overweight.

Mounjaro has taken me down to 600-800 calories without hunger. I have lost a further 2 stone.

I still need to lose 2 stone to get to 23 bmi, 7 stone. Bang in the middle of acceptable for my height.

I will need this drug forever. Or I will be hungry on 600 calories. I cannot cope with being hungry and putting weight on.

Every member of my family has died with obesity and heart disease, younger than they're supposed to have done. My mother at 61, father 63, grandparents 54, 66.

The nhs will SAVE MONEY OVERALL giving me this drug

This drug means I can walk 10 miles a day, have masses of energy. Run a team in the nhs, work full time

I am worth living without the threat of obesity because I happen to be (normally) hungry when I can only eat 600 calories.

Fasting is the best way to lose weight. There is so much misinformation about food it is quite ridiculous. Stop eating refined carbohydrates and fast 2 or 3 days a week. It's really not that hard and stop fetishizing food.

OP is most likely an ad.

Clickbait title that bears no relation to the content.
Posts are even more advertisement for the drug - both her friend and her lost weight in a short space of time with little effort.
'Amazing', 'incredible', 'new found sense of self confidence'
Both her friend and her did not have side effects.
Cost of the drug is 189 per month without discount (no doubt there will be a discount)
OP did not even need a maintenance dose.
So great she even wants to buy it for her friend.

What's not to like?

Did you miss my earlier post asking you where the information is that these drugs are very dangerous? I assume you are posting out of sincere concern and want to help people not harm themselves so sharing the information you have would be very useful.

I agree with you. Where people are morbidly obese and have tried every avenue, it is probably worth the risk under the supervision of a GP and with the emphasis that the 600 calories eaten must be highly nutritional. Please don't get me wrong. I really hope this treatment is effective and allows them to quickly no longer need the medication and lead a full and healthy life.

But I take huge exception to a company bypassing advertising standards to peddle a drug indiscriminately for free, conveniently omitting the side effects or risks.

If this happens with a product, which on the face of it should be hugely successful in its own right and not require this type of back-handed dealing, then someone is going after short term profits and those type of people unfortunately care not one jot about the patients or their long term health.

Except most of those drugs aren't 1 year old. Nothing is known about the long term risks and benefits because the data simply does not exist. The statement that the drug can cause organ failure and cancer is true. Injecting yourself with this drug to lose weight is a horrible solution.

It isn't simple, PrincessofWells knows that! Why so many people are overweight is the CONSTANT suggestion of food's deliciousness in society today, and the easy to eat phenomena. That is why so many people are overweight, that and they simply can't get or don't have the fortitude to stop eating, start exercising, and quit focusing on food as entertainment. We won't live in a physically challenging world anymore. Agree with PrincessofWells, that the formula for getting and staying at a good weight is "simple" but getting oneself to DO what it take is quite the opposite. For example: once I was full grown at age 17 I weighed 150 pounds and was a US size 8-10; 5'7". With EACH pregnancy I gained: 30lb; 40lb; 50lb; 70lb. I lost all the weight after each pregnancy. How? I stopped eating by 1/2-3/4 and began rigorous exercise after childbirth recovery of 6 weeks. When I got divorced at 59 (after a 30 yr marriage) I found I weighed 170 lbs rather than my "ideal" 150; stress caused me to gain weight. What did I do? I stopped eating 1/2-3/4 and began rigorous exercise. I got back down to 150. It isn't EASY to lose weight; it IS however, simple. Diet and exercise, change eating lifestyle. I never touch white bread, butter, sugar BECAUSE my brain loves them like some addicts love cocaine or heroine. Food can become an addiction, but it is no excuse to NOT eat right, what is good for you and to exercise nearly every day. We must do this or die a slow, painful death.

Except most of those drugs aren't 1 year old. Nothing is known about the long term risks and benefits because the data simply does not exist. The statement that the drug can cause organ failure and cancer is true. Injecting yourself with this drug to lose weight is a horrible solution.

Any use of medication is about weighing the possible risks and the possible benefits. Obesity has it's own long term risks which can include early death. From WHO long term effects of obesity include, cardiovascular disease (mainly heart disease and stroke), type 2 diabetes, musculoskeletal disorders like osteoarthritis, and some cancers (endometrial, breast and colon)

People all over the world are on medications that have potentially horrible side effects including possible death because it is safer and better for them to take those risks then to face the risks from not taking the medication. A statement like this is worthless, you need to look at the studies and the underlying data and compare outcomes at a population level plus look at the specific instances in which these side effects have occurred and whether they were caused in part by comorbidity as a long term outcome of the very reason the person was taking the medication.

It's definitely more difficult to go the market buy basic fresh veg and then to the supermarket for fish (expensive) or meat. Its time consuming.

But this is how everyone used to eat and the clue might be there was very little ultra processed food around 45 years ago and nearly everyone was slim (not necessarily healthier due to other causes).

Any use of medication is about weighing the possible risks and the possible benefits. Obesity has it's own long term risks which can include early death. From WHO long term effects of obesity include, cardiovascular disease (mainly heart disease and stroke), type 2 diabetes, musculoskeletal disorders like osteoarthritis, and some cancers (endometrial, breast and colon)

People all over the world are on medications that have potentially horrible side effects including possible death because it is safer and better for them to take those risks then to face the risks from not taking the medication. A statement like this is worthless, you need to look at the studies and the underlying data and compare outcomes at a population level plus look at the specific instances in which these side effects have occurred and whether they were caused in part by comorbidity as a long term outcome of the very reason the person was taking the medication.

We are nearly at the end of 2024. So you could have had it. You could ah e missed having in yeh last 2 years.

So the house you run, you run it with another adult. Funny how your ‘study of one’ failed to mention him.

If you can afford to be cooked for while you work away, you are in a more fortune position than most people. Which is what is said.

Yes you did say that. I said that not everyone can afford or have the time to do locally sourced seasonal produce and high quality protein. You came back with your study of one proved it could be done because you did it. All whilst failing to mention that you have another adult and another income.

You left him out on purpose. Your study of one post was designed to make it look like you managed this hectic lifestyle so everyone could. You mentioned that you got no outside help though. Funny that. Fact is you likely have a much higher household income than most people AND you also have another income AND adult helping with all those things you claimed just you did.

So my point stands. Most people do not have the finances and time to be able to eat high quality protein and locally sourced seasonal vegetables and fruit. You, in your provided position, are able to. You are not the representative of the cast majority of people, completely out of touch and enjoy trying to manipulate people by presenting yourself in certain ways to attempt to prove a point.