So if your friend lost 5 stone in 6 months .. would you wonder how ?

I can’t see how it wouldn’t be extremely awkward to offer her money. You know her better than anyone here but needing to ask on here suggests you think it’s risky.

Surely if it's only £45 a week then it's just the weekly food shop money that you're saving by eating less going on the medication instead?

No, I think it would be unwise to make this offer, which might be enthusiastically accepted to start with but have unpredictable consequences for your friendship. Just be a great friend and support, in good times and bad.

Whoah, and no one has ever been this simplistic about it before, ever. Well done. Everyone who reads this is having a revelation.

Yes, absolutely, obesity is caused by putting too much of the wrong foods in your body, obviously, but the reasons people do it, and are so reliant on it, are far more complex. And you can’t ever go cold turkey.

Well I don't eat crap, never have 🤷‍♀️

For thirty years while dieting I ate 1300 calories of a Mediterranean diet

Then after the sleeve gastrectomy I ate 1000 calories of a Mediterranean diet

Now on Mounjaro I eat 2 chicken breasts and Greek salad for my 600 calories every day. I need to stay on this forever - once I lose the weight I might be lucky and can maintain at 800 calories

I've eaten the same way since I started dieting when I was 20 - no upfs, no interest in bad food

I'm just short, slight thyroid issues, syndrome x. Just very weight loss resistant.

What if you offered half? That way it's still part on her in terms of decision making and working towards eventually coming off but without the cliff edge?

If you are going to offer I would present it as 'I've been so impressed with the progress you've made. Can I help you sustain it'.

Obesity is caused by eating too much, eating ultra processed foods, and generally by a poor diet.

The jury is out on the causes of adhd and dyslexia. We know that depression is often down to serotonin and chemical imbalances. But we do know the causes of obesity. You need an off button, self discipline and to take personal responsibility for your own health by controlling what you eat.

So don't keep bullshitting people that obesity is anything other than overeating. That is exactly what it is.

And what do you think the long term health outcomes are for people with obesity? What meds may they end up having to take for life instead? What impact does obesity have on the nhs?

Why do you think they can stay consistently in a calorie deficit with the drug when for decades they’ve not been able to without it?

I don't know . It's nice of you to think of offering but I think it gives a power imbalance to the friendship . £189 for ever is a lot of money . A one off is different. I would expect your friend to refuse. I would.

Oh and here is another one.

Would you tell someone who is dyslexic to just learn to spell.

or someone with adhd to just learn not to have it?

Do you expect people with anorexia to just start eating?

People with depression to just buck up?

Thats what Mounjaro does for people who don't have the off button. It gives it to them and they stop eating crap. You can't force what you don't have. Sometimes you need an aid and that's what MJ is to many.

I keep my blood sugar stable and insulin down through diet. Good gut health and energy levels and enough weight training to build muscle and bone density to protect me in later life.

You may not worry about the long term effects of increased insulin, but I would. And the side effects may come after years rather than months on the stuff.

increased numbers of people with cancer (a field I’ve spent time working in) or pancreatitis doesn’t sound like much of a win to me for the NHS or anyone else.

Where do you get this off button?

Seriously, if it were that simple we wouldn’t have an obesity problem in this (and many other) countries.

To be fair, I've seen so many renaming from people who're using it : Munjaro, Muonjaro, Mango (this one on facebook), Munjairo, Montjaro. OP is close.

And what way is that eating exactly?
Because different environments would have had different diets.

and people tend of thousands of years ago, died at what would be considered young now. Those people didn’t live in the modern world.

Actually it is quite simple. You just need an off button and don't eat crap.

As she can’t even get the name right, I highly doubt this. It’s called Mounjaro.

Its lovely of you. Could she work with a nutritionist or someone to keep herself on track without it?

There are a couple of posters on here already showing that she will be judged.

Also tell us you dont know about the mechanics of obesity and genetics without telling us 🫠🙄

Please stop talking about things you clearly do not understand at anything more than a slimming world level.

Regardless of how the Op will protest, I strongly suspect this post is just free advertising for Mountjaro.

Free and doesn't require any of the bothersome small print concerning side effects or increased risk of x, y, z.

There have been a couple of similar threads in the past few days. Any company which does this has a pretty low moral compass.

That makes you even more confused — your update neither matches your OP nor your thread title! What are you actually asking?

Yes, that why all obese people are obese. They just can’t be arsed learning about healthy eating.

You should start a podcast. You could make a fortune with this amazing knowledge. You need to spread it far and wide!

Obesity is a pretty new human condition.

If you eat the way humans did for tens of thousands of years before the food manufacturers came along, guess what, the human body thrives!

Tens if not hundreds of thousands of people worldwide are discovering this. But I guess it’s easier to use expensive, off-list meds instead.